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Join Date: Jun 2009
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I had a Beretta .32 Tomcat AWESOME GUN!!! Perfect Carry, More accurate than my .22 great price/great gun
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Northwest GA
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I once owned a Taurus PT-22 for a short time. It jammed a LOT. I bought it new and sold it nearly so. Do they require a break-in period or something?
For a pocket gun the only one I have right now is an FEG P7 in .32ACP. I do plink with it, in fact I plink with it so much I usually am out of ammo! Like right now. ![]()
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: IL
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The problem with an auto pocket gun is it can get dirty and fail to function when you need it. Lent, dirt and other grit can become a problem before you know it. Those little automatics can be finicky even when clean.
If you really want a reliable little 22 pocket gun I would suggest a NAA revolver. Below are pics of my NAA revolvers, top is the NAA Pug .22mag, weight 6.4 oz's and right below that is the NAA .22LR and it weighs in at 4.6 oz's Both are 5 shot single action revolvers. ![]() |
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#29 |
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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IF THE Bobcat is anything like my tomcat 32, GET IT Great gun, never jam ,
dead accurate |
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Pennsylvania
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Greetings;
Look at the Phoenix Arms HP-22 Range Kit: A really nice inexpensive pistol kit with 2 mags., a three inch barrel, a five inch barrel, a cleaning kit and an excellent instruction manual in a lockable plastic carrying case. Current price in my area is plus/minus $200.00. My son and I shoot many rounds through it and a Walther P-22, the Walther has been back to S&W twice because of unusual wear, however the Phoenix is still ticking and IMHO is more accurate with the five inch barrel than the Walther and cheaper too! Regards Last edited by skoda; 06-24-2009 at 02:32 PM.. |
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Antonio Texas
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If I were you I would consider the Smith and Wesson model 317. Overall length is 6.25 inches long weighs a meer 10.5 oz and has an 8 round capacity.
I am personally saving up for this pistol. In the mean time I have a Iver Johnson Cadet model 55 SA 8 shot handgun. http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...egory_rn=15704 |
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South Carolina
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![]() I've been carrying this Bobcat for a while. Just started carrying it with me in the woods with the shot shells shown for snakes. IMOP I prefer .22lr over 25ACP any day after looking at the ballistics of rounds like Aguila hyper velocity loads, and Remington Vipers / Yellow Jackets. .22 ammo is a dime a dozen, easy to find anywhere, and can be used in any one of half a dozen guns I own. The Bobcats advantages are unbeatable reliability, QUICK reloads!, simplicity, SIZE, and it can be fired double or single action. All just my thoughts on it though. |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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The Beretta 21 is the only gun currently made that will work as a .22 pocket plinker.
Ignition is "iffy" with these when used double action, but if you cock the pistol for your first shot it will work fine. The Beretta pocket autos are amazingly accurate, once you learn to shoot them. |
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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Bigcheesestick-
The ballistics you are reading are for .22s fired from rifle length barrels, not 2" pistol barrels. The .25 is considerably more powerful in that length. The OP stated he wanted a pocket plinker, not a self defense gun, BTW. |
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Mesa, Az
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my Iver Johnson TP22 has been my suit jacket pocket pistol for some time. It is more of a specialized carry piece as I am more likely to have one of my 380's or 9x18's with me. There are just times when even those are too big,
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: South Carolina
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Bill, good point about the barrel length. One of these days I need to break down and get a Chrony. just to answer a few questions I've got. I have done some "testing", with the Bobcat just to learn its limitations. The snake shot works well at a range of 6-7'. Thats the only distance I've tested at thinking it was most practical for me.
Never had an issue firing double or single action at all with this particular Bobcat. I've actually never had a single missfire, failure to load, or anything. It's been super reliable! I'd guess I've run between 200-250 rounds through it. I'm afraid most people will be disapointed with the accuracy though. At least what I've seen using the hypervelocity stuff, its a 15' gun. Slower heavier bullets would surely help. Another thing you may want to consider in buying this gun is I had to go to 4 gun stores before finding spare magazines. And then they were a pretty penny. I forget how much exactly, but I remember not being to happy paying what I did for the two I bought. If your going out for a LOT of plinking that day, I'd say put on the Pachmayer grips for sure. They feel great, and double the size of the grip of the gun. I dont like them at all for carrying because they near double the size of the whole gun. Last edited by BigCheeseStick; 07-06-2009 at 07:44 AM.. |
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: N.C.
