Range Report: 240 Grain Buffalo Bore 44 Magnum +P Deer Grenades - The Firearms Forum

mesinge2 · 10-15-2012, 10:50 AM

I shot all of them with my 629 Talo and have no more

The shooting was done at 14 yards. The first video is me shooting in double Action. The second video is a guy that wanted to try the "loud booming gun"; his words. He shot in single action and upon getting screen shots I realized that he almost dropped the gun a few times!

The Deer Grenades have almost no flash out of the cylinder gap displayed by the 300 grain Nosler DoubleTap loads I tested but they do also make that ring of fire like the DoubleTap loads.

VIDEO: .44 Mag S&W 629-6 Deluxe Talo Edition

VIDEO: .44 Mag S&W 629-6 Deluxe Talo Edition Muzzle Flash

Rugermanws · 10-15-2012, 12:12 PM

I shoot in daylight mostly and you never really see that flame bursting out of the muzzle. Great pics.

lead · 10-15-2012, 12:39 PM

Some pretty impressive stills. I like the fire rings. If the revolver was in focus that would be a wallpaper quality shot.

hardluk1 · 10-16-2012, 01:31 PM

Out of that short barrel you can't help but gets cool fire rings and flash.

mesinge2 · 10-16-2012, 07:10 PM

I have longer 44s but that shorttie 44 is my favorite. When I bought it, it had the worst trigger I have ever felt. So I sent it to S&W for the master revolver action package and for a fixed C&S extreme duty rear sight. Now, it's my little beast.

Rugermanws · 10-16-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mesinge2

I have longer 44s but that shorttie 44 is my favorite. When I bought it, it had the worst trigger I have ever felt. So I sent it to S&W for the master revolver action package and for a fixed C&S extreme duty rear sight. Now, it's my little beast.

MY friend bought the Ruger Alaskan in 460 or 480 I believe. The recoil was so strong the gun barrel kept hitting my baseball cap on the front bill after each shot. I would have loved to see that revolver shot in the light you did yours. It was truely a flame thrower.

CJ_56 · 10-17-2012, 07:20 AM

I use the reduced recoil, 255 gr. Buffalo Bore in my 629. Are you aware that the suggested limit for the 629 is that 255 "Keith" round? 629's are known to rattle apart under the pressure of heavier rounds that were actually make for the cast steel Rugers etc.. They will jump time and before you know it the cylinder is going right back to the same empty casing every time you pull the trigger. It takes a gunsmith with some talent to get them back to proper working order after that. I've read lots of reports where people could not get their 629's working correctly after firing the heavy loads (like the +P loads). I would highly suggest that you search the net for information on this issue. I found out a lot at the S&W forum. I'm not trying to be a know it all. I'm not putting down your 629. I have one myself and I love it. I'm just trying to help someone avoid a problem with a nice gun. S&W's are great pistols that are very, very accurate. But they aren't as strong as the cast steel guns made by Ruger in particular. They just won't stand up to the same ammo. Buffalo Bore makes a big deal of having designed the Keith cartridge to work in the 329 Smiths but that wasn't the case not too long ago. They were hawking it as a dangerous game round suitable for use in any modern .44 magnum in good working order. It was no secret they meant the 629 at that time. I've seen evidence of that too. The reason they developed this round is because it is common knowledge tha the 629 revolvers just won't stand up to the same load the Rugers do.

gvw3 · 10-17-2012, 07:33 PM

I don't know about the gun holding up to these rounds but the hand will not. I have been shooting the Remington 180 grain out of my Ruger Blackhawk to save my hand.

The heavier rounds were killing my hand. I just cant bring myself to shooting the 44 specials.

mesinge2 · 10-17-2012, 09:31 PM

Thanks for the concern CJ_56, but I actually did do my research before I picked them up. I am a careful handgunner. I have a Ruger Redhawk for the "Ruger ONLY loads"

From Buffalo Bore's site (https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...duct_list&c=72):

This load is designed to be safe in ALL/ANY, all steel firearms that are in normal operating condition. We do not recommend its use in lightweight alloyed revolvers as the bullets may jump the crimp.

hogger129 · 10-17-2012, 11:39 PM

cool pics i especially liked that orange ring when you fired

10-15-2012, 10:50 AM	#1
mesinge2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 539	Range Report: 240 Grain Buffalo Bore 44 Magnum +P Deer Grenades I shot all of them with my 629 Talo and have no more The shooting was done at 14 yards. The first video is me shooting in double Action. The second video is a guy that wanted to try the "loud booming gun"; his words. He shot in single action and upon getting screen shots I realized that he almost dropped the gun a few times! The Deer Grenades have almost no flash out of the cylinder gap displayed by the 300 grain Nosler DoubleTap loads I tested but they do also make that ring of fire like the DoubleTap loads. VIDEO: .44 Mag S&W 629-6 Deluxe Talo Edition VIDEO: .44 Mag S&W 629-6 Deluxe Talo Edition Muzzle Flash __________________ NRA Certified Instructor "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise. I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind ... Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." 1785, Thomas Jefferson. -->

