wow.. I was censored! - The Firearms Forum

ShawnDow · 11-08-2012, 06:20 PM

So in a bit of disgust

... I posted a picture indicating our nation being in distress on Facebook (upside down flag)

and I wasn't the only one... And after just 1 reply to it... it has disappeared! What happened to my first amendment right?

markfh · 11-08-2012, 06:25 PM

He who has the gold makes the rules. Simple.

76Highboy · 11-08-2012, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnDow

So in a bit of disgust

... I posted a picture indicating our nation being in distress on Facebook (upside down flag)

and I wasn't the only one... And after just 1 reply to it... it has disappeared! What happened to my first amendment right?

Facebook is a private website, if I am correct. Kind of like on here. If a liberal comes on and suddenly begins talking in a way we don't support, they are banned. But even at that, our freedoms are being diminished.

RJay · 11-08-2012, 06:26 PM

No offence to you personally, but I for one do not approve of using the American flag for political views. I spent way too many years serving it. Your face book image needed to be removed, while you may not have understood the feelings of so many of us who served and defended that flag, it was wrong to use it as such.

rosierita · 11-08-2012, 06:35 PM

hubby was censored on FB this morning too!

all he said was....

"before the election half of american didnt want to work & now it appears that after the election the other half doesnt want to work either"

ShawnDow · 11-08-2012, 06:40 PM

RJay, I respect your point of view.. And I would probably have a greater respect of its symbology, if I was allowed to serve (I was medically disqualified... twice) when I tried enlisting.
None the less,
-CITE-
4 USC Sec. 8 01/03/2012 (112-90)

-EXPCITE-
TITLE 4 - FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES
CHAPTER 1 - THE FLAG

-HEAD-
Sec. 8. Respect for flag

-STATUTE-
No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of
America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing.
Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional
flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down,
except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger
to life or property.
And I feel that we are headed that direction... of course this is my opinion and belief.. and Im allowed to express myself as such.

Again.. no disrespect to those who were allowed and have served (wish I could have).

Alpo · 11-08-2012, 07:04 PM

If you posted something on Facebook that the owners of Facebook did not like, they made it go away. Just like if you put a sign in my front yard saying something I did not agree with I'd pull it down.

You want to buy a website? Go for it. Then you can post any thing your little heart desires. But someone owns Facebook, and you, apparently, ain't him. Why should his not allowing you to post something he disagrees with be considered trampling on your First Amendment rights?

ShawnDow · 11-08-2012, 07:16 PM

Your right Alpo.. i did step on the owners toes, didn't I? And in the aspects of freedom of speech..I pushed it way out of bounds. I was expressing my belief.. on someone else's property.. Thank you for pointing that out, and it was my fault.
I guess Im done with the "Im mad at them" (F.B.)... and should apologize to them.
Thanks for pointing me in the proper direction.

flboots · 11-08-2012, 07:42 PM

The 1st amend. rights is just for socialist, commies, and liberals so they can say what they want. According to them if you don't agree with what they say. You don't have 1st amend. rights. Might as well get use to not having 1st amend rights or 2sd if obama and his butt kissers have anything to do about it.

time2shoot · 11-08-2012, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnDow

So in a bit of disgust

... I posted a picture indicating our nation being in distress on Facebook (upside down flag)

and I wasn't the only one... And after just 1 reply to it... it has disappeared! What happened to my first amendment right?

It's called "the white house grounds and Improvement act "

look it up and read it.
not trying to be a smart ars. please look it up.

gun runner · 11-09-2012, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShawnDow

Your right Alpo.. i did step on the owners toes, didn't I? And in the aspects of freedom of speech..I pushed it way out of bounds. I was expressing my belief.. on someone else's property.. Thank you for pointing that out, and it was my fault.
I guess Im done with the "Im mad at them" (F.B.)... and should apologize to them.
Thanks for pointing me in the proper direction.

I wouldnt apologize to Face Book. They dont care about you

Alpo · 11-09-2012, 10:44 AM

I agree with gun runner.

Some years back people moved in next door and cleaned out the shed in their back yard. When I got home from work, there was a huge pile of trash at the street, for pickup. In my yard. I looked at that, got mad, calmed down, and thought, "Well, trash pickup's tomorrow. Ain't no sense in getting in a pissing contest with them", and I let it stay there. Next day the trash truck picked it up. The day after that there was another huge pile of trash at the street, to be picked up. In My Yard. So I got a shovel and moved it into their yard. I did not try to be neat. I just moved trash, like I was stoking a boiler. And I ended up with a GIANT pile of trash, mostly in their driveway. A few hours later came a knock at the door, and it's the new neighbor apologizing for piling trash in my yard.

