Bait and switch - The Firearms Forum

GunnyGene · 12-01-2012, 12:27 PM

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The top-ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee accused President Obama of pulling a "bait and switch" this week with the administration's proposed deal to avert the so-called "fiscal cliff."

"What [Obama] proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the American people—a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on, billions of dollars in new stimulus spending and an unlimited, unchecked authority to borrow from the Chinese," Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) said in Saturday's weekly GOP address.

"Maybe I missed it but I don’t recall him asking for any of that during the presidential campaign. These ideas are so radical that they have already been rejected on a bipartisan basis by Congress."

On Thursday, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner was dispatched to Capitol Hill to share Obama's plan with House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) The deal included $1.6 trillion in tax hikes, $50 billion in economic stimulus spending and $400 billion in spending cuts. Republicans have demanded more severe spending cuts - including entitlement reform - to begin a discussion on raising taxes.

If Congress fails to act within the next 30 days, a bevy of tax increases and severe spending cuts are set to go into effect, potentially unleashing a devastating blow to the precarious U.S. economy.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/2...ait-and-switch

tango1niner · 12-01-2012, 01:16 PM

Don't forget another 99 weeks of unemployment. When is this madness going to end.

We do not need welfare, we need WORKFARE. STOP the free giveaway programs NOW!

You want the money, you have to do something for it, and stop squirting out babies!

jedwil · 12-01-2012, 01:17 PM

It's only beginning...........

Twicepop · 12-01-2012, 01:31 PM

Just more of the lies and bully tactics fron the Democrat Party, all being told the American people by their propaganda machine, thats ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and the others. This is a battle that the Republicans will not be able to win, no matter which way they go on it. The best course of action is to abstain on everything the President and his minions bring up for a vote. The Democrats WILL destroy the economy with all of their socialist financial plans, the abstention will make the death of the economy the sole property of the Democrats and the Obama administration. You cant fight every fight, or win every one you engage in, you need to know when to walk away when you can't win. With our society being made up of more takers than makers, and with the completely complicit "news media", this is a non winable fight, walk away with no fingerprints left at the crime scene. The Democrats are prepared for a fight, they're not prepared for being given the keys to the kingdom, and whatever happens rest solely on their shoulders. No matter what the Republicans do the "news media" will play it out to be their fault, so do nothing and abstain. You can lose a fight with some dignity intact, or lose it being lied about and blamed for the outcome.

GunnyGene · 12-01-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Twicepop

Just more of the lies and bully tactics fron the Democrat Party, all being told the American people by their propaganda machine, thats ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and the others. This is a battle that the Republicans will not be able to win, no matter which way they go on it. The best course of action is to abstain on everything the President and his minions bring up for a vote. The Democrats WILL destroy the economy with all of their socialist financial plans, the abstention will make the death of the economy the sole property of the Democrats and the Obama administration. You cant fight every fight, or win every one you engage in, you need to know when to walk away when you can't win. With our society being made up of more takers than makers, and with the completely complicit "news media", this is a non winable fight, walk away with no fingerprints left at the crime scene. The Democrats are prepared for a fight, they're not prepared for being given the keys to the kingdom, and whatever happens rest solely on their shoulders. No matter what the Republicans do the "news media" will play it out to be their fault, so do nothing and abstain. You can lose a fight with some dignity intact, or lose it being lied about and blamed for the outcome.

The lesser of two weevils?

Carne Frio · 12-01-2012, 02:20 PM

Either way we are hosed.
Let's go off the cliff and
get it over with.

cheesewiz · 12-01-2012, 03:44 PM

This stuff makes me want to hurl ! Get a Job ! It's been over a year or two for some of them , and that's not including the EBT card for $$$ at food marts and the best grocery stores ! My wife works in the business and they eat much better than you and I ! NO WORK NO PAY ! Enough is enough . Raise the tax rate 100 % it won't touch the give aways .....

cycloneman · 12-01-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jedwil

It's only beginning...........

I keep hearing this, its only the beginning. When does it officioally start?

crystalphoto · 12-01-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cycloneman

I keep hearing this, its only the beginning. When does it officioally start?

January 20, 2009...

12-01-2012, 01:16 PM	#2
tango1niner V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: rural upstate NY Posts: 60	Re: Bait and switch Don't forget another 99 weeks of unemployment. When is this madness going to end. We do not need welfare, we need WORKFARE. STOP the free giveaway programs NOW! You want the money, you have to do something for it, and stop squirting out babies!

12-01-2012, 01:17 PM	#3
jedwil Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country Contributor Posts: 1,922	Re: Bait and switch It's only beginning........... __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." -- John F. Kennedy

12-01-2012, 01:31 PM	#4
Twicepop Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 581	Re: Bait and switch Just more of the lies and bully tactics fron the Democrat Party, all being told the American people by their propaganda machine, thats ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and the others. This is a battle that the Republicans will not be able to win, no matter which way they go on it. The best course of action is to abstain on everything the President and his minions bring up for a vote. The Democrats WILL destroy the economy with all of their socialist financial plans, the abstention will make the death of the economy the sole property of the Democrats and the Obama administration. You cant fight every fight, or win every one you engage in, you need to know when to walk away when you can't win. With our society being made up of more takers than makers, and with the completely complicit "news media", this is a non winable fight, walk away with no fingerprints left at the crime scene. The Democrats are prepared for a fight, they're not prepared for being given the keys to the kingdom, and whatever happens rest solely on their shoulders. No matter what the Republicans do the "news media" will play it out to be their fault, so do nothing and abstain. You can lose a fight with some dignity intact, or lose it being lied about and blamed for the outcome.

12-01-2012, 02:20 PM	#6
Carne Frio Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Near Fairbanks Posts: 698	Re: Bait and switch Either way we are hosed. Let's go off the cliff and get it over with.

12-01-2012, 03:44 PM	#7
cheesewiz V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 278	Re: Bait and switch This stuff makes me want to hurl ! Get a Job ! It's been over a year or two for some of them , and that's not including the EBT card for $$$ at food marts and the best grocery stores ! My wife works in the business and they eat much better than you and I ! NO WORK NO PAY ! Enough is enough . Raise the tax rate 100 % it won't touch the give aways ..... Last edited by cheesewiz; 12-01-2012 at 08:16 PM..