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Old 12-07-2012, 10:23 PM   #26
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I don't really dislike them. In fact, I actually feel sorry for them.
They are a product of their own education. They do not have the ability to find out the facts on their own.
All they know to do is follow their leader.


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Old 12-08-2012, 05:28 AM   #27
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Firearms have always been a part of our heritage and go hand in hand with freedom. Our forefathers knew the importance of firearms. Anti's are the way they are because of ignorance. Perhaps if they found that firearms can be the source of enjoyment they would have a different attitude.
I had a chance this past summer to do just that. We had family from Cali. visit. They had their sons in their late teens with them. We shot clays in the back yard. The brother-in-law doesn't like guns and the sister-in-law feels the same way. They did not approve. However they allowed the boys to shoot.
After awhile the B-I-L said " that looks like fun " and tried it, S-I-L did as well. I don't know if that might have changed their attitude about firearms but they did enjoy shooting clay birds.
If nothing else, it is a start.
People's opinions are changed by personal experience---not by someone trying to verbally convince them.

I was raised with guns but married into a family that was anti-gun.

After years of hearing how guns are only made to kill people and how the world would be better off without them, my stepdaughter's son got old enough to start wanting to go hunting. The mom wanted me to "teach him about gun safety" which I did.

Then later she began having trouble with her ex-husband and feared he was about to do them harm. She and my wife implored me to go over with a gun and protect her, which I did.

Now when we get in the car my wife sometimes asks me if I am packing (I am), and she says, "Good!"

They have come to understand that guns are like a lug wrench and spare tire in the trunk---there in case you need them.

The opposite can happen, too. A guy in town had guns and one of his little boys shot another of his little boys in the head with a .44 magnum. He got rid of all his guns (too late).

But only personal experience will change someone's mind.
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:49 PM   #28
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I dont like anti gunners period. Dont like the way they look, think, act, talk, and dont like their politics. They make me sick. So as far as I am concerned, they are my enemy. I think they are a bunch of idiots. Stick around, I might tell you how I really feel....
Yet again i'll agree with DD. This is what I think of them also.
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:31 PM   #29
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I have avoided this thread because it raises my blood pressure, but here I go.

Anti-gunners suck!!!! They are the ones that voted for obama. They are the ones that make it possable to have anti gun laws made. They are the ones that will roll over in times of trouble and give their freedoms up. They are the spineless ones that become brainwashed. They are why crime rates are high. They are why I am looked down on for being a gun owner. There was a time when going into a gun shop was the norm and porn shops were looked down on. Now it's a crime to have a gun shop in certain areas of cities and towns and porn shops are the norm. They are the reasons that prisons provide better meals then I eat, and they are the reason the inmates have TV's and internet. They are the reason that we have welfare out of control in our country. They are the reason we can't spank our kids. They are the reason I am losing my liberties of freedom of speaking the name of Jesus Christ in public.

Anti gunners stand for everything that I don't believe in. The last time I checked I love my brothers but these people are not my brothers. In this country we are brainwashed to not use the word hate.

I hate everything they stand for. I can't stand any one of them!!!
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:50 PM   #30
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Well, I'm not anti-gunners. But I am anti loosing. The anti gun crowd seems to me to be pro loosing. No thanks.

I suspect that the Neanderthals were anti atlatl also, and look what that got them.
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:57 PM   #31
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Gun people pull their 6 inch revolver out of the safe, rub it and admire the workmanship. Gun haters pull out their penises, admire it and look for a woman to rape. That;s why I don't like liberals.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:14 AM   #32
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What I dislike about them is trying to push it on you and from when I see they no nothing about guns or are afraid of them as if it was going to magical shoot by it self. I know if most would just go to a range and shoot they would love it.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:47 AM   #33
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I have avoided this thread because it raises my blood pressure, but here I go.

Anti-gunners suck!!!! They are the ones that voted for obama. They are the ones that make it possable to have anti gun laws made. They are the ones that will roll over in times of trouble and give their freedoms up. They are the spineless ones that become brainwashed. They are why crime rates are high. They are why I am looked down on for being a gun owner. There was a time when going into a gun shop was the norm and porn shops were looked down on. Now it's a crime to have a gun shop in certain areas of cities and towns and porn shops are the norm. They are the reasons that prisons provide better meals then I eat, and they are the reason the inmates have TV's and internet. They are the reason that we have welfare out of control in our country. They are the reason we can't spank our kids. They are the reason I am losing my liberties of freedom of speaking the name of Jesus Christ in public.

Anti gunners stand for everything that I don't believe in. The last time I checked I love my brothers but these people are not my brothers. In this country we are brainwashed to not use the word hate.

