The worst three weeks ever - The Firearms Forum

WHSmithIV · 12-08-2012, 08:58 PM

Sorry friends I need to write and vent. Hope you all don't mind.....

On my wife's birthday 3 weeks ago we get a call at 3 AM telling us our oldest daughter is in an ICU because she 'fell' off a 3rd floor balcony in Portland, Or.

So, I make the drive to Portland (10½ hours) with our pickup and our little trailer - pack up her apartment and move her here to Idaho where we can help her. 14½ hours back the next day with 4 hours of sleep in between. Bring her and her 'fiancee' here to Idaho, get them an apartment. She has 7 fractures in 3 of her ribs, 2 fractures in her spine and a lacerated liver. Her bf promises he's going to go to work and take care of her. What's he do - he beats the hell out of her. Now he sits in jail on $50,000 bond and will go to prison for felony aggravated assault. He goes down for 2-5 years. He's lucky he wasn't there when my daughter called me - I took my .45 to kill him. (Deputies weren't concerned about me packing at all - that's because we live in Idaho and we are a gun friendly state).

Then, the washing machine in our house quits - it's only about 14 months old - of course out of warranty by 2 months, the breaker box blows a breaker and I lose my entire computer lab (which I need to make an income), and the hot water heater quits. What a mess.

I still don't know if our daughter was pushed off that balcony, I will find out. If she was pushed - well, there will be payback.

I'm sorry friends - I needed to write this all down to calm my fury.

1 Eyed Jack · 12-08-2012, 10:29 PM

Vent here and get it out, going to jail for the rest of YOUR life over a dirtbag isn't worth it, I know from experience that no matter how bad things may seem at the moment, it can always get worse, quickly, stay in control and don't let it get worse because you made a decision in haste,

pickenup · 12-08-2012, 10:29 PM

I hope things go BETTER for you soon.

Willie · 12-08-2012, 10:36 PM

I would feel as you do. Take a deep breath and know that if you do what you really want to do,it will hurt you family more as you will be gone and no help to them. Better to wait a long time,years maybe,when all have forgotten and moved on and then.......from out of nowhere.............

weaselone · 12-09-2012, 02:10 AM

I know how you feel. My stepdaughter was murdered by a pedophile that hadn't been out of prison for rape in high school it takes everything I got not to do something But here in SC (she was pregnant) He gets to die twice for 2 murders!!!

weaselone · 12-09-2012, 02:12 AM

I meant he hadnt been out of prison for 2 months!

wv hillbilly · 12-09-2012, 06:12 AM

we are here to listen or help
i hope things turn around for you.
i remember several years back we had to replace everything that had an electric cord on it . from the can opener to the tv and all in between

rcairflr · 12-09-2012, 06:46 AM

I hope things improve for you and your daughter.

From the information given, I believe your daughter also needs to start making better decisions in her life and associate herself with better people. We all have to live with the decisions we make, whether they are good or bad.

johnny ringo · 12-09-2012, 06:59 AM

That's a very sad situation. Hope your daughter recovers soon. I've often said that if something like that happened to my family, I'd make sure something fatal happened to the perp when he was released.

gvw3 · 12-09-2012, 07:17 AM

Thank God she is still alive. My son in law beat the hell out of my daughter and she took him back a year ago. You can't make decisions for your kids. Now we don't see her much as she knows I hate her husband.

68c15 · 12-09-2012, 07:19 AM

the washer and stuff takes a sideline compared to your daughter. does she see what mistakes she has made and want to change? take every possible legal matter to keep him away, forever. justice will be served in due time by someone else with more power than you or I could ever imagine

76Highboy · 12-09-2012, 09:12 AM

I complely understand, however try not to put threats into words any where, here or at home because that is meditated. Your wife and daughter need you and if you go off the handle and kill the guy you go to prison and pay the debt that he should have paid. I wish we could do what we want with these horible people, and trust me I understand because I have a daughter. You have to look at it this way though. Your daughter obviously knew he had a temper and she allowed it, and then chose to live with it. Don't let your decision to hurt the other guy put you in prison because your daughter made a decision to have a relationship with him.

