ballpark value on german dagger

hunter29180 · 12-14-2012, 10:07 PM

this is what I believe to be a authenic German SS dagger. has "ALLES FUR DEUTCHLAND" etched one one side and makers mark of Thomas Wielputz on other. handle and logos seem right. the leather hanger is missing and scabbard has 2 dents but knife slides in properly. handle is in good condition with 2 chips near blade guard. there is a letter "P" on guard that I havent been able to authinicate.

Reason I am asking for Ballpark value is this has been offered to me at what I feel is a very good price. picture below is from this site..http://www.quanonline.com/military/m...sa_dagger.html if below is example of excellent than the one offered would be fair.

stede · 12-15-2012, 02:51 PM

Hunter, you mention an SS dagger but the illustration is an SA dagger (FAR more common than SS).
The P marking designates Pommern (Pomerania); the SA were organized by districts.
An SA dagger in the condition you describe really shouldn't fetch more than $200 but I might be dated on prices. Still, the SA dagger is quite common and has one of the lowest collector values unless in exceptional condition

hunter29180 · 12-18-2012, 02:15 PM

stede, you are correct it Is a SA not a SS. I went ahead and invested in this dagger at about 1/2 of what you estimated value at...I did finally find one same makers mark but missing scabbard..it sold for 350..mainly because the maker was a small company and seems to be quite rare but quality to compare with the other larger makers.

stede · 12-21-2012, 07:24 PM

Hi Hunter- good deal for $100. PM me with pics if you feel like it; I'm a dagger man from way back and like to see 'em!

12-14-2012, 10:07 PM	#1
hunter29180 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: in a motorhome where ever we park! Contributor Posts: 1,625	ballpark value on german dagger this is what I believe to be a authenic German SS dagger. has "ALLES FUR DEUTCHLAND" etched one one side and makers mark of Thomas Wielputz on other. handle and logos seem right. the leather hanger is missing and scabbard has 2 dents but knife slides in properly. handle is in good condition with 2 chips near blade guard. there is a letter "P" on guard that I havent been able to authinicate. Reason I am asking for Ballpark value is this has been offered to me at what I feel is a very good price. picture below is from this site..http://www.quanonline.com/military/m...sa_dagger.html if below is example of excellent than the one offered would be fair. Attached Images __________________ As I get Older, I have come to understand why our Founding Fathers chose our countrys motto to be "IN GOD WE TRUST", somehow they knew in the future WE would come to the point that WE COULD NO LONGER TRUST THE ONES WHO RUN IT! --> Last edited by hunter29180; 12-14-2012 at 10:09 PM..

12-15-2012, 02:51 PM	#2
stede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 92	Re: ballpark value on german dagger Hunter, you mention an SS dagger but the illustration is an SA dagger (FAR more common than SS). The P marking designates Pommern (Pomerania); the SA were organized by districts. An SA dagger in the condition you describe really shouldn't fetch more than $200 but I might be dated on prices. Still, the SA dagger is quite common and has one of the lowest collector values unless in exceptional condition

12-18-2012, 02:15 PM	#3
hunter29180 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: in a motorhome where ever we park! Contributor Posts: 1,625	Re: ballpark value on german dagger stede, you are correct it Is a SA not a SS. I went ahead and invested in this dagger at about 1/2 of what you estimated value at...I did finally find one same makers mark but missing scabbard..it sold for 350..mainly because the maker was a small company and seems to be quite rare but quality to compare with the other larger makers. __________________ As I get Older, I have come to understand why our Founding Fathers chose our countrys motto to be "IN GOD WE TRUST", somehow they knew in the future WE would come to the point that WE COULD NO LONGER TRUST THE ONES WHO RUN IT!

12-21-2012, 07:24 PM	#4
stede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 92	Re: ballpark value on german dagger Hi Hunter- good deal for $100. PM me with pics if you feel like it; I'm a dagger man from way back and like to see 'em!