Looking into a new rifle, soon. - The Firearms Forum

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 09-30-2012, 09:37 PM

Sometime between now and my birthday, next year (April). I'm aiming for American (yay, right?) Not costing to much money (I try to stay around $500, or less), in .308Win, not fluted (complicated to explain, but lets just say I don't want it to be weaker than my Mosin M38...that and the fact it looks fugly) and has iron sights with provisions to install weaver mounts. Stock wise, it doesn't matter, synthetic or wood is fine. (I lug around a 7.5lb rifle, at the range. Weight is not a problem.)

I was looking at a Mossberg ATR in .308, but there site indicated that they only do fluted barrels in .308 with weaver mounts in either walnut or black synthetic stocks. So, any suggestions would be helpful.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, it has to be bolt action.

old semperfi · 09-30-2012, 09:53 PM

to me the savage is a very good choice,i own three in the 110 tactical class.i have had no problems at all.the new triggers are adjustable and savage makes one of the best barrels in the industry.i have been involved in the forum for quite a while now and i dont think ive seen one problem with the later model savage. old semperfi

CampingJosh · 09-30-2012, 10:07 PM

Savage 110 or Remington 700. Savage really probably has the edge currently, but I'm a Remington fan.

CHW2021 · 10-01-2012, 08:10 AM

http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...ension-review/

American made, accurate, and "convertable" not run of the mill yet. Otherwise Savage.

jack404 · 10-01-2012, 08:24 AM

Ishapore Lee Enfield in 308 , get a T model and it'll have the good chrome bore then do what you want to it it'll outshoot anyone who holds it and will cost a fortune in ammo to wear out

ozo · 10-01-2012, 08:29 AM

Savage 110

myfriendis410 · 10-01-2012, 09:25 AM

The new Weatherby Vanguard. I've never seen one that would not shoot lights out.

gun runner · 10-01-2012, 09:35 AM

Savage .308

www.savagearms.com

carver · 10-01-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jack404

Ishapore Lee Enfield in 308 , get a T model and it'll have the good chrome bore then do what you want to it it'll outshoot anyone who holds it and will cost a fortune in ammo to wear out

I agree with Jack on this one. OP stipulated iron sights, and under $500.

soundguy · 10-01-2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CampingJosh

Savage 110 or Remington 700. Savage really probably has the edge currently, but I'm a Remington fan.

i like both.

if the op is looking for super cheap.. them new walmart black stocked guns with scopes are less than ? 300$

carver · 10-01-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by soundguy

i like both.

if the op is looking for super cheap.. them new walmart black stocked guns with scopes are less than ? 300$

OP wants iron sights, and will spend no more than $500.

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 10-01-2012, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by carver

OP wants iron sights, and will spend no more than $500.

And the ability to install Weaver mounts for a scope, if I so want one.

Thanks for all the feedback, guys. I'll let you guys know what I come up with.

targetacqmgt · 10-01-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jack404

Ishapore Lee Enfield in 308 , get a T model and it'll have the good chrome bore then do what you want to it it'll outshoot anyone who holds it and will cost a fortune in ammo to wear out

I have seen one or two on the some trading sites.

Ledslnger · 10-13-2012, 12:44 AM

Someone mentioned Savage and they are nice. I have a friend that owns a gunstore and he recommends the new Ruger American. I bet you could grab it in .308, 30-06, or .270. Any of those 3 would compete with a Nagant. Ruger makes a good product. I don't have an American yet, have the old M77s though and they ROCK!!!
I wouldn't recommend any NEW Remingtons. Their quality is total garbage. They are living on their name alone. They have crap customer service too, and normally won't even respond to inquiries anymore. They are too big for their britches. I hope Ruger and Savage knock off a big chunk of their market share because they deserve it. Remington's ammunition is going to crap too. Poor quality compared to Federal and other manufacturers. Pretty easy to get a 15% failure to fire rate from bulk Remington .22 shells. I had one Federal that I had to double tap in about 20 bricks. That isn't even 1% failure.
One guy told me his new 770 in .300 Win Mag I believe had to be opened by beating the bolt with a small 2x4 after each shot. That is quality! That is after they worked on it....came back as it left. He didn't think they even looked at it.

Albtraum · 10-13-2012, 03:34 AM

I was going to suggest this, but MSRP $999
http://www.ruger.com/products/gunsit...fle/index.html

It's really hard to find models with iron sights, most manufacturer's seem to leave them off nowadays. Especially the budget rifles (~$300) Savage Axis, Mossberg ATR, Marlin X7, Weatherby Vanguard, etc. But if you're looking at used guns, it should be easier to find one under $500.

Ledslnger · 10-13-2012, 10:42 PM

I like Rugers, but that Scout is pretty spendy IMO. I would much rather have the American for the $$$. It has a lot of nice features for the $$$. Their new trigger is pretty awesome from what I have heard. Haven't shot one yet.

zkovach · 10-14-2012, 07:57 AM

I'd definatley would throw howa into the mix, my bull barrel howa is the most accurate gun I own!!