I feel your pain and trust me, I would want revenge too. That means you love her and care. But your wife and daughter need you where you can help them best. God will take care of the guy.

whirley · 12-09-2012, 09:35 AM

Before action, be sure you have wise councilors!

WHSmithIV · 12-09-2012, 09:42 AM

I know guys - I'm not going to do anything stupid. I sure want the dirtbag dead though. Maybe someone will off him in prison......

m77user · 12-09-2012, 09:46 AM

My thoughts and prayers are with you. I will pray for a complete and speedy recovery for your daughter. He will have to pay when his final day comes. Take care and GOD bless.

Sig Willy · 12-09-2012, 10:42 AM

Bitch all you want, that'll clear your mind and I agree, I'd waste that SOB.

I doubt the fall was an accident.

WHSmithIV · 12-09-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sig Willy

Bitch all you want, that'll clear your mind and I agree, I'd waste that SOB.

I doubt the fall was an accident.

Yeah - there are some serious questions about that fall. Cops in Oregon aren't doing anything about it either. Daughter doesn't remember much - she's suffering some amnesia. Her head was split open in the fall and needed 12 staples.

The SOB is in jail and will go to prison. Somehow though it just doesn't seem like enough. She has to struggle to survive and he gets free food and medical... something is wrong with the system.

WHSmithIV · 12-09-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by m77user

My thoughts and prayers are with you. I will pray for a complete and speedy recovery for your daughter. He will have to pay when his final day comes. Take care and GOD bless.

Thanks M77

WHSmithIV · 12-09-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by weaselone

I know how you feel. My stepdaughter was murdered by a pedophile that hadn't been out of prison for rape in high school it takes everything I got not to do something But here in SC (she was pregnant) He gets to die twice for 2 murders!!!

I feel for you - that plain sucks. It amazes me that we keep them on death row for years instead of spending less than a buck on a bullet and a firing squad of one.

time2shoot · 12-09-2012, 11:01 AM

WHSmithIV
I wish her the best.
I used to work at the prison here In SD,
Trust me when i say women beaters are 3rd on the list of crimes most inmates whill not tolalate.
The other 2 envolve children.
He is not going to be happy.

time2shoot · 12-09-2012, 11:02 AM

And please vent here, don't join him.

BlackEagle · 12-09-2012, 11:04 AM

Thoughts and prayers are with you. You sound like Job in the Bible.
David's take on it was something like "God, you get him before I do."--That was when a dirtbag called Nabal did the dirty to him. God did take care of Nabal.

Will be praying that things get better for you.

We're here to listen.

WHSmithIV · 12-09-2012, 12:04 PM

time2shoot and BlackEagle - thanks. This is why I vented here. No fears - I won't be joining him in prison. I was armed when my daughter called me in panic mode just in case he was still there and still beating up on her because then I would have been justified and no charges would have been filed against me. Since he was no longer there at the apartment I arranged and rented for them I brought her to our house and let the sheriffs deputies deal with it - which is why he sits in the local jail still. On Thursday my daughter and I testify. We may have to testify a second time about a week later - don't know yet. Here in Idaho because he is charged with a felony the dirtbag goes before the Judge Magistrate then gets remanded over to district court - same building, same courtroom, different judge. So, we may have to testify again a little over a week later.

One of my concerns is that he has a cache of guns in Texas - he showed me pictures of them. One of them looks like it may be a fully automatic MAC 10. I want those guns found and confiscated.