I hate everything they stand for. I can't stand any one of them!!!
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You took the words out of my mouth. They are the ones that take all of our freedoms away if they don't agree with you!!! Also most of these types don't like guns because they can't control their temper or impulses and think everyone is like them ( if you get mad at someone you will just shoot them).
Could go on for pages but my blood pressure can't take it!!
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:37 AM   #34
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1. They are ignorant of the world around them.
2. They are arrogent.
3. They preach acceptance, then are the first to point fingers and scream for banning.
4. They don't have any facts for their arguments.
5. When you present facts the scream RACIEST.
6. They are ignornant.
7. They smell like pot and piss.
8. They have never fired a shot in their lives.
9. They get 100% of their gun education from TV and Movies. Where a 22lr is a Long range sniper round in a 10/22 (CSI Miami) The see people getting blown back 10 feet when shot with a bow and arrow (Revolution), they see people with unending ammo in movies and think that every gun can shoot for 2 hours straight with out reloading, They thing anything with a scope on it is a sniper rifle. They think hollow point bullets are ment to explode and blow you in half. They think a 9mm can shoot through a D9 dozer blade.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:51 AM   #35
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I don't really dislike them. In fact, I actually feel sorry for them.
They are a product of their own education. They do not have the ability to find out the facts on their own.
All they know to do is follow their leader.

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To feel sorry implies empathy, and I don't have any empathy for those who will not weigh the facts and see the truth, but instead rely upon the unreasonable emotion of mob-mentality.

It seems to me that this "movement" gained a real footing when military service became voluntary right after Vietnam. It had a footing before WWII, but the attack of Pearl Harbor shook them to their collective senses.

Somehow 9/11 failed to do that..
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Do I like anti-gunners? Nah. But I have an additional reason to the obvious. After I was fired from my job of 23 yrs. due to an antique rifle behind the seat of my truck while on company property I realized the extreme reach non gunnies could achieve. Non gun people just don't get it. A lot of people don't "get" a lot of what is going on. Am I mad at them for not "getting" it? Not really. We are all different in many ways. BUT...when your "not getting" it gives you the ability to ignore the Constitution and get away with it, and negatively impact this law abiding citizens life, well, that's a bit different. I could not buy a decent job for two years after the incident. Of course, I did kind of go public and help get a new law passed in Indiana. But the fact is that I should not have had to go through what I went through to simply follow the Constitution! So I don't dislike them because they are uninformed or unpatriotic. I dislike them because their ignorance can negatively impact our life and our families in an everyday fashion. They can truly hurt us as individuals, families, and as a Country in ways we do not readily see. God Bless all you Second Amendment Brothers. ---Matt
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:50 PM   #37
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If someone is anti gun, chances are we prolly don't agree on many things.
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I don't dislike anti-gunners. I respect, though disagree with, their opinion. I detest anti-gunners who try to transform their sincere but irrational beliefs into policy.
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You're all wrong. The anti-gunners know exactly what they are doing. They are working to disarm and criminalize anyone with firearms, because until they can disarm the population, they can't control people. I remember many years ago, just after WW2 ended. My high school had a 73% Jewish student body. We were lousy in sports but very high in academics. At one assembly our speaker was a survuvor of Bergen-Belsen. When asked why the Jews didn't fight, she said "BUT WE HAD NO GUNS"! And that's their agenda! The potential dictator in the White House has already said he will bypass Congress and find a way around the Constitution so he can "DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO". Our form of government is based on the idea that reasonable men will compromise to work for the benefit of all the people. It's Oboma's way or no way. When will he declare his dictatorship? Perhaps after he has destroyed the economy and bankrupted the Nation?
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How many Liberals and Antigun Democrats are there in the bottom of the ocean? ANSWER- Not enough.
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To feel sorry implies empathy, and I don't have any empathy for those who will not weigh the facts and see the truth, but instead rely upon the unreasonable emotion of mob-mentality.

It seems to me that this "movement" gained a real footing when military service became voluntary right after Vietnam. It had a footing before WWII, but the attack of Pearl Harbor shook them to their collective senses.

Somehow 9/11 failed to do that..

Excellent point. And think of how dangerous this makes these people.
Nothing is more dangerous than a mass od stupid and willing accomplices.

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You're all wrong. The anti-gunners know exactly what they are doing. They are working to disarm and criminalize anyone with firearms, because until they can disarm the population, they can't control people. I remember many years ago, just after WW2 ended. My high school had a 73% Jewish student body. We were lousy in sports but very high in academics. At one assembly our speaker was a survuvor of Bergen-Belsen. When asked why the Jews didn't fight, she said "BUT WE HAD NO GUNS"! And that's their agenda! The potential dictator in the White House has already said he will bypass Congress and find a way around the Constitution so he can "DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO". Our form of government is based on the idea that reasonable men will compromise to work for the benefit of all the people. It's Oboma's way or no way. When will he declare his dictatorship? Perhaps after he has destroyed the economy and bankrupted the Nation?
I'm not wrong. There are many factions to the Anti's, not all are leaders of it.
But they would gain no traction but for the ignorant and emotional nannies.
You know, the same ones who voted in the current administration?
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I don't dislike anti-gunners per se. I do dislike their attempts to MAKE me conform to their point of view!
That's near to the heart of it for me.