09-30-2012, 09:37 PM	#1
Mosin_Nagant_Fan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,832	Looking into a new rifle, soon. Sometime between now and my birthday, next year (April). I'm aiming for American (yay, right?) Not costing to much money (I try to stay around $500, or less), in .308Win, not fluted (complicated to explain, but lets just say I don't want it to be weaker than my Mosin M38...that and the fact it looks fugly) and has iron sights with provisions to install weaver mounts. Stock wise, it doesn't matter, synthetic or wood is fine. (I lug around a 7.5lb rifle, at the range. Weight is not a problem.) I was looking at a Mossberg ATR in .308, but there site indicated that they only do fluted barrels in .308 with weaver mounts in either walnut or black synthetic stocks. So, any suggestions would be helpful. EDIT: Forgot to mention, it has to be bolt action. __________________ Long Gun Collection: M38 Mosin-Nagant Carbine Russian 1950 SKS Winchester 1300 20Ga Western Field Single-Shot 16Ga Sears Ranger .22S-L-LR Bolt-Action Rifle Marlin 795 Semi-Auto (Brother's) Handgun Collection: Springfield Armory XD9 Service --> Last edited by Mosin_Nagant_Fan; 10-01-2012 at 08:03 AM..

09-30-2012, 09:53 PM	#2
old semperfi Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: i live in southern indiana,old country boy at heart Posts: 1,506	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. to me the savage is a very good choice,i own three in the 110 tactical class.i have had no problems at all.the new triggers are adjustable and savage makes one of the best barrels in the industry.i have been involved in the forum for quite a while now and i dont think ive seen one problem with the later model savage. old semperfi

09-30-2012, 10:07 PM	#3
CampingJosh TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 4,787	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. Savage 110 or Remington 700. Savage really probably has the edge currently, but I'm a Remington fan. __________________ Nothing posted on TheFirearmsForum.com constitutes legal, accounting, gunsmithing, or other professional advice. Readers are encouraged to consult with qualified professionals for real advice. Your life is lived at your own risk. Don't blame me for the dumb things you do.

10-01-2012, 08:10 AM	#4
CHW2021 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 467	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...ension-review/ American made, accurate, and "convertable" not run of the mill yet. Otherwise Savage.

10-01-2012, 08:24 AM	#5
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. Ishapore Lee Enfield in 308 , get a T model and it'll have the good chrome bore then do what you want to it it'll outshoot anyone who holds it and will cost a fortune in ammo to wear out

10-01-2012, 08:29 AM	#6
ozo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Nashville TN Posts: 2,770	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. Savage 110 __________________ http://www.nranews.com/#/nranews, "ozo. you're off your rocker sir." -johnlives4christ http://www.prisonplanet.com/ -America,Bless GOD-

10-01-2012, 09:25 AM	#7
myfriendis410 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Lompoc California Posts: 542	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. The new Weatherby Vanguard. I've never seen one that would not shoot lights out. __________________ Life's too short to shoot an ugly gun.....

10-01-2012, 09:35 AM	#8
gun runner Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Texas Contributor Posts: 1,871	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. Savage .308 www.savagearms.com

10-13-2012, 12:44 AM	#14
Ledslnger V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: N Central, IA Posts: 415	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. Someone mentioned Savage and they are nice. I have a friend that owns a gunstore and he recommends the new Ruger American. I bet you could grab it in .308, 30-06, or .270. Any of those 3 would compete with a Nagant. Ruger makes a good product. I don't have an American yet, have the old M77s though and they ROCK!!! I wouldn't recommend any NEW Remingtons. Their quality is total garbage. They are living on their name alone. They have crap customer service too, and normally won't even respond to inquiries anymore. They are too big for their britches. I hope Ruger and Savage knock off a big chunk of their market share because they deserve it. Remington's ammunition is going to crap too. Poor quality compared to Federal and other manufacturers. Pretty easy to get a 15% failure to fire rate from bulk Remington .22 shells. I had one Federal that I had to double tap in about 20 bricks. That isn't even 1% failure. One guy told me his new 770 in .300 Win Mag I believe had to be opened by beating the bolt with a small 2x4 after each shot. That is quality! That is after they worked on it....came back as it left. He didn't think they even looked at it.

10-13-2012, 03:34 AM	#15
Albtraum Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 635	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. I was going to suggest this, but MSRP $999 http://www.ruger.com/products/gunsit...fle/index.html It's really hard to find models with iron sights, most manufacturer's seem to leave them off nowadays. Especially the budget rifles (~$300) Savage Axis, Mossberg ATR, Marlin X7, Weatherby Vanguard, etc. But if you're looking at used guns, it should be easier to find one under $500. Last edited by Albtraum; 10-14-2012 at 12:01 PM..

10-13-2012, 10:42 PM	#16
Ledslnger V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: N Central, IA Posts: 415	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. I like Rugers, but that Scout is pretty spendy IMO. I would much rather have the American for the $$$. It has a lot of nice features for the $$$. Their new trigger is pretty awesome from what I have heard. Haven't shot one yet.

10-14-2012, 07:57 AM	#17
zkovach Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,005	Re: Looking into a new rifle, soon. I'd definatley would throw howa into the mix, my bull barrel howa is the most accurate gun I own!! __________________ Liberalism: Poverty for ALL!!