caliber explanation

Glockster · 01-23-2004, 08:09 PM

does anyone have a link that explains gun calibers in detail. also something that explains a gun license and how to get one.

gpostal · 01-23-2004, 08:32 PM

what type of license?

there are many calibers ,are you looking for handgun,long gun?
and what do you need to know about them?

Glockster · 01-23-2004, 08:47 PM

im lookin for an explanaton of all calibers. like what a 9mm 22 40 44 45 is. i think those numbers represent how big a bullet is around. im not sure. im looking to get a small arms license for at least a 45 since i hear its one of the best and has more knock down power then a 9

gamachinist · 01-23-2004, 08:55 PM

That's kind of an involved question,but get a copy of Cartridges of the World.That will give you a picture and explanation of most of the answers to the caliber question.
Good luck with the learning,(it's more fun learning this than school stuff!)Robert

Marlin · 01-23-2004, 09:06 PM

If you mean a Pistol Permit or CCW, which means Concealed Carry Weapon, I would need to know the state in which you live. Each state has it's own requirements.

Let us know where you are.

Glockster · 01-23-2004, 10:20 PM

I'm in GA. I'm sure this state has some strict laws and bans on firearms which makes me ask another question. Is there a website that has all the current state laws on firearms.

SouthernMoss · 01-23-2004, 10:52 PM

Check out http://www.packing.org . You'll have to agree to the disclaimer that comes up when you choose a state from the pull-down, then it'll take to to info on that state, as well as links to the state web sites.

Glockster · 01-23-2004, 11:26 PM

good info. thank you all.

Evilahole · 01-24-2004, 06:01 PM

Hey G,
It's a whole lot cheaper and easier than you can imagine here in Ga..
Take your ID to the local courthouse (probate court), along with $35 or $40 bucks (if i remember correctly) and fill out some forms. This is for a background check.
They'll send you to the sherrif's station (or the police station) to get finger printed.
Then within a few weeks you'll either recieve the CCW permit or a letter of denial.
Pretty painless all in all.
Just be sure you study just WHERE you are allowd to carry...some places like bars, churches, public buildings, schools are definite no-nos.

gamachinist · 01-24-2004, 08:36 PM

Hey Glockster,
Jawja ain't Joisey,Mattsetuchets,New Yawk, or Kaliforney!

Actually,Ga's laws are pretty decent,no capacity bans,as Evil noted,a fairly reasonable CCW law (for about 20 years or so),Class 3 is allowed,long deer hunting season,etc.
So it's really not so bad,if the federal gov't would just leave us be.
Of course we tried that a long time ago...............
Robert.
Oh,by the way,welcome to TFF and to GA my home state.

Xracer · 01-24-2004, 08:47 PM

And now onto caliber....

Caliber is the diameter of the bullet.....expressed in hundreths of an inch or in millimeters.

For instance, .22 caliber is 22/100 in diameter, .45 caliber is 45/100 of an inch in diameter.

A 9mm is 9mm (.355 or 33.5/100 of an inch) in diameter.

These are nominal values and not necessarily exact. For instance, .38 caliber is actually .357 or 35.7/100 of an inch.

Caliber designations can be very confusing.....especially when you get to cartridges like .30-06, .45-70, 7.62x54, etc.......it would take me pages to explain all of this stuff.

I agree with gamachinist.....buy a copy of "Cartridges Of The World.....it's really fun to learn all of this stuff.

FN_Project90 · 01-25-2004, 11:57 AM

in GA its a check or money order for one place and a money order for the background check
20 and 30 or 35, I just did this a year ago (yeah just :\)

JohnK3 · 01-26-2004, 03:43 PM

Another GA resident here.

Real easy. DeKalb County is a little involved (have to go two different places and give money at both), but not too bad. They made me go to the courthouse to get the app, fill it out and give them money. Then I had to go to the main police station on Memorial Dr. and get fingerprinted and give THEM money.

60 days later I had my permit.

45Smashemflat · 01-26-2004, 03:43 PM

Oh, and don't forget the reciprocity agreements - I THINK GA permits are recognized in several other states. I find our laws to be decent - not to be confused with fair. Then again, fair to me is every household is issued a M60.....

1952Sniper · 01-26-2004, 04:50 PM

Quote:

some places like bars, churches, public buildings, schools are definite no-nos.

No pistols in church? That sucks. Church just wouldn't be church here in Texas without shootin' yer pistol in the air after the sermon is over.

Marlin · 01-26-2004, 05:15 PM

Alabama permit restricts in bars, air terminals and public buildings, city, county, state or federal.

Evilahole · 01-26-2004, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 45Smashemflat
Oh, Then again, fair to me is every household is issued a M60.....

LOL...I knew there was something about Georgians I liked...

