Interesting viewpoint

norahc · 10-17-2012, 02:20 PM

http://www.salon.com/2007/04/18/dems_and_guns/

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Moreover, gun control is an issue with what Spitzer describes as “hassle” and “intensity” factors that don’t favor advocates. Supporters of gun rights are passionate in a way that supporters of gun control are not — gun-rights backers are single-issue voters and activists, while on the other side, Spitzer says, “the typical gun control supporter is somebody for whom the issue is not a No. 1 concern, it’s No. 6 or No. 8.”

Do you find this to be true with you? If a candidate is anti-gun but favors everything else you believe in, would you vote for him? Or is the anti-gun issue a deal breaker no matter what?

racerham · 10-17-2012, 08:10 PM

I've made that decision before - I don't agree with everything the Republicans espouse - but the more important issues I do agree with...

Death Penalty and 2nd amendment vs Womans right to choose -

just another trade off - But I'm voting for Romney

jack404 · 10-17-2012, 08:12 PM

trust me they take your guns they may as well take your rights to freedom of property ownership etc

taking your guns will lose you everything folks

it is a deal breaker

life or death what would you choose ??

25yretcoastie · 10-17-2012, 08:17 PM

Deal Breaker for Sure

jedwil · 10-17-2012, 08:18 PM

Deal Breaker.

carver · 10-17-2012, 08:18 PM

I agree with Jack again! With out the 2nd Amendment there will be no other freedoms, or rights!

time2shoot · 10-17-2012, 08:37 PM

Deal breaker.

norahc · 10-17-2012, 08:51 PM

No surprise (considering this is a gun forum), but so far all of us agree it is a deal breaker.

CCHolderinMaine · 10-17-2012, 08:54 PM

As far as amendments go, If you don't have the second, you'll never have the first.

cutter · 10-17-2012, 09:04 PM

Deal Breaker. The 2 amendment is a litmas test for me. If they don't believe in the second then there will be others he/she will not believe in!! It all or none for me of the original 10 amedments. If they believe in "common sense" gun laws they are lying about how they really believe.

I don't trust Rommeny 100% BUT HE is 1000 times better than Odumbo!

hogger129 · 10-17-2012, 11:24 PM

For me, it's a deal breaker.

aa1911 · 10-17-2012, 11:33 PM

If it's a wishy washy gun rights stance and not a big issue with the candidate, I might consider, but if the candidate is obviously anti gun, it's a no go for me.

Donnie D · 10-18-2012, 06:21 AM

Like Jack said, deal breaker for sure, because loss of our 2nd Ammendment rights will just lead to more and more losses.

Donnie D

gvw3 · 10-18-2012, 04:14 PM

All any candidate has to say is he is for banning or taxing anything to do with firearms and he/she lost my vote for good. I will listen to any other idea's but not that.

Gun Geezer · 10-18-2012, 07:57 PM

Constitutional Rights are what elected officials are sworn to protect. IMHO if they are anti-gun then they are anti-Constitution and do not get my vote!

Munch · 10-18-2012, 08:27 PM

It's a deal breaker for me as well. I also agree that our rights, set forth in the constitution, are what we elect these people to uphold and protect. If they are unable to agree with the entire document I will never vote for them.

Inthewind1976 · 10-21-2012, 02:44 AM

Absolute deal breaker - EVERY TIME.

targetacqmgt · 10-21-2012, 03:34 AM

Yup deal breaker for me as well. Here in North Carolina jsut about everyone hunts. In my county some hunt to literally put meat on the table. From what I can see most are working poor. Sooo I do not see North Carolina getting rid of long rifles at any time UNLESS the Feds force them. Oh and there is NO limit on magazine capacity to hunt.

cpttango30 · 10-21-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gun Geezer

Constitutional Rights are what elected officials are sworn to protect. IMHO if they are anti-gun then they are anti-Constitution and do not get my vote!

Exactly how I feel.

