Building the Perfect Bump-Fire .22

[montezumaz]

http://www.shootingtimes.com/2012/09...nd-slide-fire/

[Maine04657]

Get results like this? http://youtu.be/26aYzJzlZNE

[aa1911]

the day I realized what bump fire was, I'm pretty sure I became a contributing stock holder to various ammo companies! it's just that fun

[JLA]

why?

[Maine04657]

Originally Posted by JLA

why?

My perfect bump fire is my m-16 lol. Why you ask because it is a blast. It is not called the happy switch for no reason.

[JLA]

Maybe were just from 2 different schools of marksmanship. I find wasting mounds of ammo just for the sake of stirring the dirt up, well, .. Full auto Airsoft guns are fun, but IMO theres alot more to be said for a well placed single round. But its just my opinion, yall have fun with it. Ammo companies love bump firers.

[hstout1143]

I've got to agree with JLA on this one. To each his own I guess.

[Big Shrek]

Fun to play with, handy to know if totally surrounded at close range...but you're likely toast anyway

To be honest, you can get more by training your trigger finger...better precision and the same speed...
just by using Link's Crossbow Adventure on the Wii...and an Eagle Catcher for strength...
http://www.awma.com/productdetail/15...e-catcher.html
Between the two you can work towards Jerry Miculek speed & accuracy!!
(mind you that'll take awhile...practice makes perfect)

[aa1911]

It's a lot of fun but it does eat ammo. Don't do it nearly as often as I used to but about every other session I'll send a mag all at once. 99% of the time it's the AK anyway.

As for effectiveness, I think full auto is almost worthless anyway unless you're breaking contact or on an ambush line. Been a soldier for 13 years and I've never needed or wanted to use full auto (other than training), semi is much more effective and realistic. Now as a SAW or 240 gunner, obviously it's full auto only, different story.

When AK ammo was $55/case and I was single, I couldn't resist a 75 round full auto burst now and again!

I grew up a target shooter and often a single shot shooter and we used to bash on the 'idiots' that went to the range and shot the place up with their 'junk, inaccurate AK' but after learning combat shooting for work, it's second nature to get as much lead downrange as the situation allows. I remember missing a deer for the first time when I was a saw gunner, I went home and was deer hunting with the muzzleloader. I discovered I had grown too used to full auto all the time, there is no second shot with BP!

So I do both and try to keep the fundamentals fresh while letting loose now and again. But like ya say, to each their own (wallet).

[Maine04657]

This si the thing with allot of old military folks who have shot fa they all think it is very inaccurate. These days with a good suppressor and other options you can get amazing accuracy on FA. That aside a standard full length m16 upper can shoot 600 yards on semi very very well. H&K are very famous for having even there belt guns shoot amazingly well on semi at distance.

I myself am a accuracy nut and love to hunt and shoot at distance here in Maine yotes are my thing and I have ar I custom built for just that in .204 Ruger and have exceptional results with it.

[JLA]

FA fire is for enemy supression so you can move troops to thier flanks. Where they use controlled burst or aimed semi auto fire to eliminate the enemy.. It has a place, and yes can be quite fun. I regularly rent the 9mm UZI at the shop.. mainly because I get a mag for free pretty much anytime I want to. Its fun for about 30 seconds but once you realize you just put 50 rounds downrange at 30 feet and have maybe 13 hits on the paper, you start to realize it isnt all that effective.

[jedwil]

Originally Posted by JLA

Maybe were just from 2 different schools of marksmanship. I find wasting mounds of ammo just for the sake of stirring the dirt up, well, .. Full auto Airsoft guns are fun, but IMO theres alot more to be said for a well placed single round. But its just my opinion, yall have fun with it. Ammo companies love bump firers.

Gotta agree here. Wish we could get Charles take on the practice..

[JLA]

Right.. That guy could figure out a way to go full auto with a bolt action

[Alpo]

Full auto is fun. And, for most people, after the first week or two of owning one, you don't do magazine dumps any more. You practice and learn to do two and three round bursts accurately.