Evilahole · 01-26-2004, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1952Sniper
No pistols in church? That sucks. Church just wouldn't be church here in Texas without shootin' yer pistol in the air after the sermon is over.

Kinda makes you wonder where the phrase "Praise the lord and pass the ammunition" came from if guns are banned from church, huh?

stash247 · 01-26-2004, 10:07 PM

Caliber--- It's simple. A caliber designation is related to either the bore diameter, i.e., 30.06, with a .300 inch bore, or the groove diameter, i.e. .308, with a .308 inch groove diameter. Of course, both cases use the same bullets, but that's extraneous.
Then, we get into metric numbers, like the 7mm Mauser, and the .275 Rigby, which shoot the same cartridge, albeit differently named.
Y'know what; It's all bullshit. Buy a copy of cotw, read it, and load for your guns. Only one you'll hurt is you. Terry

gamachinist · 01-26-2004, 10:21 PM

I'm glad someone else thought reading a book was a good idea.
'Cause it's very confusing when you have 38 S & W which isn't the same as 38 S & W Special which isn't the same as 357 S & W Magnum even though they use the same bullet diameter.......

Robert.

FN_Project90 · 01-27-2004, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 45Smashemflat
...fair to me is every household is issued a M60.....

OH OH I WANT ONE!
I knew I liked you for some reason smash, now I know what it is. Kinda like "let a playa play," "let a shooter shoot."

Just wait move to Kennesaw in a couple of years, they might pass that law. I prefer the M249 SAW though, just because if I run out of belt fed I can slap in AR15/M16 clips, not that I would run out of several thousands belt fed rounds.... *whistles*

I wish I lived in a remote place and had full auto, I would bird hunt more, or find lots of bowling balls and have smokin' guns over a lot. I am afraid every tree, rock and stump for 5 miles would be shot full of holes though... ...well not quite that bad....

JohnK3 · 01-27-2004, 10:52 PM

http://www.co.dekalb.ga.us/probate/pistollic.htm

This is the link for how to get a Pistol Permit in DeKalb County, GA. Your county might be similar.

If'n I win the lottery, I'm definitely gonna have some fun buying Class III toys. [grin]

FN_Project90 · 02-04-2004, 01:56 PM

will you get me one?

stash247 · 02-04-2004, 09:36 PM

If you gotta job, you can buy a book.
If you don't gotta a job, you got lots of time to steal a book, and just as much time to read it.
I have WAY more dependents than I can claim, already, so GET A JOB, BUY A BOOK, AND READ IT!
If you cannot do the above, please vote democrat.
The whole rest of the world does the first two things, but , don't let that stop YOU!

FN_Project90 · 02-05-2004, 02:13 AM

BAH!
I meant if he wins the lotto ya bastage!
hehehehe

01-23-2004, 08:09 PM	#1
Glockster Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 6	caliber explanation does anyone have a link that explains gun calibers in detail. also something that explains a gun license and how to get one.

01-23-2004, 09:06 PM	#5
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Posts: 13,436	If you mean a Pistol Permit or CCW, which means Concealed Carry Weapon, I would need to know the state in which you live. Each state has it's own requirements. Let us know where you are. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

01-23-2004, 10:20 PM	#6
Glockster Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 6	I'm in GA. I'm sure this state has some strict laws and bans on firearms which makes me ask another question. Is there a website that has all the current state laws on firearms. Last edited by Glockster; 01-23-2004 at 10:28 PM.

01-23-2004, 10:52 PM	#7
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Posts: 10,282	Check out http://www.packing.org . You'll have to agree to the disclaimer that comes up when you choose a state from the pull-down, then it'll take to to info on that state, as well as links to the state web sites. __________________ My Second protects your First "I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." - Susan B Anthony

01-24-2004, 06:01 PM	#9
Evilahole V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 348	Hey G, It's a whole lot cheaper and easier than you can imagine here in Ga.. Take your ID to the local courthouse (probate court), along with $35 or $40 bucks (if i remember correctly) and fill out some forms. This is for a background check. They'll send you to the sherrif's station (or the police station) to get finger printed. Then within a few weeks you'll either recieve the CCW permit or a letter of denial. Pretty painless all in all. Just be sure you study just WHERE you are allowd to carry...some places like bars, churches, public buildings, schools are definite no-nos. Last edited by Evilahole; 01-24-2004 at 06:03 PM.

01-23-2004, 08:32 PM	#2
gpostal Former Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,552	what type of license? there are many calibers ,are you looking for handgun,long gun? and what do you need to know about them?