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I have a Taurus PT-22 and have shot around 500 rounds thru it and have had no problems whatsoever with mechanics or accuracy.The only drawback is that the PT-22 is not designed for Hyper Velocity rounds.
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Pennsylvania
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Greetings;
The Phoenix Arms HP-22A(see earlier post) w/Rangemaster kit; Great inexpensive, reliable and looks good as well (approx. 7k rounds fired) this one likes CCI-SV. Regards |
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northeast Georgia
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Like icm856, I also recommend the little NAA revolver that can be stuck in your pocket and forgot. It is not my primary goto gun, it is just an extra one. Who would expect you to have two?
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I'm intrigued by that Phoenix Arms HP-22A with a long barrel and a short barrel it looks like two guns for the price of one. It also has a James Bondish look to it. I'm amazed that you've been able to get 7K rounds through it without any problems. How is it for accuracy?
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Northwest GA
Posts: 1,381
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Skoda, that is a nice looking kit. What's the damage? (Haven't Googled it yet.) Details, please?
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Join Date: May 2007
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+1 on the Astra Cub. It was also sold as the Astra 200 and Astra 2000, and sold as a Colt also. .22 short only. That is my pocket .22. I bought mine for $95, but they are now hard to find under $300
Also NAA revolvers - Black Widow (2" barrel) or MiniMaster (4" Barrel, fixed or adj sights). You can get these with both .22LR & Magnum cylinders. Very pretty, quite accurate. I prefer the longer barrel, but the shorter one pockets better. Both of these are just big enough that you can hold and aim them securely, unlike the smaller NAAs The 2" Alloy framed taurus are worthwhile also. It's full-size, nine-shot, and lightweight. good sights. If you can find one, Llama made a .22 in a mini-1911 style. They are fairly sought-after. Buy one if you find it. Last edited by AR1911; 08-15-2009 at 07:14 AM.. |
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#43 |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
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The Astra Cub is not the same as the model 200 "Firecat." The 200 was offered in .25 only, and has an internal hammer. The Cub was sold in both .25 and .22 short.
Astra did make the early (pre 1968) Colt Juniors. They were available in .22 short or .25 acp. |
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 42
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No question, A NAA Black Widow in 22 mag with the cross lock base pin.
Very accurate and the base pin don't jump out like the "ink pen" versions |
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 51
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My two favorite .22 pocket guns are an Erma RX-22, and a Walther TPH. 1st and 3rd guns, from left to right.
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#46 |
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Southern Illinois...in the Shawnee National Forest Area...with the cottonmouths and copperheads...and some really huge friggin deer.
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.22LR isn't exactly a heavy hitter, but for conveinience and carry purposes, the ole Bobcat is still a option. Only problem I've found is on draw, because of the hammer catching a pocket. As far as accuracy goes, if you can shoot well, you can hit a coffee-cup saucer at 25 yrds repeatedly. I just did fired mine yesterday like that.
One tip would be to keep the magazine slightly oiled, and also oil the slide on the weapon. Berettas don't often fail to feed the next round if properly lubed. When theyre dry and fired alot at the range, you WILL experience a problem, so keep it clean and oiled. That little pocket chum will last you for years. They don't have alot of knockdown power, I agree, but I ask you, would you feel very bold if someone was pointing one at you???? A .22LR may not be able to pick up a 275lb person and set them on their rear, but it will definitely make an attacker rethink about proceeding to do you harm. No reason to disrespect the little ole .22LR. The morgue has seen its share of fools who had no respect for the caliber. |
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 10
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Had a stainless Walther ..22 TPH that, for whatever reason, failed to feed frequently. Just saying.
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Coastal north carolina
Posts: 332
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My NAA 22 mag fits nicely in the watch pocket of my jeans. Just the handle sticks out. I always wear my work shirt out so I'm carrying concealed/open at the same time!
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Henderson, Nevada
Posts: 645
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With a .22 LR. The ammo is cheap, and are very accurate (depending on the shooter). The only draw back to me is the price. For a new .22 LR we are going to pay as much and maybe more than for a .380 ACP Auto. