Need advice - The Firearms Forum

Orion · 11-16-2012, 12:37 AM

Hello all. I am COMPLETELY new at this and do not yet own a firearm. I live in a neighborhood that used to be peaceful and I don't have the means to move at the moment.

I live in NYC and I do not know anyone who has a firearm or how to get permitted/licensed/etc.

I've been searching online and maybe I'm using the wrong words or search terms.

Is there anyone who can assist and tell me where/how to begin the process?

Also, I would like to learn how to properly use a firearm-is it best to find someone who has one or to learn at a range or something else?

nmckenzie · 11-16-2012, 01:06 AM

When I lived in the NYC area, the place to start would've been a facility such as the West Side Rifle & Pistol Range in Manhattan. They offered the required training classes, and could guide you through NYC's rather convoluted license process.

gvw3 · 11-16-2012, 07:08 AM

Good luck. I have friends that live in the city of Chicago in the same boat.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pe...ormation.shtml
Welcome to the forum.

wv hillbilly · 11-16-2012, 07:23 AM

welcome from Wv.
is there not a gun shop in your area that could point you in the right direction?

GunnyGene · 11-16-2012, 08:28 AM

I don't live in NYC (Thank God), but it's my understanding that a handgun would be far more difficult to buy and license than a shotgun or rifle. So I'd suggest looking into a pump shotgun for home defense purposes. There's a wide variety to choose from, but the Mossberg 590 series is popular. http://www.mossberg.com/products/sho...pecial-purpose

goofy · 11-16-2012, 08:45 AM

Getting a pistol lic. in NY city is almost impossible.I am in the finger lakes region of NY and it is not easy out here because of the city and the city has it's own set of rules and regulations.
Check with a gun shop in your area or local LED to see how hard it is going to be.
A long gun(shot gun) would be easier but is not going to be easy.
You have to go to a dealer in the city to get one.
If I sell a gun to a NY city resadent it has to be shipped to a in city dealer.
Mike

gun runner · 11-16-2012, 08:53 AM

Why is it so difficult to obtain guns in NY?

howlnmad · 11-16-2012, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gun runner

Why is it so difficult to obtain guns in NY?

Because of their power tripping billionaire mayor and his ilk.

time2shoot · 11-16-2012, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howlnmad

Because of their power tripping billionaire mayor and his ilk.

what he said.

Welcome to the forum.
I would go with the shotgun. Every one knows that sound "kerchunk",
first they say it, then they do it.

and good luck.

Double D · 11-16-2012, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gun runner

Why is it so difficult to obtain guns in NY?

Bloomberg is a left wing lunatic nutjob that is probably the most clueless idiot to ever be allowed to hold office in that city. Oh and did I mention he is evil?

goofy · 11-16-2012, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gun runner

Why is it so difficult to obtain guns in NY?

We are talking NY city which has different laws regarding guns then NY state.
Out side of the city it is not that hard depending on what county you live in.
But can still be a pain.
Mike

time2shoot · 11-16-2012, 09:48 AM

Orion listen to goofy. he can point ya in the right derection.

wv hillbilly · 11-16-2012, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

Bloomberg is a left wing lunatic nutjob that is probably the most clueless idiot to ever be allowed to hold office in that city. Oh and did I mention he is evil?

i could think of a WHOLE LOT MORE DRISCRIPTIVE ADJECTIVES to add besides the word idiot

gun runner · 11-16-2012, 02:20 PM

Thanks for the information, now I know, he shouldnt be mayor then.

jstgsn · 11-16-2012, 03:08 PM

Just for chuckles, when you go into the gun shop, ask to hold/feel a mossberg youth model 20ga. Easy to use, light, good in close quarters, can shoot slugs, 3 oo buck shot, or smaller size shot. (One thing to consider in self defense is shooting through an adversary and hitting someone else.) A good firearms class will talk about that. I strongly urge you to take a firearms course. Also, check out the NRA, as they have mucho information.
Safety first at all times. I suggest you also research home security. You most likely won't be taking the gun out with you, and you certainly don't want someone to steal it while you are away. A safe or well secured closet is not all that expensive.
Anyway, thought I'd jump in and offer my little bit.
good luck
fred

nmckenzie · 11-16-2012, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunnyGene

So I'd suggest looking into a pump shotgun for home defense purposes.

Even long guns require license and registration within the boroughs of NYC. This is obtained through the NYC Firearms Control Board. Wait time when I applied for mine back in '67 was 378 days, though the process has probably been streamlined since.

firefighter1635 · 11-16-2012, 03:59 PM

Become criminal then you'll have a plethora of weapons at your disposal. Other than that your going to have an uphill battle if not impossible.

GunnyGene · 11-16-2012, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmckenzie

Even long guns require license and registration within the boroughs of NYC. This is obtained through the NYC Firearms Control Board. Wait time when I applied for mine back in '67 was 378 days, though the process has probably been streamlined since.

