Help with jb ronge pistol

[Krisplus4]

I have what I think is a old pistol bit I'm not sure.
It says jb ronge fils.liege on it and the # 8014.
The hammer has 2 marks on it looks like A with a
Star above it and something that looks like a rake.
The back of the barrel has 5 different marks on it.
To me it seems like it is a .22 and a dualing pistol
But I'm not sure. I'm interested to see if anybody
On here would know. I am in Colorado and in the
Process of looking for places I can take this to and
Find out more info. I have pics but not sure how to
Add them. Thank you for your time.

[jack404]

Welcome !for posting pic's try this thread here


http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=101551

and some info on the maker

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge...ronge%20gb.htm

cheers !

[Krisplus4]

Thank you. I think the pics will come in

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[jack404]

strange it has proof marks for both black powder and smokeless

either its made at that period when it was changing over

or its a replica

and i'm leaning for that time period , figure that time in belgium and you'll get a approx year of manufacture

the change over was fast in many places . 4-10 years i read once

ongoing in others it also said old article from the late 30's

have no idea of value i think its a parlour pistol

its a rook or flobert style action

i'd try a .22 short very gently in a safe area as thats what many where meant to shoot , .22 caps where common too

it something wont go in gently , dont force it

go up to a .22 LR to see , but i'd only use CB caps if i was to shoot it myself

[rhmc24]

I once had a copy of Colt 1851 Navy revolver made by Ronge. This one by Ronge Fils indicates a second generation business. The word fils is French for son.

[hrf]

Jack, don't worry about him firing it, as it's a Warnant system "flobert" type that's missing the hinged breechblock:

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge...ulien%20gb.htm

This was a weak point, and the arms of the block often cracked at the screw holes, especially if someone tried regular .22 ammo.

A 1915 gunsmith's parts catalog listed unfinished warnant breechblocks @ $8 a dozen!:

[Jim K]

It was not a duelling pistol. It was a single shot target pistol, of reasonably decent quality, probably made around 1900. It is missing the breechblock and finding one (short of having a time machine to go back to 1915) will be about impossible. There are lots of those guns around, but even though they look alike they are seldom identical and parts won't interchange.

As to value, even in working condition it would be worth around $100 or less; as it is, consider it a wall hanger.

Jim

[Krisplus4]

Thank you guys. I learned a bunch. I think I will hang it on the wall.

[jack404]

Originally Posted by hrf

Jack, don't worry about him firing it, as it's a Warnant system "flobert" type that's missing the hinged breechblock:

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge...ulien%20gb.htm

This was a weak point, and the arms of the block often cracked at the screw holes, especially if someone tried regular .22 ammo.

A 1915 gunsmith's parts catalog listed unfinished warnant breechblocks @ $8 a dozen!:

arh missing a bit , yes i see now

cheers , i thought flobert but the breech was short ..

maybe a rook ?
nope thats wrong too , i was stumped hahahahahaha

cheers the brain dont switch on till the second coffee some days