Rifle separator in safe - what did you use - The Firearms Forum

nynomad · 10-15-2012, 08:51 AM

Just wondering if anyone found an easy to get (cheap) way to separate your rifles in a safe. Standing the guns upright. Long story but this safe is just a box type - not gun specific.

Is wood with slots ok to use? I guess I would oil the wood where it would touch the barrels? Or is there something else inexpensive that I could get that just bolts right in?

gdmoody · 10-15-2012, 09:42 AM

My stack-on elite safe came with some plastic separators/holders that match up to pre-drilled holes in the safe's walls.

glens67 · 10-15-2012, 09:47 AM

I have no room for separators...

nynomad · 10-15-2012, 09:50 AM

Yea right now they are just "piled" in there but they are in their cases to protect them - and supposedly storing in cases is not good.

I'll have to check on the stack on ones.

time2shoot · 10-15-2012, 10:17 AM

take them out of the cases so any moisture can evaperate. wood is ok just use some cloth on the wood.
Cases are for keeping them from geting damaged in transport. When you store them in cases moisture gets traped in side. which makes them, RUST

soundguy · 10-15-2012, 10:19 AM

foam tube/pipe insulator can be used to kep metal off metal and wood off metal.. also those foam 'float' tubes and things at walmart for 1$ can be cut an sculpted with a razor knife to do the same.

also.. i take old pairs of bluejeans ( or 25 cent pair I buy at yardsale ) and then cut the legs out and use them as 'sleeves' for my guns.. slip one over.. rubber band it.. might have some bbl sticking up.. but you can now lean it against other rifles and bolt handles don't scratch up other rifles.. etc.. etc.. or leave it at the bbl and lean it over and no cronw of bbl toucing other / safe.. etc..

nynomad · 10-15-2012, 10:24 AM

Soundguy - those are some good ideas!

soundguy · 10-15-2012, 10:29 AM

i'm cheap and money is hard to come by so i get creative!

time2shoot · 10-15-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by soundguy

foam tube/pipe insulator can be used to kep metal off metal and wood off metal.. also those foam 'float' tubes and things at walmart for 1$ can be cut an sculpted with a razor knife to do the same.

also.. i take old pairs of bluejeans ( or 25 cent pair I buy at yardsale ) and then cut the legs out and use them as 'sleeves' for my guns.. slip one over.. rubber band it.. might have some bbl sticking up.. but you can now lean it against other rifles and bolt handles don't scratch up other rifles.. etc.. etc.. or leave it at the bbl and lean it over and no cronw of bbl toucing other / safe.. etc..

fill thoughs cut of jean leggs with sand. they work awsome at the range.

Zhurh · 10-15-2012, 10:53 AM

I need a new bigger safe; just never have the bucks and need more guns and supplies; those dang dems.

aa1911 · 10-15-2012, 11:30 AM

Mine came with shelves and separators, guess you guys got ripped off!

before I had the safe, I had them locked in a couple of wall lockers, I used a couple pieces of 2x4 lumber that I had put dowels in for separators.

drilled 1" holes with a spade bit and got some dowel rod from home depot, cut them into about 5" lenghts and glued them in, works fine.

soundguy · 10-15-2012, 12:56 PM

one of the posters is using just a plain standing 'executive' style safe.. not a gun safe i think.. that's why the ques of seperators.

white wood 2x4 and a jigsaw and dowel as you mention would make a great seperator too though.

could use rtv to glue it in place inside the safe and stack the guns standing.. removal is easy to break the rtv bond when needed, and peel off with no damage to t he safe

nynomad · 10-15-2012, 01:03 PM

The dowel method sounds good. Is it ok to have the barrel rest against the wood or should I oil the wood or cover it with cloth? Oil the cloth?

soundguy · 10-15-2012, 01:18 PM

i like silicone impregnated cloth.. easy to get cans of spray silicone.

not real oily.. displaces water.. etc.

