Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? - The Firearms Forum

Buford Allen · 02-27-2005, 09:22 AM

How do I determine the DOM on a Czech VZ-24 and a Swiss K-31?
Is this determined by the Ser.# or are there other markings that are significant?

1952Sniper · 02-28-2005, 12:34 PM

For your K-31, go here and look it up. Yes, the serial number will tell you when it was made. http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/schmidt_rubin.html

Buford Allen · 02-28-2005, 08:34 PM

My K31 is a 1950 according to this. Thanks.

Huck Finn · 03-16-2005, 11:47 AM

Buford,
Have you taken the butt plate off your K-31 yet? When you do, you may find a tag with the name and address of the original owner, you will also find the month and year the stock was made stamped on the end of the butt. I have three K-31's, two of which had tags. One rifle had two tags in it! Let me know what you find. Good luck, Huck

Buford Allen · 03-16-2005, 07:22 PM

Hey, Huck, that's cool. Mine does have a tag with some writing on one side that I can't read and the ser. # on the other side. There is an X and a 50 on the buttstock. I assume this means October of 1950.

Huck Finn · 03-16-2005, 11:03 PM

Buford,
That's GREAT! Is the writing hard to read because it's illegible or because it's in German? If it's German, can you post a picture of it, maybe I can help. Another great place to help with tags ( or anything Swiss) is
www.SwissRifles.com Give them a try. Swiss rifles can also help decode the markings that are stamped on your rifles. If there's anything else I can do to help, let me know.
Huck

Buford Allen · 03-17-2005, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Huck Finn

Buford,
That's GREAT! Is the writing hard to read because it's illegible or because it's in German?

It's in German. I wasn't sure what language was spoke in Switzerland, Duh. I have an Aunt that is German and she could probably tell me what is on the tag. I'll have to work at getting a pic. I don't have a digicam right now.

Huck Finn · 03-17-2005, 10:35 PM

Buford,
A lot of guys have actually gotten in touch with the soldiers who were originally issued their rifles. I've already sent off letters to Switzerland to who I hope are the owners, or families of the original owner. Here's a picture of the tags I found in my 3rd K-31. Here's the translation.
Issued to Hans Hugi, born 1922
Stauw.-Flab. Bttr. 1/123 ( 1st Platoon, 123rd Anti-Aircraft Battery, protecting a dam)
Birkenweg 14 (Street Address)
Trimbach SO (Town and Canton)
Kind a cool!
Huck

Buford Allen · 03-19-2005, 07:25 PM

Huck Finn · 03-24-2005, 12:17 PM

Buford,
Just to let you know, I wrote a few letters to guys in Switzerland with the same name as on my tag. I got an e-mail from one of them yesterday. He's not the original owner of the rifle, but he's going to help me track him down!
I'll let ya know how it turns out. Did you get your tag translated yet?
Huck

Huck Finn · 04-11-2005, 07:58 PM

Buford,
I just heard from the family of Hans Hugi (the Swiss soldier who was issued my K-31)! Hans passed away in 1982, but they sent me some photos of Hans and gave me some of his history. I expect to keep in touch with them. The Son in law was really helpful. I'm thinking of having some flowers wired to their home in Switzerland and asking them to place them on the grave of Hans and his wife, out of respect to a fellow soldier.
How are things coming with your tag? Making any progress? Let me know if I can help.
Huck

02-27-2005, 09:22 AM	#1
Buford Allen V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vernon, TX Posts: 134	Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? How do I determine the DOM on a Czech VZ-24 and a Swiss K-31? Is this determined by the Ser.# or are there other markings that are significant? __________________ "Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah." --Black Sabbath, War Pigs "Yes as a matter of fact, I am a Christian, American, Heterosexual, PRO-GUN, Conservative." "Any questions?" -->

02-28-2005, 12:34 PM	#2
1952Sniper Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 5,138	Re: Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? For your K-31, go here and look it up. Yes, the serial number will tell you when it was made. http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/schmidt_rubin.html

02-28-2005, 08:34 PM	#3
Buford Allen V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vernon, TX Posts: 134	Re: Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? My K31 is a 1950 according to this. Thanks. __________________ "Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah." --Black Sabbath, War Pigs "Yes as a matter of fact, I am a Christian, American, Heterosexual, PRO-GUN, Conservative." "Any questions?"

03-16-2005, 11:47 AM	#4
Huck Finn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 836	Re: Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? Buford, Have you taken the butt plate off your K-31 yet? When you do, you may find a tag with the name and address of the original owner, you will also find the month and year the stock was made stamped on the end of the butt. I have three K-31's, two of which had tags. One rifle had two tags in it! Let me know what you find. Good luck, Huck __________________ Tiocfaidh Ár Lá ! "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"

03-16-2005, 07:22 PM	#5
Buford Allen V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vernon, TX Posts: 134	Re: Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? Hey, Huck, that's cool. Mine does have a tag with some writing on one side that I can't read and the ser. # on the other side. There is an X and a 50 on the buttstock. I assume this means October of 1950. __________________ "Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah." --Black Sabbath, War Pigs "Yes as a matter of fact, I am a Christian, American, Heterosexual, PRO-GUN, Conservative." "Any questions?"

03-16-2005, 11:03 PM	#6
Huck Finn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 836	Re: Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? Buford, That's GREAT! Is the writing hard to read because it's illegible or because it's in German? If it's German, can you post a picture of it, maybe I can help. Another great place to help with tags ( or anything Swiss) is www.SwissRifles.com Give them a try. Swiss rifles can also help decode the markings that are stamped on your rifles. If there's anything else I can do to help, let me know. Huck __________________ Tiocfaidh Ár Lá ! "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"

03-17-2005, 10:35 PM	#8
Huck Finn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 836	Re: Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? Buford, A lot of guys have actually gotten in touch with the soldiers who were originally issued their rifles. I've already sent off letters to Switzerland to who I hope are the owners, or families of the original owner. Here's a picture of the tags I found in my 3rd K-31. Here's the translation. Issued to Hans Hugi, born 1922 Stauw.-Flab. Bttr. 1/123 ( 1st Platoon, 123rd Anti-Aircraft Battery, protecting a dam) Birkenweg 14 (Street Address) Trimbach SO (Town and Canton) Kind a cool! Huck Attached Images __________________ Tiocfaidh Ár Lá ! "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"

03-19-2005, 07:25 PM	#9
Buford Allen V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vernon, TX Posts: 134	Re: Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? __________________ "Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah." --Black Sabbath, War Pigs "Yes as a matter of fact, I am a Christian, American, Heterosexual, PRO-GUN, Conservative." "Any questions?"

03-24-2005, 12:17 PM	#10
Huck Finn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 836	Re: Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? Buford, Just to let you know, I wrote a few letters to guys in Switzerland with the same name as on my tag. I got an e-mail from one of them yesterday. He's not the original owner of the rifle, but he's going to help me track him down! I'll let ya know how it turns out. Did you get your tag translated yet? Huck __________________ Tiocfaidh Ár Lá ! "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"

04-11-2005, 07:58 PM	#11
Huck Finn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 836	Re: Date of manufacture : VZ-24 and K31? Buford, I just heard from the family of Hans Hugi (the Swiss soldier who was issued my K-31)! Hans passed away in 1982, but they sent me some photos of Hans and gave me some of his history. I expect to keep in touch with them. The Son in law was really helpful. I'm thinking of having some flowers wired to their home in Switzerland and asking them to place them on the grave of Hans and his wife, out of respect to a fellow soldier. How are things coming with your tag? Making any progress? Let me know if I can help. Huck __________________ Tiocfaidh Ár Lá ! "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest"