The Firearms Forum - Gun Community  
TheFirearmsForum.com
FOUNDED: February 9, 2001
If you prefer to make a donation by check,
send an email to Support for the mailing address.

Go Back   The Firearms Forum - Gun Community > Member Discussions > The Fire For Effect and Totally Politically Incorrect Forum

Notices


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-09-2012, 09:33 AM   #1
GunnyGene
Advanced Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,962
Default Will a deal get done?

Will a deal that doesn't trash the US economy (and our personal finances )be agreed to before the end of the year? It's not looking good.

Quote:
Washington (CNN) -– The head of the International Monetary Fund warned that the American economy won’t grow next year without a deal on the fiscal cliff.

Chistine Lagarde, the managing director of the IMF, spoke to CNN’s Candy Crowley on “State of the Union” about the consequences of the president and Congress failing to reach a comprehensive deal on the automatic spending cuts and tax hikes that would occur without an agreement before the end of the year.

“If the U.S. economy was to suffer the downside risk of not reaching a comprehensive deal, then growth would be zero,” she said. “It would be much better to actually have a more comprehensive approach and to deal with all the issues.”

U.S. gross domestic product grew at an annual rate of 2.7 percent in the third quarter of 2012, according to the Department of Commerce. Going over the fiscal cliff could jeopardize economic growth and put the United States back into a recession.

“The real threat that we have at the moment is really here with us,” Lagarde said when asked about the biggest threat outside the United States. “That can be addressed.”

A former finance minister of France who has been working to stabilize the European economy since taking office in July, Lagarde pressed for a comprehensive solution in lieu of a temporary one that Congress may negotiate before the end of the year.

“I don't think [a temporary fix] is enough because there is still that degree of uncertainty that fuels doubt that prevents investors, entrepreneurs, households from making decisions, because they don't know what tomorrow will be,” she said. “They know that a fix has been found for today. But there is still work to be done tomorrow and the day after tomorrow.”

Lagarde predicted the immediate aftermath would cause a “lack of confidence; markets, I think, would react very quickly… the stock markets really taking a hit.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...eal/?hpt=hp_t1

-->
GunnyGene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 09:53 AM   #2
TotheTop83
V.I.P. Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Southwestern PA
Posts: 108
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

Since the sides are so far apart and we're so polarized, I doubt there'll be a deal. There will be a temporary fix to push the fiscal cliff back another year or so. Then we'll deal with all this crap again, except the cliff will be bigger and our credit rating will be even lower.

Prove me wrong, congress.
TotheTop83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 09:56 AM   #3
whirley
V.I.P. Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Contributor
Posts: 457
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

Take the cliff. The other half is MANDATORY spending cuts which Obozo doesn't want, so threatens to cut soc. secutiry and medicare. It's all White House BULL socks. The Washington bureauaucracy is so bloated, it could easily be cut back by 200 billion annually, and we'd never hear a burp. All departments get an automatic increase of 8% annually whether they need it or not. Jimmy Carter started a new group to free us from foreign oil. Still no solution in more than 30 years, but an annual budget of over 26 billion. Washington is FAT CITY!
whirley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 10:05 AM   #4
steve4102
Former Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Minnesota
Contributor
Posts: 2,760
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

Quote:
Originally Posted by whirley View Post
Take the cliff. The other half is MANDATORY spending cuts which Obozo doesn't want, so threatens to cut soc. secutiry and medicare. It's all White House BULL socks. The Washington bureauaucracy is so bloated, it could easily be cut back by 200 billion annually, and we'd never hear a burp. All departments get an automatic increase of 8% annually whether they need it or not. Jimmy Carter started a new group to free us from foreign oil. Still no solution in more than 30 years, but an annual budget of over 26 billion. Washington is FAT CITY!
Agreed, but they won't.

If they do, then the Media and Obama will blame the Republicans and 2014 will be another Democrat landslide victory.
steve4102 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 11:53 AM   #5
WHSmithIV
Advanced Senior Member
 
WHSmithIV's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Moore, Idaho
contributor
Posts: 2,630
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

The very simple answer to the question is No.
WHSmithIV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 02:31 PM   #6
gvw3
Advanced Senior Member
 
gvw3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Chicago IL Area
Contributor
Posts: 3,297
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

It's a win win for the democrats. No deal they just blame the republicans. If the republicans do make a deal they will sell out the people that have supported them.
__________________
Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.
gvw3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 03:44 PM   #7
cheesewiz
V.I.P. Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 278
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

Thelma to Louise ......Punch It ! Let's go .......please !
cheesewiz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 04:24 PM   #8
norahc
Advanced Senior Member
 
norahc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Small town 150 miles from Canada where 90% of population speaks Spanish.
Posts: 1,785
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gvw3 View Post
It's a win win for the democrats. No deal they just blame the republicans. If the republicans do make a deal they will sell out the people that have supported them.
A lot of people seem to think that, but I was reading an article last week that made a persuasive point that this could come back and bite the dems in the a$$. If I find a link to it again, I'll post it.
__________________
Murphy was an optimist.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spokane Councilman Steve Salvatori
Some battles are fought for principle and some battles are fought for dollars. When you fight for principles you fight until hell freezes over and then you fight on the ice.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunningOnMT View Post
Every tyranny begins with a good excuse.
norahc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 09:34 PM   #9
Twicepop
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 581
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

Don't make any deals with them, go in and cast an abstention vote or merely vote present and leave. Don't give them anything that they can use against you later. If they are hell-bent on destroying the economy, let them do it without your fingerprints left at the crime scene. With no Republican involvement in this fiasco, even the dumbest of them will eventually have to place the blame on the Democrats for their financial woes.
Twicepop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-09-2012, 10:01 PM   #10
markfh
V.I.P. Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 200
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesewiz View Post
Thelma to Louise ......Punch It ! Let's go .......please !
Ditto... I've got gold, silver and lead. I'm ready.
markfh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2012, 06:41 AM   #11
XP100
V.I.P. Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 74
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

Republicans need to put an offer on the table NOT changing anything. Then when BHO rejects it no one can blame the Rebublicans. Only one they can blame is Obama.
XP100 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2012, 08:03 AM   #12
carver
*TFF Moderator/Host*
 
carver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA
Contributor
Posts: 11,280
Default Re: Will a deal get done?

The Demoncat's want the Republican'ts to come up with nothing. Does the American people understand what Obozo, and crew will do to this nation if they have no restraints/budget? My fear is that the Republican'ts want the same thing as the Demoncat's!
__________________
Y'all be safe now, ya hear!

Lamentations Chapter 5:
1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach.
2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens.
3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows.
5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest.
16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned!
21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.
carver is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:09 AM.

STILL SEARCHING FOR SOMETHING? TRY THE TFF "GOOGLE" SEARCH ENGINE BELOW!
Google

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2002 - 2013, TheFirearmsForum.Com