10-15-2012, 12:12 PM	#2
Rugermanws V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: White Oak Pa Posts: 227	Re: Range Report: 240 Grain Buffalo Bore 44 Magnum +P Deer Grenades I shoot in daylight mostly and you never really see that flame bursting out of the muzzle. Great pics.

10-15-2012, 12:39 PM	#3
lead Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,522	Re: Range Report: 240 Grain Buffalo Bore 44 Magnum +P Deer Grenades Some pretty impressive stills. I like the fire rings. If the revolver was in focus that would be a wallpaper quality shot. __________________ The best things in life, are not things.

10-16-2012, 01:31 PM	#4
hardluk1 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: nc mountains Posts: 294	Re: Range Report: 240 Grain Buffalo Bore 44 Magnum +P Deer Grenades Out of that short barrel you can't help but gets cool fire rings and flash.

10-16-2012, 07:10 PM	#5
mesinge2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 539	Re: Range Report: 240 Grain Buffalo Bore 44 Magnum +P Deer Grenades I have longer 44s but that shorttie 44 is my favorite. When I bought it, it had the worst trigger I have ever felt. So I sent it to S&W for the master revolver action package and for a fixed C&S extreme duty rear sight. Now, it's my little beast. __________________ NRA Certified Instructor "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise. I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind ... Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." 1785, Thomas Jefferson.

10-17-2012, 07:20 AM	#7
CJ_56 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: SE Ohio Posts: 391	Re: Range Report: 240 Grain Buffalo Bore 44 Magnum +P Deer Grenades I use the reduced recoil, 255 gr. Buffalo Bore in my 629. Are you aware that the suggested limit for the 629 is that 255 "Keith" round? 629's are known to rattle apart under the pressure of heavier rounds that were actually make for the cast steel Rugers etc.. They will jump time and before you know it the cylinder is going right back to the same empty casing every time you pull the trigger. It takes a gunsmith with some talent to get them back to proper working order after that. I've read lots of reports where people could not get their 629's working correctly after firing the heavy loads (like the +P loads). I would highly suggest that you search the net for information on this issue. I found out a lot at the S&W forum. I'm not trying to be a know it all. I'm not putting down your 629. I have one myself and I love it. I'm just trying to help someone avoid a problem with a nice gun. S&W's are great pistols that are very, very accurate. But they aren't as strong as the cast steel guns made by Ruger in particular. They just won't stand up to the same ammo. Buffalo Bore makes a big deal of having designed the Keith cartridge to work in the 329 Smiths but that wasn't the case not too long ago. They were hawking it as a dangerous game round suitable for use in any modern .44 magnum in good working order. It was no secret they meant the 629 at that time. I've seen evidence of that too. The reason they developed this round is because it is common knowledge tha the 629 revolvers just won't stand up to the same load the Rugers do. Last edited by CJ_56; 10-17-2012 at 07:27 AM..

10-17-2012, 07:33 PM	#8
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,459	Re: Range Report: 240 Grain Buffalo Bore 44 Magnum +P Deer Grenades I don't know about the gun holding up to these rounds but the hand will not. I have been shooting the Remington 180 grain out of my Ruger Blackhawk to save my hand. The heavier rounds were killing my hand. I just cant bring myself to shooting the 44 specials. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

10-17-2012, 09:31 PM	#9
mesinge2 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 539	Re: Range Report: 240 Grain Buffalo Bore 44 Magnum +P Deer Grenades Thanks for the concern CJ_56, but I actually did do my research before I picked them up. I am a careful handgunner. I have a Ruger Redhawk for the "Ruger ONLY loads" From Buffalo Bore's site (https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...duct_list&c=72): This load is designed to be safe in ALL/ANY, all steel firearms that are in normal operating condition. We do not recommend its use in lightweight alloyed revolvers as the bullets may jump the crimp. __________________ NRA Certified Instructor "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise. I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind ... Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." 1785, Thomas Jefferson. Last edited by mesinge2; 10-17-2012 at 09:33 PM..

10-17-2012, 11:39 PM	#10
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,078	Re: Range Report: 240 Grain Buffalo Bore 44 Magnum +P Deer Grenades cool pics i especially liked that orange ring when you fired __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."