Now, I did not need her to apologize. I just needed her to not put trash in my yard. Like Gun Runner said, I did not care about her. I just cared about her not putting trash in my yard.

I wouldn't apologize to facebook.

hunter29180 · 11-09-2012, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosierita

"before the election half of american didnt want to work & now it appears that after the election the other half doesnt want to work either"

WHAT SHE SAID!!

WHSmithIV · 11-09-2012, 02:38 PM

Just a note about Facebook. They don't actively censor. If a post gets made and someone marks it as spam then it can get removed. They do have problems with servers also since they have several hundred of them. My account sometimes has trouble posting but it is a server issue - my wife's account is on a different server. Usually, if you log out and log back in the posting problem disappears.

Facebook has not blocked millions of anti-Obozo posts. They also have allowed all the info coming out about Benghazi to be published and the info about the illegal overseas campaign contributions. It is very obvious that Obozo and his goons haven't been able to touch Facebook. We should all be applauding their belief that people have the right to criticize the government and demand truth. I certainly have seen a lot of Benghazi info and have posted a lot also.

robbielynn · 11-10-2012, 06:47 PM

Facebook is not a privately owned company. It is listed on the NYSE. However this site is not so there is a profound difference. Does a publicly traded company listed on the NASDAQ have the right to censor? I don't know, but I think not.

Alpo · 11-11-2012, 08:30 AM

Whether it is listed on the stock exchange is irrelevant.

Walmart is on the stock exchange. I can buy Walmart stock. That does not mean you can go stand in the middle of a Walmart and make a speech. The manager would have you tossed. If you wouldn't go, the cops would come arrest you.

Freedom of Speech does NOT allow you the right to step onto somebody else's property with your opinions. And SOMEBODY owns EVERYTHING.

robbielynn · 11-11-2012, 12:23 PM

Facebook. I quit facebook. So, I guess you get what you settle for. Still, this site does not fall under the same regulations as a publicly owned company. If you think Wal Mart & this forum are equal under the "law"..we will simply agree to disagree.

45Auto · 11-11-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by robbielynn

Facebook is not a privately owned company. It is listed on the NYSE. However this site is not so there is a profound difference. Does a publicly traded company listed on the NASDAQ have the right to censor? I don't know, but I think not.

Yes, they can censor. The same as this place, no difference.

WHSmithIV · 11-12-2012, 10:05 AM

With Facebook - as with any other site, you are bound by their 'terms of service'. By signing up to the site you agree to those terms.

11-08-2012, 06:20 PM	#1
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 391	wow.. I was censored! So in a bit of disgust ... I posted a picture indicating our nation being in distress on Facebook (upside down flag) and I wasn't the only one... And after just 1 reply to it... it has disappeared! What happened to my first amendment right? __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span! -->

11-08-2012, 06:25 PM	#2
markfh V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 200	Re: wow.. I was censored! He who has the gold makes the rules. Simple.

11-08-2012, 06:26 PM	#4
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,485	Re: wow.. I was censored! No offence to you personally, but I for one do not approve of using the American flag for political views. I spent way too many years serving it. Your face book image needed to be removed, while you may not have understood the feelings of so many of us who served and defended that flag, it was wrong to use it as such. __________________ RonJames

11-08-2012, 06:35 PM	#5
rosierita Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,218	Re: wow.. I was censored! hubby was censored on FB this morning too! all he said was.... "before the election half of american didnt want to work & now it appears that after the election the other half doesnt want to work either" __________________

11-08-2012, 06:40 PM	#6
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 391	Re: wow.. I was censored! RJay, I respect your point of view.. And I would probably have a greater respect of its symbology, if I was allowed to serve (I was medically disqualified... twice) when I tried enlisting. None the less, -CITE- 4 USC Sec. 8 01/03/2012 (112-90) -EXPCITE- TITLE 4 - FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES CHAPTER 1 - THE FLAG -HEAD- Sec. 8. Respect for flag -STATUTE- No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor. (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property. And I feel that we are headed that direction... of course this is my opinion and belief.. and Im allowed to express myself as such. Again.. no disrespect to those who were allowed and have served (wish I could have). __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-08-2012, 07:04 PM	#7
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,648	Re: wow.. I was censored! If you posted something on Facebook that the owners of Facebook did not like, they made it go away. Just like if you put a sign in my front yard saying something I did not agree with I'd pull it down. You want to buy a website? Go for it. Then you can post any thing your little heart desires. But someone owns Facebook, and you, apparently, ain't him. Why should his not allowing you to post something he disagrees with be considered trampling on your First Amendment rights? __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