wood, IMHO, if unfinished, can breathe and hold water.. if the wood is sealed.. probably fine.. ( old and hard or hardwood is less apt to hold moisture than soft woods like pine, fir and spruce ).. oiled and greased and to some extent stained woods act like treated woods.. ( all my opinions on what I have seen building stuff mind you.. I'm not a wood-ologist nor do i play one on tv.. and i didn't sleep at a HI last night..

so YMMV )

JUNKKING · 10-15-2012, 01:30 PM

Urethane pipe insulation will sweat bad idea. I use old tee shirts that I spray with silicone spray.

aa1911 · 10-15-2012, 01:35 PM

wood's not gonna hurt your gun barrel; you should be using both dessicant/moisture absorbers as well as a heat wand anyway, should take care of any issue there.

If you have a router or jigsaw, you could cut a bunch of U shape notches in a piece of wood and staple carpet along the contact/inner portion similar to original gun safe separators.

soundguy · 10-15-2012, 01:38 PM

i did similar on a stand I made. i use a 1x4 and jigsawed it, then glued felt strips tot he cut edges.

carpet probably chaper!

soundguy · 10-15-2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JUNKKING

Urethane pipe insulation will sweat bad idea. I use old tee shirts that I spray with silicone spray.

a dessicant or moisture wand or other water eater should take care of that in the safe..

nynomad · 10-15-2012, 01:41 PM

Ok thanks for all your ideas. I've now got a plan.... A desicant was always in my plan. Was just worried about where the barrel touched. Looks like silicone spray on cloth is the winner.

25yretcoastie · 10-15-2012, 04:41 PM

I took a kiln dry 2X4 centered a line on it and for spacing drilled my holes with a hole saw. Then split it, glue felt on it and installed with JB weld. Lots of rest now, next time I might try the cut off jeans idea from soundguy

gvw3 · 10-15-2012, 06:34 PM

Walmart has the guns sock's up here for about $4 each. Don't leave guns in a case. They will rust. I know I did it.

aa1911 · 10-15-2012, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 25yretcoastie

I took a kiln dry 2X4 centered a line on it and for spacing drilled my holes with a hole saw. Then split it, glue felt on it and installed with JB weld. Lots of rest now, next time I might try the cut off jeans idea from soundguy

I like that idea, pretty easy to do and seems like would work very well.

25yretcoastie · 10-15-2012, 06:43 PM

It does and not a ton of money

10-15-2012, 08:51 AM	#1
nynomad V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 377	Rifle separator in safe - what did you use Just wondering if anyone found an easy to get (cheap) way to separate your rifles in a safe. Standing the guns upright. Long story but this safe is just a box type - not gun specific. Is wood with slots ok to use? I guess I would oil the wood where it would touch the barrels? Or is there something else inexpensive that I could get that just bolts right in? -->

10-15-2012, 09:42 AM	#2
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,345	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use My stack-on elite safe came with some plastic separators/holders that match up to pre-drilled holes in the safe's walls. __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

10-15-2012, 09:47 AM	#3
glens67 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Middleton, ID Contributor Posts: 951	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use I have no room for separators... __________________ The fish is rotting from the head down—all is not well at the top of the political hierarchy. "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein There is nothing more dangerous than a fanatic moron. Many problems we face today are there because people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living. Molon Labe μολὼν λαβέ A Deo victoria Glen

10-15-2012, 09:50 AM	#4
nynomad V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 377	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use Yea right now they are just "piled" in there but they are in their cases to protect them - and supposedly storing in cases is not good. I'll have to check on the stack on ones.

10-15-2012, 10:17 AM	#5
time2shoot Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brandon SD Contributor Posts: 2,600	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use take them out of the cases so any moisture can evaperate. wood is ok just use some cloth on the wood. Cases are for keeping them from geting damaged in transport. When you store them in cases moisture gets traped in side. which makes them, RUST __________________ I AM A VETERAN MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE!