01-23-2004, 08:47 PM	#3
Glockster Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 6	im lookin for an explanaton of all calibers. like what a 9mm 22 40 44 45 is. i think those numbers represent how big a bullet is around. im not sure. im looking to get a small arms license for at least a 45 since i hear its one of the best and has more knock down power then a 9

01-23-2004, 08:55 PM	#4
gamachinist V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Locust Grove GA Posts: 213	That's kind of an involved question,but get a copy of Cartridges of the World.That will give you a picture and explanation of most of the answers to the caliber question. Good luck with the learning,(it's more fun learning this than school stuff!)Robert

01-23-2004, 11:26 PM	#8
Glockster Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 6	good info. thank you all.

01-24-2004, 08:36 PM	#10
gamachinist V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Locust Grove GA Posts: 213	Hey Glockster, Jawja ain't Joisey,Mattsetuchets,New Yawk, or Kaliforney! Actually,Ga's laws are pretty decent,no capacity bans,as Evil noted,a fairly reasonable CCW law (for about 20 years or so),Class 3 is allowed,long deer hunting season,etc. So it's really not so bad,if the federal gov't would just leave us be. Of course we tried that a long time ago............... Robert. Oh,by the way,welcome to TFF and to GA my home state.

01-24-2004, 08:47 PM	#11
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,154	And now onto caliber.... Caliber is the diameter of the bullet.....expressed in hundreths of an inch or in millimeters. For instance, .22 caliber is 22/100 in diameter, .45 caliber is 45/100 of an inch in diameter. A 9mm is 9mm (.355 or 33.5/100 of an inch) in diameter. These are nominal values and not necessarily exact. For instance, .38 caliber is actually .357 or 35.7/100 of an inch. Caliber designations can be very confusing.....especially when you get to cartridges like .30-06, .45-70, 7.62x54, etc.......it would take me pages to explain all of this stuff. I agree with gamachinist.....buy a copy of "Cartridges Of The World.....it's really fun to learn all of this stuff.

01-25-2004, 11:57 AM	#12
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	in GA its a check or money order for one place and a money order for the background check 20 and 30 or 35, I just did this a year ago (yeah just :\) __________________ Things n' Stuff

01-26-2004, 03:43 PM	#13
JohnK3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,639	Another GA resident here. Real easy. DeKalb County is a little involved (have to go two different places and give money at both), but not too bad. They made me go to the courthouse to get the app, fill it out and give them money. Then I had to go to the main police station on Memorial Dr. and get fingerprinted and give THEM money. 60 days later I had my permit.

01-26-2004, 03:43 PM	#14
45Smashemflat Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,496	Oh, and don't forget the reciprocity agreements - I THINK GA permits are recognized in several other states. I find our laws to be decent - not to be confused with fair. Then again, fair to me is every household is issued a M60.....

01-26-2004, 05:15 PM	#16
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Posts: 13,436	Alabama permit restricts in bars, air terminals and public buildings, city, county, state or federal. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

01-26-2004, 10:07 PM	#19
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,825	Caliber--- It's simple. A caliber designation is related to either the bore diameter, i.e., 30.06, with a .300 inch bore, or the groove diameter, i.e. .308, with a .308 inch groove diameter. Of course, both cases use the same bullets, but that's extraneous. Then, we get into metric numbers, like the 7mm Mauser, and the .275 Rigby, which shoot the same cartridge, albeit differently named. Y'know what; It's all bullshit. Buy a copy of cotw, read it, and load for your guns. Only one you'll hurt is you. Terry __________________ Don't start no s**t and there won't be none, Terry

01-26-2004, 10:21 PM	#20
gamachinist V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Locust Grove GA Posts: 213	I'm glad someone else thought reading a book was a good idea. 'Cause it's very confusing when you have 38 S & W which isn't the same as 38 S & W Special which isn't the same as 357 S & W Magnum even though they use the same bullet diameter....... Robert.

01-27-2004, 10:52 PM	#22
JohnK3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,639	http://www.co.dekalb.ga.us/probate/pistollic.htm This is the link for how to get a Pistol Permit in DeKalb County, GA. Your county might be similar. If'n I win the lottery, I'm definitely gonna have some fun buying Class III toys. [grin]

02-04-2004, 01:56 PM	#23
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	will you get me one? __________________ Things n' Stuff Last edited by FN_Project90; 02-05-2004 at 02:12 AM.

02-04-2004, 09:36 PM	#24
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,825	If you gotta job, you can buy a book. If you don't gotta a job, you got lots of time to steal a book, and just as much time to read it. I have WAY more dependents than I can claim, already, so GET A JOB, BUY A BOOK, AND READ IT! If you cannot do the above, please vote democrat. The whole rest of the world does the first two things, but , don't let that stop YOU! __________________ Don't start no s**t and there won't be none, Terry

02-05-2004, 02:13 AM	#25
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	BAH! I meant if he wins the lotto ya bastage! hehehehe __________________ Things n' Stuff

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