Twicepop · 10-21-2012, 08:13 AM

I feel if he/she is against this one particular right guaranteed to me by the Constitution, that they probably don't give a damn for the rest of it as well. Deal breaker for sure.

those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

10-17-2012, 08:10 PM	#2
racerham V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NW Oregon, near the beach Posts: 62	Re: Interesting viewpoint I've made that decision before - I don't agree with everything the Republicans espouse - but the more important issues I do agree with... Death Penalty and 2nd amendment vs Womans right to choose - just another trade off - But I'm voting for Romney

10-17-2012, 08:12 PM	#3
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Interesting viewpoint trust me they take your guns they may as well take your rights to freedom of property ownership etc taking your guns will lose you everything folks it is a deal breaker life or death what would you choose ??

10-17-2012, 08:17 PM	#4
25yretcoastie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fort Pierce Fl Posts: 556	Re: Interesting viewpoint Deal Breaker for Sure

10-17-2012, 08:18 PM	#5
jedwil Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country Contributor Posts: 1,916	Re: Interesting viewpoint Deal Breaker. __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." -- John F. Kennedy

10-17-2012, 08:18 PM	#6
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,215	Re: Interesting viewpoint I agree with Jack again! With out the 2nd Amendment there will be no other freedoms, or rights! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

10-17-2012, 08:37 PM	#7
time2shoot Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brandon SD Contributor Posts: 2,599	Re: Interesting viewpoint Deal breaker. __________________ I AM A VETERAN MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE!

10-17-2012, 08:54 PM	#9
CCHolderinMaine Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Steep Falls, Maine Contributor Posts: 626	Re: Interesting viewpoint As far as amendments go, If you don't have the second, you'll never have the first.

10-17-2012, 09:04 PM	#10
cutter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 628	Re: Interesting viewpoint Deal Breaker. The 2 amendment is a litmas test for me. If they don't believe in the second then there will be others he/she will not believe in!! It all or none for me of the original 10 amedments. If they believe in "common sense" gun laws they are lying about how they really believe. I don't trust Rommeny 100% BUT HE is 1000 times better than Odumbo! Last edited by cutter; 10-17-2012 at 09:05 PM..

10-17-2012, 11:24 PM	#11
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: Interesting viewpoint For me, it's a deal breaker. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can." Last edited by hogger129; 10-17-2012 at 11:25 PM..

10-17-2012, 11:33 PM	#12
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,110	Re: Interesting viewpoint If it's a wishy washy gun rights stance and not a big issue with the candidate, I might consider, but if the candidate is obviously anti gun, it's a no go for me. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

10-18-2012, 06:21 AM	#13
Donnie D V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NE North Carolina Posts: 325	Re: Interesting viewpoint Like Jack said, deal breaker for sure, because loss of our 2nd Ammendment rights will just lead to more and more losses. Donnie D

10-18-2012, 04:14 PM	#14
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,237	Re: Interesting viewpoint All any candidate has to say is he is for banning or taxing anything to do with firearms and he/she lost my vote for good. I will listen to any other idea's but not that. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

10-18-2012, 07:57 PM	#15
Gun Geezer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,711	Re: Interesting viewpoint Constitutional Rights are what elected officials are sworn to protect. IMHO if they are anti-gun then they are anti-Constitution and do not get my vote! __________________ If voting could change anything for the better, It'd already be illegal.

10-18-2012, 08:27 PM	#16
Munch V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Puyallup, WA. Posts: 317	Re: Interesting viewpoint It's a deal breaker for me as well. I also agree that our rights, set forth in the constitution, are what we elect these people to uphold and protect. If they are unable to agree with the entire document I will never vote for them.

10-21-2012, 02:44 AM	#17
Inthewind1976 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 533	Re: Interesting viewpoint Absolute deal breaker - EVERY TIME.

10-21-2012, 03:34 AM	#18
targetacqmgt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 494	Re: Interesting viewpoint Yup deal breaker for me as well. Here in North Carolina jsut about everyone hunts. In my county some hunt to literally put meat on the table. From what I can see most are working poor. Sooo I do not see North Carolina getting rid of long rifles at any time UNLESS the Feds force them. Oh and there is NO limit on magazine capacity to hunt. Last edited by targetacqmgt; 10-21-2012 at 03:35 AM..

10-21-2012, 08:13 AM	#20
Twicepop Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 579	Re: Interesting viewpoint I feel if he/she is against this one particular right guaranteed to me by the Constitution, that they probably don't give a damn for the rest of it as well. Deal breaker for sure. those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't