The New Pledge .... From A 15 Year Old . - The Firearms Forum

JohnHenry · 12-05-2012, 05:05 PM

BY A 15 yr. OLD SCHOOL KID
who got an A+ for this entry
(TOTALLY AWESOME)!
Since the Pledge of Allegiance
And The Lord's Prayer IS NOT ALLOWED in Public schools anymore
Because the word 'God' is mentioned
A kid in Arizona wrote the attached NEW School prayer:

"New Pledge of Allegiance"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.

If scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.

Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene..
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all..
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the state.

We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks...
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.
It's 'inappropriate' to teach right from wrong,
We're taught that such 'judgments' do not belong..

We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles..
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.

It's scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen

If you aren't ashamed to do this, Please pass this on..
Jesus said, 'If you are ashamed of me, I will be ashamed of you before my Father.'

~~~~~~~~~~~AWESOME~~~~~~~~~~

woolleyworm · 12-05-2012, 05:08 PM

so very true, I am going to have my kids read this one.

Airdale · 12-05-2012, 05:09 PM

AWSOME it is

jedwil · 12-05-2012, 05:32 PM

Well done.

lonewolf204 · 12-05-2012, 05:47 PM

Very well written!

dad2thebone · 12-05-2012, 06:04 PM

And from a 15 year old! Could be hopefor us yet.

Old Grump · 12-05-2012, 07:08 PM

Copied, stored and soon to be passed on to everybody I know.

12-06-2012, 05:13 AM

Could religion thrive without the incessant yammering about the fabricated "war on religion," this time in the form of a simplistic, pandering alternate "pledge?"

Dirtypacman · 12-06-2012, 09:13 AM

Amen!

Old Grump · 12-06-2012, 12:11 PM

That was from 2002 and this poem was written in response to that one.

The Separation of Church and State

Now I sit me down in school
Where organized prayer's against the rule

For this great nation, under law
Its founders, a great vision they saw

Though most were Christian, they all knew
The importance of religious freedom too

And so they erected a great wall
To guarantee freedom of thought for all

For the separation of church and state
Is partly what makes this nation great

It's not as if the founders thought
That religion itself should not be taught

And it's not as if they meant to say
That people should not be allowed to pray

But they knew there should be a separate place
Where all could learn without saying grace

That teachers should teach us to read and write
While preachers and parents extol God's might

Some people think kids have gotten worse
Because teachers don't make them say enough verse

What they don't understand is the reason they're bad
Is the lack of discipline from mom and dad

But the puzzling thing is all this fuss
Over something that was taught to each one of us

Perhaps those who don't understand the rule
Should have prayed less and studied more in school

-- Jeff Schrepfer --

flashman2002 · 12-06-2012, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Grump

That was from 2002 and this poem was written in response to that one.

The Separation of Church and State

Now I sit me down in school
Where organized prayer's against the rule

For this great nation, under law
Its founders, a great vision they saw

Though most were Christian, they all knew
The importance of religious freedom too

And so they erected a great wall
To guarantee freedom of thought for all

For the separation of church and state
Is partly what makes this nation great

It's not as if the founders thought
That religion itself should not be taught

And it's not as if they meant to say
That people should not be allowed to pray

But they knew there should be a separate place
Where all could learn without saying grace

That teachers should teach us to read and write
While preachers and parents extol God's might

Some people think kids have gotten worse
Because teachers don't make them say enough verse

What they don't understand is the reason they're bad
Is the lack of discipline from mom and dad

But the puzzling thing is all this fuss
Over something that was taught to each one of us

Perhaps those who don't understand the rule
Should have prayed less and studied more in school

-- Jeff Schrepfer --

I was just going to post this. The first poem may have been written by a 15 yo student way back when, but this second poem address the actual constitutionality of church/state separation. I am not religious but I don't care if someone wants to f-all with theirs. To me it isn't offensive because that is their right, same as it is all of our rights to believe in whatever we do. To many people get hung up on stuff isn't right, well, I wish people would just stop having an opinion on everything. What John does in Idaho for a religious thing shouldnt matter to the asshats in Wisconsin that bring legions of non-believers to town to protest and say you can't do this. Go back home dick and stay there. That's my opinion. Rant over.

Old Grump · 12-06-2012, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashman2002