10-15-2012, 10:19 AM	#6
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,453	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use foam tube/pipe insulator can be used to kep metal off metal and wood off metal.. also those foam 'float' tubes and things at walmart for 1$ can be cut an sculpted with a razor knife to do the same. also.. i take old pairs of bluejeans ( or 25 cent pair I buy at yardsale ) and then cut the legs out and use them as 'sleeves' for my guns.. slip one over.. rubber band it.. might have some bbl sticking up.. but you can now lean it against other rifles and bolt handles don't scratch up other rifles.. etc.. etc.. or leave it at the bbl and lean it over and no cronw of bbl toucing other / safe.. etc..

10-15-2012, 10:24 AM	#7
nynomad V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 377	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use Soundguy - those are some good ideas!

10-15-2012, 10:29 AM	#8
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,453	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use i'm cheap and money is hard to come by so i get creative!

10-15-2012, 10:53 AM	#10
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,820	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use I need a new bigger safe; just never have the bucks and need more guns and supplies; those dang dems.

10-15-2012, 11:30 AM	#11
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,115	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use Mine came with shelves and separators, guess you guys got ripped off! before I had the safe, I had them locked in a couple of wall lockers, I used a couple pieces of 2x4 lumber that I had put dowels in for separators. drilled 1" holes with a spade bit and got some dowel rod from home depot, cut them into about 5" lenghts and glued them in, works fine. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-15-2012, 12:56 PM	#12
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,453	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use one of the posters is using just a plain standing 'executive' style safe.. not a gun safe i think.. that's why the ques of seperators. white wood 2x4 and a jigsaw and dowel as you mention would make a great seperator too though. could use rtv to glue it in place inside the safe and stack the guns standing.. removal is easy to break the rtv bond when needed, and peel off with no damage to t he safe

10-15-2012, 01:03 PM	#13
nynomad V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 377	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use The dowel method sounds good. Is it ok to have the barrel rest against the wood or should I oil the wood or cover it with cloth? Oil the cloth?

10-15-2012, 01:18 PM	#14
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,453	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use i like silicone impregnated cloth.. easy to get cans of spray silicone. not real oily.. displaces water.. etc. wood, IMHO, if unfinished, can breathe and hold water.. if the wood is sealed.. probably fine.. ( old and hard or hardwood is less apt to hold moisture than soft woods like pine, fir and spruce ).. oiled and greased and to some extent stained woods act like treated woods.. ( all my opinions on what I have seen building stuff mind you.. I'm not a wood-ologist nor do i play one on tv.. and i didn't sleep at a HI last night.. so YMMV )

10-15-2012, 01:30 PM	#15
JUNKKING Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just East of Pittsburgh PA Contributor Posts: 1,783	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use Urethane pipe insulation will sweat bad idea. I use old tee shirts that I spray with silicone spray. __________________ Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn every now and again!

10-15-2012, 01:35 PM	#16
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,115	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use wood's not gonna hurt your gun barrel; you should be using both dessicant/moisture absorbers as well as a heat wand anyway, should take care of any issue there. If you have a router or jigsaw, you could cut a bunch of U shape notches in a piece of wood and staple carpet along the contact/inner portion similar to original gun safe separators. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-15-2012, 01:38 PM	#17
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,453	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use i did similar on a stand I made. i use a 1x4 and jigsawed it, then glued felt strips tot he cut edges. carpet probably chaper!

10-15-2012, 01:41 PM	#19
nynomad V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 377	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use Ok thanks for all your ideas. I've now got a plan.... A desicant was always in my plan. Was just worried about where the barrel touched. Looks like silicone spray on cloth is the winner.

10-15-2012, 04:41 PM	#20
25yretcoastie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fort Pierce Fl Posts: 556	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use I took a kiln dry 2X4 centered a line on it and for spacing drilled my holes with a hole saw. Then split it, glue felt on it and installed with JB weld. Lots of rest now, next time I might try the cut off jeans idea from soundguy

10-15-2012, 06:34 PM	#21
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,301	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use Walmart has the guns sock's up here for about $4 each. Don't leave guns in a case. They will rust. I know I did it. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

10-15-2012, 06:43 PM	#23
25yretcoastie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fort Pierce Fl Posts: 556	Re: Rifle separator in safe - what did you use It does and not a ton of money