Wow! Makes me even more happy I don't live there.

I guess they wouldn't let me shoot it from the porch or around the yard either.

gvw3 · 11-16-2012, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GunnyGene

Wow! Makes me even more happy I don't live there.

I guess they wouldn't let me shoot it from the porch or around the yard either.

I hear they kid of frown on that there...

mjp28 · 11-16-2012, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orion

Hello all. I am COMPLETELY new at this and do not yet own a firearm. I live in a neighborhood that used to be peaceful and I don't have the means to move at the moment.

I live in NYC and I do not know anyone who has a firearm or how to get permitted/licensed/etc. .....

Well welcome to TFF and good luck in NYC getting a gun, there are some sharp guys here plus some good forums to check out various guns.

I got my first shotgun used really cheap, a 20 ga. with 2 shot magazine, still have it. Pumps are nice too.

And I always remind people check into PEPPERSPRAY (if allowed in NYC). mjp

11-16-2012, 12:37 AM	#1
Orion Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1	Need advice Hello all. I am COMPLETELY new at this and do not yet own a firearm. I live in a neighborhood that used to be peaceful and I don't have the means to move at the moment. I live in NYC and I do not know anyone who has a firearm or how to get permitted/licensed/etc. I've been searching online and maybe I'm using the wrong words or search terms. Is there anyone who can assist and tell me where/how to begin the process? Also, I would like to learn how to properly use a firearm-is it best to find someone who has one or to learn at a range or something else? -->

11-16-2012, 01:06 AM	#2
nmckenzie Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Sitka, Alaska Posts: 1,932	Re: Need advice When I lived in the NYC area, the place to start would've been a facility such as the West Side Rifle & Pistol Range in Manhattan. They offered the required training classes, and could guide you through NYC's rather convoluted license process.

11-16-2012, 07:08 AM	#3
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,256	Re: Need advice Good luck. I have friends that live in the city of Chicago in the same boat. http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pe...ormation.shtml Welcome to the forum. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk. Last edited by gvw3; 11-16-2012 at 07:10 AM.. Reason: Add link

11-16-2012, 07:23 AM	#4
wv hillbilly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: mountains of wv. Posts: 2,016	Re: Need advice welcome from Wv. is there not a gun shop in your area that could point you in the right direction?

11-16-2012, 08:28 AM	#5
GunnyGene Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,962	Re: Need advice I don't live in NYC (Thank God), but it's my understanding that a handgun would be far more difficult to buy and license than a shotgun or rifle. So I'd suggest looking into a pump shotgun for home defense purposes. There's a wide variety to choose from, but the Mossberg 590 series is popular. http://www.mossberg.com/products/sho...pecial-purpose

11-16-2012, 08:45 AM	#6
goofy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Contributor Posts: 2,018	Re: Need advice Getting a pistol lic. in NY city is almost impossible.I am in the finger lakes region of NY and it is not easy out here because of the city and the city has it's own set of rules and regulations. Check with a gun shop in your area or local LED to see how hard it is going to be. A long gun(shot gun) would be easier but is not going to be easy. You have to go to a dealer in the city to get one. If I sell a gun to a NY city resadent it has to be shipped to a in city dealer. Mike Last edited by goofy; 11-16-2012 at 08:47 AM..

11-16-2012, 08:53 AM	#7
gun runner Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Texas Contributor Posts: 1,871	Re: Need advice Why is it so difficult to obtain guns in NY?

11-16-2012, 09:48 AM	#12
time2shoot Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brandon SD Contributor Posts: 2,599	Re: Need advice Orion listen to goofy. he can point ya in the right derection. __________________ I AM A VETERAN MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE!

11-16-2012, 02:20 PM	#14
gun runner Former Guest Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: South Texas Contributor Posts: 1,871	Re: Need advice Thanks for the information, now I know, he shouldnt be mayor then.

11-16-2012, 03:08 PM	#15
jstgsn Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Milford, Delaware Contributor Posts: 1,270	Re: Need advice Just for chuckles, when you go into the gun shop, ask to hold/feel a mossberg youth model 20ga. Easy to use, light, good in close quarters, can shoot slugs, 3 oo buck shot, or smaller size shot. (One thing to consider in self defense is shooting through an adversary and hitting someone else.) A good firearms class will talk about that. I strongly urge you to take a firearms course. Also, check out the NRA, as they have mucho information. Safety first at all times. I suggest you also research home security. You most likely won't be taking the gun out with you, and you certainly don't want someone to steal it while you are away. A safe or well secured closet is not all that expensive. Anyway, thought I'd jump in and offer my little bit. good luck fred __________________ Don’t pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he will just kill you.

11-16-2012, 03:59 PM	#17
firefighter1635 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: US of A Contributor Posts: 1,837	Re: Need advice Become criminal then you'll have a plethora of weapons at your disposal. Other than that your going to have an uphill battle if not impossible. __________________ "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Samuel Adams