I was just going to post this. The first poem may have been written by a 15 yo student way back when, but this second poem address the actual constitutionality of church/state separation. I am not religious but I don't care if someone wants to f-all with theirs. To me it isn't offensive because that is their right, same as it is all of our rights to believe in whatever we do. To many people get hung up on stuff isn't right, well, I wish people would just stop having an opinion on everything. What John does in Idaho for a religious thing shouldnt matter to the asshats in Wisconsin that bring legions of non-believers to town to protest and say you can't do this. Go back home dick and stay there. That's my opinion. Rant over.

Most of us in Wisconsin want nothing to do with them either, it is a small liberal hate group from Madison home of libertines and liberals and other maggot like creatures.

aa1911 · 12-06-2012, 06:25 PM

Very cool

I'm not religious and I even got pissed off when the pledge of allegience got banished or modified at an increasing number of schools and other places.

I said it every morning in school and I don't see why we still shouldn't. (the full version, with God and all, not some hacked, censored version)

The people that can cry over the 'God' part of our pledge can suck it.

There's also a lot of people who scrutinize the pledge for the "...to the flag.." part saying why do we pledge to a flag, some object? My SIL asked this at a family gathering and I answered that it's NOT a pledge to the flag. It's a pledge to what the flag REPRESENTS, our great nation. Look beyond the literal sense, cripes.

Official versions
(changes in bold italics)
1892
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
1892 to 1923
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
1923 to 1924
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States and to the Republic for which it stands: one Nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
1924 to 1954
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
1954 to Present
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

flashman2002 · 12-06-2012, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Grump

Most of us in Wisconsin want nothing to do with them either, it is a small liberal hate group from Madison home of libertines and liberals and other maggot like creatures.

I was just using Wisconsin as a reference, not that all of you in Wisconsin like them lol. These groups are all over the US. Just like the idiots here in Kansas that like to protest military funerals. We were told to beware earlier in the year because they were going to be in my area to protest a funeral. Had the local high school on an elevated alert for stupid people activity. That is the unfortunate aspect of freedom of speech, to bad it is going so far now that it is limiting those that believe in something.

Old Grump · 12-06-2012, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashman2002

I was just using Wisconsin as a reference, not that all of you in Wisconsin like them lol. These groups are all over the US. Just like the idiots here in Kansas that like to protest military funerals. We were told to beware earlier in the year because they were going to be in my area to protest a funeral. Had the local high school on an elevated alert for stupid people activity. That is the unfortunate aspect of freedom of speech, to bad it is going so far now that it is limiting those that believe in something.

I wasn't taking it personal, I just happen to know the group and you really don't want to know what I really think about them or what I think should happen to the fly larvae that they are. We call Madison Berkley East because it happens first there and then Berkley copies the liberal silliness.

flashman2002 · 12-06-2012, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Grump

I wasn't taking it personal, I just happen to know the group and you really don't want to know what I really think about them or what I think should happen to the fly larvae that they are. We call Madison Berkley East because it happens first there and then Berkley copies the liberal silliness.

I know you weren't taking it personal. Just to many crazy people out there.

12-05-2012, 05:05 PM	#1
JohnHenry Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Livingston county, Michigan Posts: 1,218	The New Pledge .... From A 15 Year Old . BY A 15 yr. OLD SCHOOL KID who got an A+ for this entry (TOTALLY AWESOME)! Since the Pledge of Allegiance And The Lord's Prayer IS NOT ALLOWED in Public schools anymore Because the word 'God' is mentioned A kid in Arizona wrote the attached NEW School prayer: "New Pledge of Allegiance" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now I sit me down in school Where praying is against the rule For this great nation under God Finds mention of Him very odd. If scripture now the class recites, It violates the Bill of Rights. And anytime my head I bow Becomes a Federal matter now. Our hair can be purple, orange or green, That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.. The law is specific, the law is precise. Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice. For praying in a public hall Might offend someone with no faith at all.. In silence alone we must meditate, God's name is prohibited by the state. We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks, And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks... They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible. To quote the Good Book makes me liable. We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen, And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King. It's 'inappropriate' to teach right from wrong, We're taught that such 'judgments' do not belong.. We can get our condoms and birth controls, Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.. But the Ten Commandments are not allowed, No word of God must reach this crowd. It's scary here I must confess, When chaos reigns the school's a mess. So, Lord, this silent plea I make: Should I be shot; My soul please take! Amen If you aren't ashamed to do this, Please pass this on.. Jesus said, 'If you are ashamed of me, I will be ashamed of you before my Father.' ~~~~~~~~~~~AWESOME~~~~~~~~~~ __________________ Freedom .... Is Never Free ! We need Term Limits .... Send the "Professional Politicians" home . -->

12-05-2012, 05:08 PM	#2
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,883	Re: The New Pledge .... From A 15 Year Old . so very true, I am going to have my kids read this one. __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." .

12-05-2012, 05:09 PM	#3
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12-05-2012, 05:32 PM	#4
jedwil Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country Contributor Posts: 1,922	Re: The New Pledge .... From A 15 Year Old . Well done. __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." -- John F. Kennedy

12-05-2012, 05:47 PM	#5
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12-05-2012, 06:04 PM	#6
dad2thebone Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,357	Re: The New Pledge .... From A 15 Year Old . And from a 15 year old! Could be hopefor us yet. __________________ 9-11-01 we will never forget.And then we have dec 7 now it's Nov 6th all sad days for our country. And dont whizz on my leg then tell me it's raining.

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Old Grump Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin Posts: 2,290	Re: The New Pledge .... From A 15 Year Old . Copied, stored and soon to be passed on to everybody I know. __________________ "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."~~- Thomas Jefferson Roman Catholic, Life Member of American Legion, VFW, Wisconsin Libertarian party, Wi-FORCE, WGO, NRA, JPFO, GOA, SAFand CCRKBA

12-06-2012, 05:13 AM	#8
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12-06-2012, 12:11 PM	#10
Old Grump Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin Posts: 2,290	Re: The New Pledge .... From A 15 Year Old . That was from 2002 and this poem was written in response to that one. The Separation of Church and State Now I sit me down in school Where organized prayer's against the rule For this great nation, under law Its founders, a great vision they saw Though most were Christian, they all knew The importance of religious freedom too And so they erected a great wall To guarantee freedom of thought for all For the separation of church and state Is partly what makes this nation great It's not as if the founders thought That religion itself should not be taught And it's not as if they meant to say That people should not be allowed to pray But they knew there should be a separate place Where all could learn without saying grace That teachers should teach us to read and write While preachers and parents extol God's might Some people think kids have gotten worse Because teachers don't make them say enough verse What they don't understand is the reason they're bad Is the lack of discipline from mom and dad But the puzzling thing is all this fuss Over something that was taught to each one of us Perhaps those who don't understand the rule Should have prayed less and studied more in school -- Jeff Schrepfer -- __________________ "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."~~- Thomas Jefferson Roman Catholic, Life Member of American Legion, VFW, Wisconsin Libertarian party, Wi-FORCE, WGO, NRA, JPFO, GOA, SAFand CCRKBA

12-06-2012, 06:25 PM	#13
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,115	Re: The New Pledge .... From A 15 Year Old . Very cool I'm not religious and I even got pissed off when the pledge of allegience got banished or modified at an increasing number of schools and other places. I said it every morning in school and I don't see why we still shouldn't. (the full version, with God and all, not some hacked, censored version) The people that can cry over the 'God' part of our pledge can suck it. There's also a lot of people who scrutinize the pledge for the "...to the flag.." part saying why do we pledge to a flag, some object? My SIL asked this at a family gathering and I answered that it's NOT a pledge to the flag. It's a pledge to what the flag REPRESENTS, our great nation. Look beyond the literal sense, cripes. Official versions (changes in bold italics) 1892 "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." 1892 to 1923 "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." 1923 to 1924 "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States and to the Republic for which it stands: one Nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all." 1924 to 1954 "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands; one Nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all." 1954 to Present "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."