Help identifying old black powder revolver - The Firearms Forum

tnagaway · 11-04-2012, 01:58 AM

Hi there

A friend recently acquired this piece but he has no idea about origin / make / value etc ...

Any help would be greatly appreciated .

tnagaway · 11-04-2012, 02:00 AM

The only markings on it are GFC with a crown on top of the three letters

tnagaway · 11-04-2012, 02:18 AM

Correction, doesn't seem to be black powder !

jack404 · 11-04-2012, 02:27 AM

Crown over GFC is Julius Posselt and is famous for his later early use of Bakelite in early P38 handles (grips)

from the official marks book

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The 1W is the manufactures code according to the State Material Supervising and Testing Bureau in Dahlem (MD) and stands for Julius Posselt. It is also listed in the 1940 issue Heft 3 from the Staatliches Materialprüüfungsamt in Berlin. This 1940 issue listed the following materials in their production. Presstoff Type S and Presstoff Type 2. His other code (Pre War) was GFC under a crown (Gablonz an der Neisse, now Jablonec nad Nisou, Czech republic)

he never made black powder weapons though early cartridges and even pinfires listed ( no pic's sorry) but all cartridge guns

jack404 · 11-04-2012, 02:28 AM

and i should have looked before posting

correct not black powder ..

so i'd guess you have a Czech made early Posselt

tnagaway · 11-04-2012, 02:34 AM

Many thanks Jack404 ... any idea about model number, date of manufacture ?

B27 · 11-04-2012, 02:35 AM

Could well have fired BP cartridges.....

jack404 · 11-04-2012, 02:49 AM

tnagaway , sorry no i have a few books on markings from europe but thats pretty much ALL they talk about euro guns is a speciality beyond my knowledge , i get one or two occasionally but thats it

wish i could help more

could be BP cartridge but dont have enough info to say

again marks and proofs are all registered many makes and models of gun are not

Jim K · 11-04-2012, 12:19 PM

It appears to be a Galand military revolver. Most were made in Belgium, though they were made elsewhere. Many of those made in Belgium were marked "Galand/Paris". Look for an oval with the letters E L G in it; that would be the Belgian proofmark.

Take a look here and look at the Model 1872 military revolver.

http://littlegun.be/arme%20belge/art...aland%20gb.htm

Jim

Max Donovan · 05-22-2013, 07:35 PM

It is a first model Galand, identified by the nearly-vertical grip. Do you need for me to post details?

11-04-2012, 01:58 AM	#1
tnagaway Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4	Help identifying old black powder revolver Hi there A friend recently acquired this piece but he has no idea about origin / make / value etc ... Any help would be greatly appreciated . Attached Images -->

11-04-2012, 02:00 AM	#2
tnagaway Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4	Re: Help identifying old black powder revolver The only markings on it are GFC with a crown on top of the three letters

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tnagaway Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4	Re: Help identifying old black powder revolver Correction, doesn't seem to be black powder ! Attached Images

11-04-2012, 02:28 AM	#5
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Help identifying old black powder revolver and i should have looked before posting correct not black powder .. so i'd guess you have a Czech made early Posselt Last edited by jack404; 11-04-2012 at 02:30 AM..

11-04-2012, 02:34 AM	#6
tnagaway Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4	Re: Help identifying old black powder revolver Many thanks Jack404 ... any idea about model number, date of manufacture ?

11-04-2012, 02:35 AM	#7
B27 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 415	Re: Help identifying old black powder revolver Could well have fired BP cartridges..... __________________ "Do not stand beside the road and argue with a fool...lest others in passing take you also for a fool."

11-04-2012, 02:49 AM	#8
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Help identifying old black powder revolver tnagaway , sorry no i have a few books on markings from europe but thats pretty much ALL they talk about euro guns is a speciality beyond my knowledge , i get one or two occasionally but thats it wish i could help more could be BP cartridge but dont have enough info to say again marks and proofs are all registered many makes and models of gun are not

11-04-2012, 12:19 PM	#9
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Help identifying old black powder revolver It appears to be a Galand military revolver. Most were made in Belgium, though they were made elsewhere. Many of those made in Belgium were marked "Galand/Paris". Look for an oval with the letters E L G in it; that would be the Belgian proofmark. Take a look here and look at the Model 1872 military revolver. http://littlegun.be/arme%20belge/art...aland%20gb.htm Jim

05-22-2013, 07:35 PM	#10
Max Donovan V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 83	Re: Help identifying old black powder revolver It is a first model Galand, identified by the nearly-vertical grip. Do you need for me to post details?