Bird Shot - The Firearms Forum

grumpyt55 · 09-25-2012, 05:23 PM

Hi All,
I have a stray cat problem, but wife wont let me kill them. I want to try bird shot in my Hi standard Double Nine. Your Thoughts please.

Grumpy

hunter29180 · 09-25-2012, 05:56 PM

bird shot will either kill or cripple cats...toss a few lit firecrackers at them instead...

aa1911 · 09-25-2012, 05:59 PM

some .22 shot shells maybe, they have #12 in 'em, at any distance, it will just sting 'em a bit and send them on their way.

Country101 · 09-25-2012, 06:03 PM

take you a 410 if you have it and remove the shot. Put rock salt in it's place and shoot from a distance. Shouldnt do much damage at all, but if it breaks the skin, it'll sting. They wont want it twice.

Preferably call animal control, cause this method could get you in trouble.

jedwil · 09-25-2012, 06:04 PM

I don't think .22 shotshells would be harmful past 8 feet or so unless you hit an eye.

aa1911 · 09-25-2012, 06:12 PM

or how bouts some of those wazzoo shotgun rounds, dragon's breath and such? shoot sparks and flames at 'em. course your neighbors might not appreciate that...

CCHolderinMaine · 09-25-2012, 06:30 PM

A super-soaker squirt gun with a water/10% vinegar solution in it will drive cats away in a hurry. Stray cats will come back, you'll have to hit them a few times. If you stick with it a short time, they will move on.

todd51 · 09-25-2012, 06:32 PM

Years ago an injured stray cat had taken refuge in a spare dog house on my dad's property. He decided to put the cat out of it's misery and use the .22lr shot shell out of his Colt Scout Buntline. His thinking was he didn't want a 40gr. bullet to penetrate the cat and damage the dog house

He made a head shot from about two feet. All it did was piss off the cat which took off at a high rate of speed

. The cat was later picked up, still alive, by animal control (that's another story). I don't think those shot shells are worth much good for any thing.

AAofLot19 · 09-25-2012, 06:48 PM

Bird shot will definitely kill a cat. I killed a coon that was in a pole building of mine and used those because I didn't want to penetrate the exterior wall. Though it did take around 10 shots to kill it at 20 ft or so.

dad2thebone · 09-25-2012, 06:52 PM

I heard , only heard ahem that the mix of vinigar works like a champ. it even works on small dogs so i heard . give it a shot and watch em run again i only heard.

aa1911 · 09-25-2012, 07:05 PM

and you guys do know that a couple of Tylenols (1000mg or two extra strengths) equals dead kitty right?

but ya didn't hear that from me...

some acetomenophin tuna treats will take care of 'em for good.

Maine04657 · 09-25-2012, 10:04 PM

Use 12 gauge buck shot and tell your wife it ran like hell.

mogunner · 09-25-2012, 11:27 PM

I had a problem with stray cats in the front yard, bought some cheap household "orange" cleaner and sprayed the outside edges of the yard, have to redo it after rains but it's like a buck a gallon at the dollar store, works well for me. For the back yard I have six dogs, for some reason cats don't visit it often...

grumpyt55 · 09-26-2012, 03:18 AM

Thanks for all the info gentlemen.

mr.t7024 · 09-26-2012, 06:35 AM

See what the pattern is at 10,15,20,25 30 feet. Then see how it penetrates at the same distance, That is the reason I stopped using that round.

Cliff

oldfartrr · 09-30-2012, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpyt55

Hi All,
I have a stray cat problem, but wife wont let me kill them. I want to try bird shot in my Hi standard Double Nine. Your Thoughts please.

Grumpy

had that problem once,, but fixed it quick,, and still single again ?? OH and no cat problems anymore either
no one to tell me i cant (buy guns,, buy motorcycles, fun cars,,AND I NOW HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK unless i spend it first

JLA · 09-30-2012, 12:25 PM

Just leave em be, let em start tearing the trash and spraying everything and your wife will change her mind if you leave the messes for her to tend to. My wife had the same issue with the stray dogs until one day while she was cleaning up a ripped trash bag she watched a stray mutt attack one of the neighbor kids over his sandwich. She came insiode after the .22 herself.

aa1911 · 09-30-2012, 12:26 PM

so whuttya know, while away on vacation last week, a stray showed up here! little siamese kitty, about half grown. Thinkin' my mother in law will take it home; as much as I hate cats, I wouldn't kill this one. guess I got a soft spot after all....

Big Shrek · 09-30-2012, 03:20 PM

birdshot/ratshot is just barely sufficient to do the job INSIDE A BARN...outdoors, at over 7-8 paces, forget it..

The Intent was so that farmers could clear their barns/outhouses/sheds of nuisance critters...
without going thru the walls/roof and causing leaks...

But for crawling up in an attic and blasting out the squirrels/other critters, PERFECT!!
Close enough range that it works!!

But in that vein...I prefer .22WMR shotshells to .22lr shotshells...way more effective, but still without major penetration thru plywood.

aa1911 · 09-30-2012, 03:21 PM

so this showed up at our house while we were away in Hawaii:

got soft and we decided to feed it, cripes....

the dog keeps molesting him, figured he'd just kill it!

we'll send him off with mother in law next week, hee hee hee...

09-25-2012, 05:56 PM	#2
hunter29180 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: in a motorhome where ever we park! Contributor Posts: 1,627	Re: Bird Shot bird shot will either kill or cripple cats...toss a few lit firecrackers at them instead... __________________ As I get Older, I have come to understand why our Founding Fathers chose our countrys motto to be "IN GOD WE TRUST", somehow they knew in the future WE would come to the point that WE COULD NO LONGER TRUST THE ONES WHO RUN IT!