If you want to try to keep guns out of your home, away from your family, and so on, that's your business. Good luck. But don't scream for me to give up mine; it ain't going to happen.

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If someone is anti gun, chances are we prolly don't agree on many things.
That's my answer to people who complain that those for whom gun rights are important are "single-issue voters." I think a person's 2nd Amendment stance is a great litmus test, an indicator of how that person is likely to lean on other issues.

Do they believe in the importance of individual rights? Do they think control is more important? Do they believe it's the government's prerogative to step in and insist, "you should let us handle that?" Do they trust citizens to bear arms, or do they distrust citizens?

Ask them about the 2nd, and you'll have a good idea of the answers to all those questions and more.

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That's near to the heart of it for me.

If you want to try to keep guns out of your home, away from your family, and so on, that's your business. Good luck. But don't scream for me to give up mine; it ain't going to happen.


That's my answer to people who complain that those for whom gun rights are important are "single-issue voters." I think a person's 2nd Amendment stance is a great litmus test, an indicator of how that person is likely to lean on other issues.

Do they believe in the importance of individual rights? Do they think control is more important? Do they believe it's the government's prerogative to step in and insist, "you should let us handle that?" Do they trust citizens to bear arms, or do they distrust citizens?

Ask them about the 2nd, and you'll have a good idea of the answers to all those questions and more.
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That is how I look at the politicians, if they are anti-gun they will be anti-freedom.
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i dont like anti gun people because of this whole guns kill people thing.this idea that "its everyone and everythings fault but my own" is the reason this country is going down the tubes. the idea that its the guns fault, or the high capacity magazines fault and they should be banned is beyond ridiculous. The only reason the govt wants to ban these things or make it so hard to get its not even worth it, is because they dont make enough money on it to justify the risk of lives. More people die every year because of cigarettes/tobacco, than INSANE people with big bad black guns (anything black in color the media labels as 'assault') but because they make BIG money on tobacco tax, they justify the death toll. For every 1 insane loser with a gun and a bad idea, there are 10,000 perfectly normal civilians that abide by the crappy laws our socialist government has pushed on us. but im going to be punished because of these morons. every shooting of innocent people is nothing short of a tragedy, but leave it at that. you cannot protect people from every possible negative event in life. no matter how many laws you make, people will get guns, people will get 10k rounds of ammo, and people will use it on other people. The crazies will always find a way to be crazy. im going to continue to buy and stock pile ammo every paycheck. and im going to keep on filling the gun cabinet. NOT because im some crazy moron, but because its my RIGHT.
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I must confess; I didn't spend my monthly allotment on bullets this month, I bought several movies on sale @ Target instead.
I'll get back on track again next month.
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Gun people pull their 6 inch revolver out of the safe, rub it and admire the workmanship. Gun haters pull out their penises, admire it and look for a woman to rape. That;s why I don't like liberals.
If the anti-gun/pro-gun control types win, it's because their arguments will be far more sophisticated (content as well as effective use of the language) than the kind of childish drivel way too many gun owners like to spout, of which the above is just one example. If we're going to win the anti-gun wars, we have to do better than this. The winning side talks issues; the losing side will be still be in the name-calling, shopworn slogan-spewing mode.

BTW, I'm pretty liberal in many respects and find the above not only wrong but so stereotypically simpleminded and comical that it's hard to be offended by it.

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If the anti-gun/pro-gun control types win, it's because their arguments are far more sophisticated (content as well as effective use of the language) than the kind of childish drivel way too many gun owners like to spout, of which the above is just one example. If we're going to win the anti-gun wars, we have to do better than this. The winning side talks issues; the losing side will be still be in the name-calling mode.

BTW, I'm pretty liberal in many respects and find the above not only wrong but so stereotypically simpleminded and comical that it's hard to be offended by it.
I am personally offended by his post; but, it is no way stereotypical of the vast,vast majority of gunowners.
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If the anti-gun,pro-gun control crowd wins in the end it will be because the end has really arrived. The anti-gunners continue to be opportunistic,tragedy mongers who use their verbose tongues to spread lies,misinformation,disinformation and worn out nonsensical mantras. The liberal mass media loves victims(liberals,anti-gunners) because they sell advertising and increase their ratings. Poor little things have a real mental disorder and irrational fear of independent thinkers who take personal responsibility for their behaviors rather than relying on the grub-er-in-mint and the media to tell them how they should behave. I think for myself and dislike any liberal who try to tell me their way,their attitude and their beliefs and actions are better(elitist) than mine. Liberals don't debate they grovel.
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