Japanese Arisaka Type 99 - The Firearms Forum

Buford Allen · 05-18-2004, 10:29 PM

My dad owns a Japanese Arisaka Type 99 in 7.7x58mm. It and the one that my dad's older brother have, were brought here by my grandpa at the end of World War II. They are battle field captured and still have the crysanthamum emblem stamped in the receivers. The one my dad has is in "shooter grade" condition. I would like any info as to what these rifles might possibly be worth and if there is any 7.7x58mm ammo out there.

My dad's has full wood nearly to the end of the barrel, not unlike that of the Mauser type rifles.

My uncle's has shorter front wood that is somewhat sporty but I believe that it has had no modifications. This one also has a wire bipod that is attached to the front and flips up to attach to the front wood.

These rifles are family heirlooms and hung on the wall in my Grandmothers house as long as I can remember, until she passed away and then they became my dad's and his brother's.

p3skyking · 05-18-2004, 10:57 PM

Buford,
The Japanese started making 99's around 1938 or so. Several arsenals on the Japanese archapeligo plus Jinsen in Korea made them. Many different variations, more than 30 actually.

Having the mum is a plus. Not being sporterized is a major plus. It is hard setting a value on them as some folks think they're all crap and others don't. The earlier, the better as finishing was better. Some people flip over last ditch weapons. Your local enconomy pretty much sets the price, but I would value them at $150 plus.

Norma makes good ammo and any reloader can turn brass out of 3006 for the Arisaka.

Best,
Mike

Dan70 · 05-19-2004, 04:26 AM

You can find brass and ammo at grafs

Xracer · 05-19-2004, 08:19 AM

The quality of Type 99s varied greatly depending on when they were made. The pre-war and early WWII ones were very nicely made and finished.....those made late in the war were poorly finished and quite crude.

Here are the values from latest "Standard Catalog of Military Firearms":

Arisaka Type 99 Short Rifle (26" barrel)

Exc. - $175
V.G. - $140
Good - $100
Fair - $80

Add 15% for monopod

Arisaka Type 99 Long Rifle (31.4" barrel)

Exc. - $500
V.G. - $400
Good - $300
Fair - $100

Add 30% for monopod

Deduct 30% if Mum stamping is ground off

njretcop · 05-20-2004, 07:26 PM

Xracer,

Your book is no guide to the ACTUAL price being paid for Arisaka's now.

An Arisaka in excellent condition with the mum intact, matching numbers, cleaning rod, dust cover, and aircraft sights can fetch over 400.00.

I currently have three Arisaka's, an early, mid and late war version.

As you stated, the "last ditch" one is probably the most valuable.

05-18-2004, 10:29 PM	#1
Buford Allen V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vernon, TX Posts: 134	Japanese Arisaka Type 99 My dad owns a Japanese Arisaka Type 99 in 7.7x58mm. It and the one that my dad's older brother have, were brought here by my grandpa at the end of World War II. They are battle field captured and still have the crysanthamum emblem stamped in the receivers. The one my dad has is in "shooter grade" condition. I would like any info as to what these rifles might possibly be worth and if there is any 7.7x58mm ammo out there. My dad's has full wood nearly to the end of the barrel, not unlike that of the Mauser type rifles. My uncle's has shorter front wood that is somewhat sporty but I believe that it has had no modifications. This one also has a wire bipod that is attached to the front and flips up to attach to the front wood. These rifles are family heirlooms and hung on the wall in my Grandmothers house as long as I can remember, until she passed away and then they became my dad's and his brother's. -->

05-18-2004, 10:57 PM	#2
p3skyking Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bay Minette Posts: 17	Buford, The Japanese started making 99's around 1938 or so. Several arsenals on the Japanese archapeligo plus Jinsen in Korea made them. Many different variations, more than 30 actually. Having the mum is a plus. Not being sporterized is a major plus. It is hard setting a value on them as some folks think they're all crap and others don't. The earlier, the better as finishing was better. Some people flip over last ditch weapons. Your local enconomy pretty much sets the price, but I would value them at $150 plus. Norma makes good ammo and any reloader can turn brass out of 3006 for the Arisaka. Best, Mike __________________ Hate clouds the mind. It is better to have no emotion when it is work. Do what needs to be done, and do it coolly A man who shoots when you don't call out doesn't have too many friends, but his enemies are surely all dead. L'Amour

05-20-2004, 07:26 PM	#5
njretcop Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,537	Xracer, Your book is no guide to the ACTUAL price being paid for Arisaka's now. An Arisaka in excellent condition with the mum intact, matching numbers, cleaning rod, dust cover, and aircraft sights can fetch over 400.00. I currently have three Arisaka's, an early, mid and late war version. As you stated, the "last ditch" one is probably the most valuable. __________________ Charlie

05-19-2004, 04:26 AM	#3
Dan70 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GA Posts: 111	You can find brass and ammo at grafs

05-19-2004, 08:19 AM	#4
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	The quality of Type 99s varied greatly depending on when they were made. The pre-war and early WWII ones were very nicely made and finished.....those made late in the war were poorly finished and quite crude. Here are the values from latest "Standard Catalog of Military Firearms": Arisaka Type 99 Short Rifle (26" barrel) Exc. - $175 V.G. - $140 Good - $100 Fair - $80 Add 15% for monopod Arisaka Type 99 Long Rifle (31.4" barrel) Exc. - $500 V.G. - $400 Good - $300 Fair - $100 Add 30% for monopod Deduct 30% if Mum stamping is ground off