The Pre-Revolutionary Origins of the 2nd Amendment - The Firearms Forum

GunnyGene · 12-22-2012, 07:07 AM

Many people are under the impression that the 2nd Amendment was an arbitrary inclusion in the Constitution without historical precedent. Nothing could be further from the truth. The following traces the history of this Amendment from it's origins in the Colonies.

http://ia601204.us.archive.org/14/it...dAmendment.pdf

flintlock · 12-22-2012, 07:26 AM

Excellent link, thanks for posting it.

BulletArc47 · 12-22-2012, 07:32 AM

Very cool. I appreciate the link!

The 2nd Amendment is there as safeguard to prevent tyranny. A warning bell and a right. To protect the common man.

Even now, the US government is being consumed; making policies for the elite, by the elite, from the elite. Whether people want to see it or not political families are modern royalty. The name is different, but their behavior is the same.

GunnyGene · 12-22-2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BulletArc47

Very cool. I appreciate the link!

The 2nd Amendment is there as safeguard to prevent tyranny. A warning bell and a right. To protect the common man.

Correct of course. This treatise provides insight into the historical and legal basis for that right, and also an educational resource when discussing 2nd Amendment issues with those on the left who object to it's existence, or who claim (falsely) that it does not apply in today's world.

firefighter1635 · 12-22-2012, 08:22 AM

I just finished reading it, quite lengthy but EVERY gun owner should take the time to read. It's eye opening to substitute our modern time and what we face with gun control and what our forefathers faced back then. Alot of the same things going on today, chillingly the same actually.

Thanks for a great read Gunny

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carver · 12-22-2012, 08:44 AM

The 2nd Amendment has already fallen. It stands today only because our government has not had the need to delete it form the Constitution. They took away it's power, when they went after the last line in the Constitution, the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. And effectively removed it from the remainder of the document. Precedent was set. They made a list of guns, and other military type weapons, that we could not have, and then passed laws so that the common man could not has access to them. Now all they have to do is add anything they want to that list.

MSGT-R · 12-22-2012, 09:36 AM

I found this on another forum, and I like it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=evEg1VNfX3o

Marlin T · 12-22-2012, 12:30 PM

Here is another web site that has an enormous amount of historical documents that all refer to the Second Amendment.

I don't know how long the Wayback machine keeps these archives, but you better get what you want before they all disappear.

http://web.archive.org/web/200812200...wonthenet.com/

Here is a reminder of who Mr Halbrook is.

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Originally Posted by Marlin T

The thing that really got me was when Halbrook said something like, MR. HALBROOK: “YOUR HONOR, WE ARE HERE WANTING TO REGISTER HANDGUNS. WE ARE NOT HERE WANTING UNRESTRICTED ACCESS. WE'RE NOT HERE ASKING TO CARRY THEM, OTHER THAN IN THE HOME.”

12-22-2012, 07:07 AM	#1
GunnyGene Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,962	The Pre-Revolutionary Origins of the 2nd Amendment Many people are under the impression that the 2nd Amendment was an arbitrary inclusion in the Constitution without historical precedent. Nothing could be further from the truth. The following traces the history of this Amendment from it's origins in the Colonies. http://ia601204.us.archive.org/14/it...dAmendment.pdf -->

12-22-2012, 07:26 AM	#2
flintlock Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Upstate NY Contributor Posts: 896	Re: The Pre-Revolutionary Origins of the 2nd Amendment Excellent link, thanks for posting it.

12-22-2012, 07:32 AM	#3
BulletArc47 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Georgia Posts: 259	Re: The Pre-Revolutionary Origins of the 2nd Amendment Very cool. I appreciate the link! The 2nd Amendment is there as safeguard to prevent tyranny. A warning bell and a right. To protect the common man. Even now, the US government is being consumed; making policies for the elite, by the elite, from the elite. Whether people want to see it or not political families are modern royalty. The name is different, but their behavior is the same. __________________ “Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples’ liberty’s teeth.” – George Washington If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all. – Jacob Hornberger (1995) “Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.” – Mahatma Mohandas K. Gandhi

12-22-2012, 08:22 AM	#5
firefighter1635 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: US of A Contributor Posts: 1,837	Re: The Pre-Revolutionary Origins of the 2nd Amendment I just finished reading it, quite lengthy but EVERY gun owner should take the time to read. It's eye opening to substitute our modern time and what we face with gun control and what our forefathers faced back then. Alot of the same things going on today, chillingly the same actually. Thanks for a great read Gunny . __________________ "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Samuel Adams

12-22-2012, 08:44 AM	#6
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,223	Re: The Pre-Revolutionary Origins of the 2nd Amendment The 2nd Amendment has already fallen. It stands today only because our government has not had the need to delete it form the Constitution. They took away it's power, when they went after the last line in the Constitution, the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed. And effectively removed it from the remainder of the document. Precedent was set. They made a list of guns, and other military type weapons, that we could not have, and then passed laws so that the common man could not has access to them. Now all they have to do is add anything they want to that list. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

12-22-2012, 09:36 AM	#7
MSGT-R Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 898	Re: The Pre-Revolutionary Origins of the 2nd Amendment I found this on another forum, and I like it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=evEg1VNfX3o __________________ If you suck, go back to the range.