Bump-firing, on t'other hand, is plain foolish.

[Zane71464]

With ammo the way it is as per cost...yikes!
It's fun from time to time putting lead down range fast, but I myself cant see the "productiveness" of it. I like the old saying, one shot, one kill.
With all my double actions firearms and semi auto's, I do practice double tapping.
The AR 15 is a fine example for me and putting two rounds in on target with the second round hitting right within 1/4" of the first takes time and practice, or it did for me. A coyote I had in my sights one night found out what two rounds of Hornady HP's at 150yds could do with two rounds to the chest before he'd knew what hit him.

[3/2 STA SS]

God how I miss full auto....NOTHING beats it...well except sex...

[carver]

FA, or bump fire, is not for me! I've used the Hell Fire system on a .22, and on an SKS with a 30rd mag, and of course I've shot FA M-16's. I can't even keep the bullets on target with a fast burst of semi-auto fire, much less FA. Hits count, misses don't!

[Zane71464]

I had a guy bring out an FA M16 one day long time back. It ws the first time I'd shot one FA. After two mags, my question was; How in the world do you afford the ammo for this beast? It was QUICK fun, though!
As far as to what I was aiming at and hitting (small soup can at 50yrds.,....well lets just say I dug a hole, all around the can. I did hit it, but not many times.

[Zane71464]

..I think the first two rounds actually made their mark. After that, it was everywhere, or so it felt!

[Country101]

Bumpfiring is a novelty. I might do it ocassionally, but it is not accurate, effective, or cheap. That said, it is fun to make the lead fly every once in a while, so I will do it once in a blue moon.

[ampaterry]

I kinda hate to see this become so popular that accessories are being sold to make it easier to do, because we all KNOW some are going to call it a "machine gun" and push congress to get these regulated.
And the options to make this impossible to do are not good -

1. Regulate the trigger pull - force it to be LONG and HEAVY.
2. Simply ban semi-autos.

That is a couple of BAD solutions to something that there is not really a legitimate use for in the first place.

I will not be purchasing a slide fire stock, or anything else that makes bump-fire easier to do, and would discourage the firearms community to do likewise -

[aa1911]

yup, nobody said it was accurate or effective, just fun. but at $200 or more a case, I don't even buy enough to practice with anymore much less bump fire. Been doing match grade ammo reloads for my M1A lately or laying down some cheap surplus thru my FAL.

maybe ya just do it to get the lead out (pun intended), then the novelty wears off. For me it's just lack of ammo these days due to price, if I had more I might bump fire more again.

[Rocketman1]

Originally Posted by ampaterry

I kinda hate to see this become so popular that accessories are being sold to make it easier to do, because we all KNOW some are going to call it a "machine gun" and push congress to get these regulated.
And the options to make this impossible to do are not good -

1. Regulate the trigger pull - force it to be LONG and HEAVY.
2. Simply ban semi-autos.

That is a couple of BAD solutions to something that there is not really a legitimate use for in the first place.

I will not be purchasing a slide fire stock, or anything else that makes bump-fire easier to do, and would discourage the firearms community to do likewise -

I was thinking on the same terms. Just one more reason for the anti-gun folks to put pressure on polititions for more gun regulations.

[Maine04657]

Originally Posted by ampaterry

I kinda hate to see this become so popular that accessories are being sold to make it easier to do, because we all KNOW some are going to call it a "machine gun" and push congress to get these regulated.

The ATF says it is NOT a mg. Of course like the shoelace and the Adkins accelerator they can and do change there mind.

Originally Posted by ampaterry

That is a couple of BAD solutions to something that there is not really a legitimate use for in the first place.

Wholly crap really? What is legitimate use? I have had this conversation before but in the past it was with antis saying I do not NEED a semi auto rifle. Or there is no legitimate purpose for a mag that holds more then ten rounds. The second says we have the right to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS no stipulations given. There does not need to be a use, need or purpose!

[JLA]

Nobody said you couldnt bump fire your guns. Some of us just dont see the purpose or the need to and have good reasons behind it. So bump fire away.