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I'm looking at getting a .410 shotgun for my wife, kind of an "under the bed" gun if she's home alone and something happens and she needs to "make some noise" if you know what I mean.
She has a western style six shooter .22LR/.22MAG with the .22MAG cylinder in now but I want another shotgun around. (mine are a bit big for her, 5' 1" maybe size) I'm just starting my search now and open to ideas, I've also had good luck buying used before -but- new, used, whatever.
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Here you go mjp.
BUCK SHOT: Winchester makes a .410 buckshot load in a 2 ½ inch shell containing three "triple-ought" or 000 buck shot. The 000 buck is .360 in diameter, weighs 71 grains, and the first pellet out of the two shells which I chronographed out of a Remington Model 870 with 25 inch barrel crossed the chronograph screens at slightly above 1250 fps with a muzzle energy of nearly 250 ft. lbs. The other pellets were no doubt going nearly as fast. That gives three pellets each with as much energy as a standard .38 special police load, and a total energy of 750 ft. lbs. That would have to be quite effective. I would not want to get shot with that. |
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.410, I'd probably stick with an O/U or SxS, those little shells don't feed all that reliably compared to 20 or 12g.
The one I have for skeet (Verona O/U) is a bit long for HD but it is certainly light and easy to handle. load her up with some OOO buck 3" shells to get rid of the riff-raff
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What about the PDX rounds that were developed for the Judge and Governor?
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yeah, those things look pretty effective. I've not played with them yet though, a little pricey.
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Still going to look around for a deal, some quality .410s are really pricey, I'll settle for less.I was first thinking about 000 but that Win PDX does sound nasty! ...Highly effective in both shotguns and 410 compatible handguns, the PDX1 in 410 gauge features a distinctive black hull and black oxide high-base head and combines three plated Defense Disc™ projectiles and 12 pellets of plated BB shot. The result is the ideal personal protection load for short range engagement with the performance needed to stop threats. This load is also suitable for varmint hunting and pest control. Designed for use in the Taurus Judge, this new personal defense round provides maximum protection at close range... |
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Oh I brought this up to my wife and at first she was skeptical -but- like I told her there's something secure or maybe just scary having a double bbl in your hands....even a dumb bad guy knows he's not getting away from getting hit with something!
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If shes a small built gall check out the mossberg bantam, super bantam and youth models that are smaller and lighter with shorter LOP then standard long guns. And the cast with some model can be under 300 dollars lgs. Heres a model adaptable model.
http://www.mossberg.com/product/shot...-purpose/50358 |
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I thought about a youth model Mossberg .410 pump
not long ago and wanted a pistol grip for it. I don't remember exactly what I discovered.....but best of my memory one fit it. Whether it was the same as the Model 500 or not, the Pachmayr or Hogue.....???? But I seem to think it was available. I have SXS's [12/410] and a 500[12ga] w/pistol grip but thought a 410 pump would be a good addition.
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For effective two legged critter control a 20 would be better but if you are going the .410 route then may I suggest Mossberg 505 with 20" barrel, ideal for an under bed gun. Pair it with sights and a small light. Load it with slugs instead of buck shot and she won't have to shoot twice very often.
lightweight and can carry (5) 3" shells or (6) 2 1/2" shells. Boogerman won't notice the difference at in house ranges.
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I have a 20ga, 12ga but a .410 might fit here. Dear Santa.... ![]() |
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I'm not a big fan of pistol grip pump shotguns, but a .410 might not be
too bad. Mossberg made the model HS410. Pistol grips fore and aft, goofy belled muzzle. Kind of a cute little unit. |
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How about the Mossberg 510 mini? It's available in 4:10. Under $400.
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Have any of you guys owned or used one in .410? Like it? |
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Mine is an old Mossberg Model 183KE bolt action and 3 shots with an adjustable choke. I first shot it a couple of years ago at frozen bottles of water with 4-O buck and slugs at 8 yards and was surprised and impressed. I have the choke set at full and I can keep all my slugs, (all 3 of them), in the scoring ring of a 50 yard small bore target at 25 yards. Not exactly rifle accurate and I am sure a better shot gunner than me could do better but at in house ranges a boogerman wouldn't want anybody in my house using that gun on him. A pump action or semi auto with double the number of rounds would be pure wicked.
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.410 and 12ga Coachguns
Mossberg 500 w/Pachmayr
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Of course, there is always the choice
of a lever action .410 http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...RANDE+410+Blue Or a revolver rifle .410/.45colt http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...UDGE+45410+SYN These Circuit Judges are really nice..... I've wanted one since their inception....
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Bolt action 3 shot and I've had a lot of fun with it, shot or slugs, even took it hunting, got a rabbit on my 1st shot! My two gun nut buddies that day never got a shot off, one with a fine Mossberg, the other a Rem 1100 3" mag...he got so pizzed off he emptied it into a tree before we left. I did get to shoot it later when we went plinking targets...great gun. OH back to .410, a lot of people are getting them for home security or plinking, might fit my little wife well....or me. ![]() Last edited by mjp28; 12-04-2012 at 03:25 PM.. |
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I have a little single shot .410 snakecharmer that I leave for the wife. She has only fired it one time - killed a plastic "tote" bucket in my closet several years ago!!
Sorry about the size of the picture!
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