09-25-2012, 05:59 PM	#3
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,113	Re: Bird Shot some .22 shot shells maybe, they have #12 in 'em, at any distance, it will just sting 'em a bit and send them on their way. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

09-25-2012, 06:03 PM	#4
Country101 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dardanelle, AR Contributor Posts: 2,028	Re: Bird Shot take you a 410 if you have it and remove the shot. Put rock salt in it's place and shoot from a distance. Shouldnt do much damage at all, but if it breaks the skin, it'll sting. They wont want it twice. Preferably call animal control, cause this method could get you in trouble. __________________ Gainfully employed= shooting somebody elses bullets and getting paid for it Country101

09-25-2012, 06:04 PM	#5
jedwil Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country Contributor Posts: 1,921	Re: Bird Shot I don't think .22 shotshells would be harmful past 8 feet or so unless you hit an eye. __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." -- John F. Kennedy

09-25-2012, 06:12 PM	#6
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,113	Re: Bird Shot or how bouts some of those wazzoo shotgun rounds, dragon's breath and such? shoot sparks and flames at 'em. course your neighbors might not appreciate that... __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

09-25-2012, 05:23 PM	#1
grumpyt55 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 5	Bird Shot Hi All, I have a stray cat problem, but wife wont let me kill them. I want to try bird shot in my Hi standard Double Nine. Your Thoughts please. Grumpy -->

09-25-2012, 06:30 PM	#7
CCHolderinMaine Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Steep Falls, Maine Contributor Posts: 633	Re: Bird Shot A super-soaker squirt gun with a water/10% vinegar solution in it will drive cats away in a hurry. Stray cats will come back, you'll have to hit them a few times. If you stick with it a short time, they will move on.

09-25-2012, 06:32 PM	#8
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,572	Re: Bird Shot Years ago an injured stray cat had taken refuge in a spare dog house on my dad's property. He decided to put the cat out of it's misery and use the .22lr shot shell out of his Colt Scout Buntline. His thinking was he didn't want a 40gr. bullet to penetrate the cat and damage the dog house He made a head shot from about two feet. All it did was piss off the cat which took off at a high rate of speed. The cat was later picked up, still alive, by animal control (that's another story). I don't think those shot shells are worth much good for any thing. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member

09-25-2012, 06:48 PM	#9
AAofLot19 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 61	Re: Bird Shot Bird shot will definitely kill a cat. I killed a coon that was in a pole building of mine and used those because I didn't want to penetrate the exterior wall. Though it did take around 10 shots to kill it at 20 ft or so. __________________ I think there is only one quality worse than hardness of heart and that is softness of head. Theodore Roosevelt

09-25-2012, 06:52 PM	#10
dad2thebone Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,357	Re: Bird Shot I heard , only heard ahem that the mix of vinigar works like a champ. it even works on small dogs so i heard . give it a shot and watch em run again i only heard. __________________ 9-11-01 we will never forget.And then we have dec 7 now it's Nov 6th all sad days for our country. And dont whizz on my leg then tell me it's raining.

09-25-2012, 07:05 PM	#11
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,113	Re: Bird Shot and you guys do know that a couple of Tylenols (1000mg or two extra strengths) equals dead kitty right? but ya didn't hear that from me... some acetomenophin tuna treats will take care of 'em for good. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

09-25-2012, 10:04 PM	#12
Maine04657 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 329	Re: Bird Shot Use 12 gauge buck shot and tell your wife it ran like hell.

09-25-2012, 11:27 PM	#13
mogunner Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Eastern Missouri Posts: 1,026	Re: Bird Shot I had a problem with stray cats in the front yard, bought some cheap household "orange" cleaner and sprayed the outside edges of the yard, have to redo it after rains but it's like a buck a gallon at the dollar store, works well for me. For the back yard I have six dogs, for some reason cats don't visit it often...

09-26-2012, 03:18 AM	#14
grumpyt55 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 5	Re: Bird Shot Thanks for all the info gentlemen.

09-26-2012, 06:35 AM	#15
mr.t7024 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Near a brook & pond in Ma Posts: 734	Re: Bird Shot See what the pattern is at 10,15,20,25 30 feet. Then see how it penetrates at the same distance, That is the reason I stopped using that round. Cliff

09-30-2012, 12:25 PM	#17
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: Bird Shot Just leave em be, let em start tearing the trash and spraying everything and your wife will change her mind if you leave the messes for her to tend to. My wife had the same issue with the stray dogs until one day while she was cleaning up a ripped trash bag she watched a stray mutt attack one of the neighbor kids over his sandwich. She came insiode after the .22 herself. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

09-30-2012, 12:26 PM	#18
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,113	Re: Bird Shot so whuttya know, while away on vacation last week, a stray showed up here! little siamese kitty, about half grown. Thinkin' my mother in law will take it home; as much as I hate cats, I wouldn't kill this one. guess I got a soft spot after all.... __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

09-30-2012, 03:20 PM	#19
Big Shrek Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NorthWest Florida Posts: 923	Re: Bird Shot birdshot/ratshot is just barely sufficient to do the job INSIDE A BARN...outdoors, at over 7-8 paces, forget it.. The Intent was so that farmers could clear their barns/outhouses/sheds of nuisance critters... without going thru the walls/roof and causing leaks... But for crawling up in an attic and blasting out the squirrels/other critters, PERFECT!! Close enough range that it works!! But in that vein...I prefer .22WMR shotshells to .22lr shotshells...way more effective, but still without major penetration thru plywood. __________________ Marlin Specialist Calico Specialist A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.

09-30-2012, 03:21 PM	#20
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,113	Re: Bird Shot so this showed up at our house while we were away in Hawaii: got soft and we decided to feed it, cripes.... the dog keeps molesting him, figured he'd just kill it! we'll send him off with mother in law next week, hee hee hee... __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."