12-08-2012, 08:58 PM	#1
WHSmithIV Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Moore, Idaho contributor Posts: 2,628	The worst three weeks ever Sorry friends I need to write and vent. Hope you all don't mind..... On my wife's birthday 3 weeks ago we get a call at 3 AM telling us our oldest daughter is in an ICU because she 'fell' off a 3rd floor balcony in Portland, Or. So, I make the drive to Portland (10½ hours) with our pickup and our little trailer - pack up her apartment and move her here to Idaho where we can help her. 14½ hours back the next day with 4 hours of sleep in between. Bring her and her 'fiancee' here to Idaho, get them an apartment. She has 7 fractures in 3 of her ribs, 2 fractures in her spine and a lacerated liver. Her bf promises he's going to go to work and take care of her. What's he do - he beats the hell out of her. Now he sits in jail on $50,000 bond and will go to prison for felony aggravated assault. He goes down for 2-5 years. He's lucky he wasn't there when my daughter called me - I took my .45 to kill him. (Deputies weren't concerned about me packing at all - that's because we live in Idaho and we are a gun friendly state). Then, the washing machine in our house quits - it's only about 14 months old - of course out of warranty by 2 months, the breaker box blows a breaker and I lose my entire computer lab (which I need to make an income), and the hot water heater quits. What a mess. I still don't know if our daughter was pushed off that balcony, I will find out. If she was pushed - well, there will be payback. I'm sorry friends - I needed to write this all down to calm my fury. -->

12-08-2012, 10:29 PM	#2
1 Eyed Jack Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 673	Re: The worst three weeks ever Vent here and get it out, going to jail for the rest of YOUR life over a dirtbag isn't worth it, I know from experience that no matter how bad things may seem at the moment, it can always get worse, quickly, stay in control and don't let it get worse because you made a decision in haste,

12-08-2012, 10:29 PM	#3
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,838	Re: The worst three weeks ever I hope things go BETTER for you soon. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine

12-08-2012, 10:36 PM	#4
Willie Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Galveston,TX Contributor Posts: 1,002	Re: The worst three weeks ever I would feel as you do. Take a deep breath and know that if you do what you really want to do,it will hurt you family more as you will be gone and no help to them. Better to wait a long time,years maybe,when all have forgotten and moved on and then.......from out of nowhere............. __________________ Willie West End Electric Galveston Electricians

12-09-2012, 02:10 AM	#5
weaselone V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Seneca SC Posts: 73	Re: The worst three weeks ever I know how you feel. My stepdaughter was murdered by a pedophile that hadn't been out of prison for rape in high school it takes everything I got not to do something But here in SC (she was pregnant) He gets to die twice for 2 murders!!! __________________ ONLY IN DEATH IS DUTY DONE MOVON ABLE

12-09-2012, 02:12 AM	#6
weaselone V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Seneca SC Posts: 73	Re: The worst three weeks ever I meant he hadnt been out of prison for 2 months! __________________ ONLY IN DEATH IS DUTY DONE MOVON ABLE

12-09-2012, 06:12 AM	#7
wv hillbilly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: mountains of wv. Posts: 2,017	Re: The worst three weeks ever we are here to listen or help i hope things turn around for you. i remember several years back we had to replace everything that had an electric cord on it . from the can opener to the tv and all in between

12-09-2012, 06:46 AM	#8
rcairflr Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wichita, Ks Posts: 1,318	Re: The worst three weeks ever I hope things improve for you and your daughter. From the information given, I believe your daughter also needs to start making better decisions in her life and associate herself with better people. We all have to live with the decisions we make, whether they are good or bad.

12-09-2012, 06:59 AM	#9
johnny ringo V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Treasure Coast, FL Contributor Posts: 143	Re: The worst three weeks ever That's a very sad situation. Hope your daughter recovers soon. I've often said that if something like that happened to my family, I'd make sure something fatal happened to the perp when he was released.

