MARINE CORPS COMBAT MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS - The Firearms Forum

GunnyGene · 11-25-2012, 12:56 PM

For those wanting to know how the pro's do it, and hone your skills, here's the USMC Combat Marksmanship Program for rifle and pistol. It includes courses of fire in the Appendices:

MARINE CORPS ORDER 3574.2K (2007)

http://community.marines.mil/news/pu...%203574.2K.pdf

Note that most of the courses of fire are either timed and/or round limited. Which means you shouldn't run these by yourself. Have somebody there to time and score, and critique your performance. You'll need some elbow room, and plenty of ammo.

Insulation Tim · 11-25-2012, 02:18 PM

Web page cannot be found.

hstout1143 · 11-25-2012, 02:40 PM

The link isn't working Gunny.

woolleyworm · 11-25-2012, 03:18 PM

Pistol marksmanship for the M9

http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Pu...rksmanship.pdf

GunnyGene · 11-25-2012, 03:28 PM

Well it was working. Apparently they took the page down. This one works as of this post: http://community.marines.mil/news/pu...%203574.2K.pdf .

Suggest you save it to disk as soon as it loads. There were some other MCO's that returned the same 404 not found so it may be a server problem.

GunnyGene · 11-25-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by woolleyworm

Pistol marksmanship for the M9

http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Pu...rksmanship.pdf

Another good one. It and a couple others are referenced on the MCO I linked to. I've fixed the URL.

Insulation Tim · 11-25-2012, 03:58 PM

Your new URL does indeed work. Thanks for the post.

GunnyGene · 12-26-2012, 07:10 AM

An interesting article in MarineTimes - Point Blank Self Defense. The Corps (and I suspect the Army also) is incorporating some new training as a result of "Insider Attacks" in Afganistan. Couldn't find anything specific about it, but here's the article:

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/battl...12/12/18/8049/ .

This is something that would be useful to practice for home and personal defense also. SAP (Speed, Accuracy, Power) in surprise situations. Making yourself a small target, immediate cover options in your house or other locations, situational awareness, etc., etc. These are the kind of things that can save your life at 3am.

I think many newbies to personal/home defense think that a confrontation is/would be a standup fight, Wyatt Earp style. Big mistake.

IShootBack · 12-31-2012, 09:24 AM

Thanks - I look forward to reading through the manual.

GunnyGene · 12-31-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by IShootBack

Thanks - I look forward to reading through the manual.

I suspect that the new training mentioned in the Times article will be incorporated in MCRP 3-01B (previously linked), which is pretty good as it is. Like anything else tho, just reading the manual isn't enough. Regular practice is also needed.

I've been pretty lax on that part of it myself since I retired.

LRChops · 01-10-2013, 05:40 AM

Very wonderful program and worthwhile!

11-25-2012, 12:56 PM	#1
GunnyGene Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,962	MARINE CORPS COMBAT MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS For those wanting to know how the pro's do it, and hone your skills, here's the USMC Combat Marksmanship Program for rifle and pistol. It includes courses of fire in the Appendices: MARINE CORPS ORDER 3574.2K (2007) http://community.marines.mil/news/pu...%203574.2K.pdf Note that most of the courses of fire are either timed and/or round limited. Which means you shouldn't run these by yourself. Have somebody there to time and score, and critique your performance. You'll need some elbow room, and plenty of ammo. --> Last edited by GunnyGene; 11-25-2012 at 03:53 PM..

11-25-2012, 02:18 PM	#2
Insulation Tim Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,295	Re: MARINE CORPS COMBAT MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS Web page cannot be found. __________________ Tim *"Remember the Ark was built by amateurs....Professionals built the Titanic"*

11-25-2012, 02:40 PM	#3
hstout1143 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Contributor Posts: 1,735	Re: MARINE CORPS COMBAT MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS The link isn't working Gunny. __________________ NRA Life Member Kids that hunt and fish don't mug old ladies. "Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan "Deo Duce, Ferro Comitante", With God as my leader and my sword as my companion

11-25-2012, 03:18 PM	#4
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,883	Re: MARINE CORPS COMBAT MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS Pistol marksmanship for the M9 http://www.marines.mil/Portals/59/Pu...rksmanship.pdf __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." . Last edited by woolleyworm; 11-25-2012 at 03:20 PM..

11-25-2012, 03:28 PM	#5
GunnyGene Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,962	Re: MARINE CORPS COMBAT MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS Well it was working. Apparently they took the page down. This one works as of this post: http://community.marines.mil/news/pu...%203574.2K.pdf . Suggest you save it to disk as soon as it loads. There were some other MCO's that returned the same 404 not found so it may be a server problem.

11-25-2012, 03:58 PM	#7
Insulation Tim Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,295	Re: MARINE CORPS COMBAT MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS Your new URL does indeed work. Thanks for the post. __________________ Tim *"Remember the Ark was built by amateurs....Professionals built the Titanic"*

12-26-2012, 07:10 AM	#8
GunnyGene Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,962	Re: MARINE CORPS COMBAT MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS An interesting article in MarineTimes - Point Blank Self Defense. The Corps (and I suspect the Army also) is incorporating some new training as a result of "Insider Attacks" in Afganistan. Couldn't find anything specific about it, but here's the article: http://militarytimes.com/blogs/battl...12/12/18/8049/ . This is something that would be useful to practice for home and personal defense also. SAP (Speed, Accuracy, Power) in surprise situations. Making yourself a small target, immediate cover options in your house or other locations, situational awareness, etc., etc. These are the kind of things that can save your life at 3am. I think many newbies to personal/home defense think that a confrontation is/would be a standup fight, Wyatt Earp style. Big mistake.

12-31-2012, 09:24 AM	#9
IShootBack Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,306	Re: MARINE CORPS COMBAT MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS Thanks - I look forward to reading through the manual. __________________ "The Lord is a warrior, the Lord is his name." Exodus15:3

01-10-2013, 05:40 AM	#11
LRChops Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Placer Co Posts: 25	Re: MARINE CORPS COMBAT MARKSMANSHIP PROGRAMS Very wonderful program and worthwhile!