11-08-2012, 07:16 PM	#8
ShawnDow V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Tawas City, Michigan Posts: 391	Re: wow.. I was censored! Your right Alpo.. i did step on the owners toes, didn't I? And in the aspects of freedom of speech..I pushed it way out of bounds. I was expressing my belief.. on someone else's property.. Thank you for pointing that out, and it was my fault. I guess Im done with the "Im mad at them" (F.B.)... and should apologize to them. Thanks for pointing me in the proper direction. __________________ You can't prevent the inevitable.. only alter its time span!

11-08-2012, 07:42 PM	#9
flboots V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Northeast Florida Posts: 351	Re: wow.. I was censored! The 1st amend. rights is just for socialist, commies, and liberals so they can say what they want. According to them if you don't agree with what they say. You don't have 1st amend. rights. Might as well get use to not having 1st amend rights or 2sd if obama and his butt kissers have anything to do about it.

11-09-2012, 10:44 AM	#12
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,648	Re: wow.. I was censored! I agree with gun runner. Some years back people moved in next door and cleaned out the shed in their back yard. When I got home from work, there was a huge pile of trash at the street, for pickup. In my yard. I looked at that, got mad, calmed down, and thought, "Well, trash pickup's tomorrow. Ain't no sense in getting in a pissing contest with them", and I let it stay there. Next day the trash truck picked it up. The day after that there was another huge pile of trash at the street, to be picked up. In My Yard. So I got a shovel and moved it into their yard. I did not try to be neat. I just moved trash, like I was stoking a boiler. And I ended up with a GIANT pile of trash, mostly in their driveway. A few hours later came a knock at the door, and it's the new neighbor apologizing for piling trash in my yard. Now, I did not need her to apologize. I just needed her to not put trash in my yard. Like Gun Runner said, I did not care about her. I just cared about her not putting trash in my yard. I wouldn't apologize to facebook. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

11-09-2012, 02:38 PM	#14
WHSmithIV Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Moore, Idaho contributor Posts: 2,605	Re: wow.. I was censored! Just a note about Facebook. They don't actively censor. If a post gets made and someone marks it as spam then it can get removed. They do have problems with servers also since they have several hundred of them. My account sometimes has trouble posting but it is a server issue - my wife's account is on a different server. Usually, if you log out and log back in the posting problem disappears. Facebook has not blocked millions of anti-Obozo posts. They also have allowed all the info coming out about Benghazi to be published and the info about the illegal overseas campaign contributions. It is very obvious that Obozo and his goons haven't been able to touch Facebook. We should all be applauding their belief that people have the right to criticize the government and demand truth. I certainly have seen a lot of Benghazi info and have posted a lot also. Last edited by WHSmithIV; 11-09-2012 at 02:44 PM..

11-10-2012, 06:47 PM	#15
robbielynn Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Rural Texas Posts: 10	Re: wow.. I was censored! Facebook is not a privately owned company. It is listed on the NYSE. However this site is not so there is a profound difference. Does a publicly traded company listed on the NASDAQ have the right to censor? I don't know, but I think not.

11-11-2012, 08:30 AM	#16
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,648	Re: wow.. I was censored! Whether it is listed on the stock exchange is irrelevant. Walmart is on the stock exchange. I can buy Walmart stock. That does not mean you can go stand in the middle of a Walmart and make a speech. The manager would have you tossed. If you wouldn't go, the cops would come arrest you. Freedom of Speech does NOT allow you the right to step onto somebody else's property with your opinions. And SOMEBODY owns EVERYTHING. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

11-11-2012, 12:23 PM	#17
robbielynn Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Rural Texas Posts: 10	Re: wow.. I was censored! Facebook. I quit facebook. So, I guess you get what you settle for. Still, this site does not fall under the same regulations as a publicly owned company. If you think Wal Mart & this forum are equal under the "law"..we will simply agree to disagree.

11-12-2012, 10:05 AM	#19
WHSmithIV Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Moore, Idaho contributor Posts: 2,605	Re: wow.. I was censored! With Facebook - as with any other site, you are bound by their 'terms of service'. By signing up to the site you agree to those terms.