civil war bayonet? - The Firearms Forum

reinhard · 10-20-2012, 09:42 AM

Hi ,I want to show you this bayonet,a buddy of mine purchased this knife/bayonet on a flea market in Belgium. It was on sale for 250€ (310$)
can you tell me what kind of bayonet this is? on what kind of rifle it was used,and if original what would be the value?

BillM · 10-20-2012, 10:20 AM

http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/dahlgren.htm

Read the note on reproductions at the bottom----

Some fake vs real pix here:

http://azswords.com/Fake%20DAHLGREN.htm

Just doing a little searching, and it appears that there are more
" RARE original dahlgren RARE" bayonets for sale on the net right
now than were ever produced. Caveat Emptor

reinhard · 10-20-2012, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillM

http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/dahlgren.htm

Read the note on reproductions at the bottom----

Some fake vs real pix here:

http://azswords.com/Fake%20DAHLGREN.htm

Thank you sir ,that was very helpful

stede · 10-20-2012, 06:32 PM

Yes, unfortunately a fake of the rare Dahlgren bayonet...

RJay · 10-21-2012, 09:30 PM

Whoa! 310 dollars for a reproduction, If I was your friend I would fly back to Belgium and get a refund

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reinhard · 10-22-2012, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJay

Whoa! 310 dollars for a reproduction, If I was your friend I would fly back to Belgium and get a refund

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RJay he is a Belgian ,so am I,
I told him to present the bayonet on this forum,more knowledgeable people here !
it's Not even a good copy of a Dahlgren bayonet , probably made in India or Pakistan;,the type of lettering oozes fake.

stede · 10-22-2012, 05:18 PM

There were some repros out of Japan in the mid 60s that were superbly done; properly aged they could (and probably do) pass for originals now.

reinhard · 10-23-2012, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stede

There were some repros out of Japan in the mid 60s that were superbly done; properly aged they could (and probably do) pass for originals now.

a lot of fake objects are made in Japan ,I saw an antique sharps 4 barrel derringer,small stamp in the frame "made in japan" almost undetectable by the naked eye,
thanks again for all your opinions

GunnyGene · 10-23-2012, 01:45 PM

Sometimes you need to remove the grip/hilt to find out if a blade is original or not. Especially true with Samurai, such as this one I have. The markings on the tang identify who made it, but you'll need to have someone translate for you.

10-20-2012, 09:42 AM	#1
reinhard V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 202	civil war bayonet? Hi ,I want to show you this bayonet,a buddy of mine purchased this knife/bayonet on a flea market in Belgium. It was on sale for 250€ (310$) can you tell me what kind of bayonet this is? on what kind of rifle it was used,and if original what would be the value? -->

10-20-2012, 10:20 AM	#2
BillM V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Amity Orygun Posts: 390	Re: civil war bayonet? http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/dahlgren.htm Read the note on reproductions at the bottom---- Some fake vs real pix here: http://azswords.com/Fake%20DAHLGREN.htm Just doing a little searching, and it appears that there are more " RARE original dahlgren RARE" bayonets for sale on the net right now than were ever produced. Caveat Emptor Last edited by BillM; 10-20-2012 at 10:36 AM..

10-20-2012, 06:32 PM	#4
stede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 94	Re: civil war bayonet? Yes, unfortunately a fake of the rare Dahlgren bayonet...

10-21-2012, 09:30 PM	#5
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,504	Re: civil war bayonet? Whoa! 310 dollars for a reproduction, If I was your friend I would fly back to Belgium and get a refund. __________________ RonJames

10-22-2012, 05:18 PM	#7
stede V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 94	Re: civil war bayonet? There were some repros out of Japan in the mid 60s that were superbly done; properly aged they could (and probably do) pass for originals now.

10-23-2012, 01:45 PM	#9
GunnyGene Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,962	Re: civil war bayonet? Sometimes you need to remove the grip/hilt to find out if a blade is original or not. Especially true with Samurai, such as this one I have. The markings on the tang identify who made it, but you'll need to have someone translate for you.