12-09-2012, 07:17 AM	#10
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,297	Re: The worst three weeks ever Thank God she is still alive. My son in law beat the hell out of my daughter and she took him back a year ago. You can't make decisions for your kids. Now we don't see her much as she knows I hate her husband. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

12-09-2012, 07:19 AM	#11
68c15 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,063	Re: The worst three weeks ever the washer and stuff takes a sideline compared to your daughter. does she see what mistakes she has made and want to change? take every possible legal matter to keep him away, forever. justice will be served in due time by someone else with more power than you or I could ever imagine __________________ I'll go defenseless when our leaders do the same

12-09-2012, 09:12 AM	#12
76Highboy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Meridian, Idaho Contributor Posts: 6,962	Re: The worst three weeks ever I complely understand, however try not to put threats into words any where, here or at home because that is meditated. Your wife and daughter need you and if you go off the handle and kill the guy you go to prison and pay the debt that he should have paid. I wish we could do what we want with these horible people, and trust me I understand because I have a daughter. You have to look at it this way though. Your daughter obviously knew he had a temper and she allowed it, and then chose to live with it. Don't let your decision to hurt the other guy put you in prison because your daughter made a decision to have a relationship with him. I feel your pain and trust me, I would want revenge too. That means you love her and care. But your wife and daughter need you where you can help them best. God will take care of the guy.

12-09-2012, 09:35 AM	#13
whirley V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Contributor Posts: 457	Re: The worst three weeks ever Before action, be sure you have wise councilors!

12-09-2012, 09:42 AM	#14
WHSmithIV Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Moore, Idaho contributor Posts: 2,628	Re: The worst three weeks ever I know guys - I'm not going to do anything stupid. I sure want the dirtbag dead though. Maybe someone will off him in prison......

12-09-2012, 09:46 AM	#15
m77user V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 149	Re: The worst three weeks ever My thoughts and prayers are with you. I will pray for a complete and speedy recovery for your daughter. He will have to pay when his final day comes. Take care and GOD bless.

12-09-2012, 10:42 AM	#16
Sig Willy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 565	Re: The worst three weeks ever Bitch all you want, that'll clear your mind and I agree, I'd waste that SOB. I doubt the fall was an accident. __________________ _________________________ Be alert! We need more lerts!

12-09-2012, 11:01 AM	#20
time2shoot Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brandon SD Contributor Posts: 2,600	Re: The worst three weeks ever WHSmithIV I wish her the best. I used to work at the prison here In SD, Trust me when i say women beaters are 3rd on the list of crimes most inmates whill not tolalate. The other 2 envolve children. He is not going to be happy. __________________ I AM A VETERAN MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE!

12-09-2012, 11:02 AM	#21
time2shoot Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Brandon SD Contributor Posts: 2,600	Re: The worst three weeks ever And please vent here, don't join him. __________________ I AM A VETERAN MY OATH OF ENLISTMENT HAS NO EXPIRATION DATE!

12-09-2012, 11:04 AM	#22
BlackEagle Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: UK Posts: 3,171	Re: The worst three weeks ever Thoughts and prayers are with you. You sound like Job in the Bible. David's take on it was something like "God, you get him before I do."--That was when a dirtbag called Nabal did the dirty to him. God did take care of Nabal. Will be praying that things get better for you. We're here to listen.

12-09-2012, 12:04 PM	#23
WHSmithIV Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Moore, Idaho contributor Posts: 2,628	Re: The worst three weeks ever time2shoot and BlackEagle - thanks. This is why I vented here. No fears - I won't be joining him in prison. I was armed when my daughter called me in panic mode just in case he was still there and still beating up on her because then I would have been justified and no charges would have been filed against me. Since he was no longer there at the apartment I arranged and rented for them I brought her to our house and let the sheriffs deputies deal with it - which is why he sits in the local jail still. On Thursday my daughter and I testify. We may have to testify a second time about a week later - don't know yet. Here in Idaho because he is charged with a felony the dirtbag goes before the Judge Magistrate then gets remanded over to district court - same building, same courtroom, different judge. So, we may have to testify again a little over a week later. One of my concerns is that he has a cache of guns in Texas - he showed me pictures of them. One of them looks like it may be a fully automatic MAC 10. I want those guns found and confiscated.