Suppressors and first round pop

SOT_II · 09-01-2004, 04:32 PM

This is an excellent example of first round pop when using a suppressor, the first round has a distinctly higher sound value...and the others are much quieter.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~scovi...-supressed.mpg

gpostal · 09-03-2004, 07:06 PM

I think it was a technical problem ,not a rule

neat though

LIKTOSHOOT · 09-03-2004, 08:10 PM

I would hate to be such a rookie for a switch....

LTS

Raven18940 · 09-05-2004, 12:13 PM

Damn, military people get all the fun toys.

SOT_II · 09-05-2004, 06:52 PM

Yes FRP is a very common issue with many suppressors.

http://www.gem-tech.com/outback.html

Or maybe gemtech and half the suppressor manufacturers out there just think FRP is a "technical problem" and not something that is to be worked on.

"As with most Gemtech suppressors, the Outback-II is designed to operate dry with no messy artificial environment. Upgrades of the original Outback to the Outback-II configuration are available. Contact us by phone (208-939-7222) for details.

• Significant reduction of first round pop"

SOT_II · 09-05-2004, 06:53 PM

has nothing to do with the military, machine guns and suppressors are leagl in many states. It's a transferable machine gun with a .22 upper and a legally owned suppressor.

Raven18940 · 09-08-2004, 11:03 AM

in pennsy a weapon with a suppressor is considered an "ofensive weapon" aka illegal.

45Smashemflat · 09-09-2004, 05:01 PM

Is FRP a function of the condition of the suppressor - in other words, maybe its "too clean?" - like a first round zero is usually different than one from a slightly fouled bore?

I'm guessing something like that, as otherwise what would be the definition of "first round" unless its like a Thermos - it just knows...

The old Swedish K and S&W 9mm's we blanket heads used were generally function fired before heading to the field to aviod this - and other calamities.

Admin · 09-10-2004, 02:30 AM

First chance in awhile I've had to drop in on this forum, SOT II, Raven, 45Smash,
good to see the exchange of info in here. Thumbs Up, Folks!

Tac

Raven18940 · 09-10-2004, 07:07 PM

Really, I didn't contribute anything useful.

SOT_II · 11-25-2004, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven18940

in pennsy a weapon with a suppressor is considered an "ofensive weapon" aka illegal.

You mean PA? suppressors are TOTALLY legal in PA, attached to ANY type of firearm.

They are "illegal" if you do not have Federal approval.

stash247 · 12-18-2004, 10:52 PM

Frp is supposed to be linked to the difference in the internal atmosphere of the can. Read this somewhere, a long time ago, I think on the AWC website( Dr. Dater)
Interestingly, "wet" cans do not generally exhibit this phenomenon.

09-01-2004, 04:32 PM	#1
SOT_II V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Berkshires Posts: 80	Suppressors and first round pop This is an excellent example of first round pop when using a suppressor, the first round has a distinctly higher sound value...and the others are much quieter. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~scovi...-supressed.mpg __________________ CQB Arms -->

09-03-2004, 07:06 PM	#2
gpostal Former Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,552	Re: Suppressors and first round pop I think it was a technical problem ,not a rule neat though

09-03-2004, 08:10 PM	#3
LIKTOSHOOT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,367	Re: Suppressors and first round pop I would hate to be such a rookie for a switch.... LTS

09-05-2004, 12:13 PM	#4
Raven18940 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 170	Re: Suppressors and first round pop Damn, military people get all the fun toys.

09-05-2004, 06:52 PM	#5
SOT_II V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Berkshires Posts: 80	Re: Suppressors and first round pop Yes FRP is a very common issue with many suppressors. http://www.gem-tech.com/outback.html Or maybe gemtech and half the suppressor manufacturers out there just think FRP is a "technical problem" and not something that is to be worked on. "As with most Gemtech suppressors, the Outback-II is designed to operate dry with no messy artificial environment. Upgrades of the original Outback to the Outback-II configuration are available. Contact us by phone (208-939-7222) for details. • Significant reduction of first round pop" __________________ CQB Arms Last edited by SOT_II; 09-05-2004 at 06:56 PM..

09-05-2004, 06:53 PM	#6
SOT_II V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Berkshires Posts: 80	Re: Suppressors and first round pop has nothing to do with the military, machine guns and suppressors are leagl in many states. It's a transferable machine gun with a .22 upper and a legally owned suppressor. __________________ CQB Arms

09-08-2004, 11:03 AM	#7
Raven18940 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 170	Re: Suppressors and first round pop in pennsy a weapon with a suppressor is considered an "ofensive weapon" aka illegal.

09-09-2004, 05:01 PM	#8
45Smashemflat Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,494	Re: Suppressors and first round pop Is FRP a function of the condition of the suppressor - in other words, maybe its "too clean?" - like a first round zero is usually different than one from a slightly fouled bore? I'm guessing something like that, as otherwise what would be the definition of "first round" unless its like a Thermos - it just knows... The old Swedish K and S&W 9mm's we blanket heads used were generally function fired before heading to the field to aviod this - and other calamities.

09-10-2004, 02:30 AM	#9
Admin Site Network Webmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Site Control Panel Posts: 11,654	Re: Suppressors and first round pop First chance in awhile I've had to drop in on this forum, SOT II, Raven, 45Smash, good to see the exchange of info in here. Thumbs Up, Folks! Tac

09-10-2004, 07:07 PM	#10
Raven18940 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 170	Re: Suppressors and first round pop Really, I didn't contribute anything useful.

12-18-2004, 10:52 PM	#12
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,815	Re: Suppressors and first round pop Frp is supposed to be linked to the difference in the internal atmosphere of the can. Read this somewhere, a long time ago, I think on the AWC website( Dr. Dater) Interestingly, "wet" cans do not generally exhibit this phenomenon. __________________ Don't start no s**t and there won't be none, Terry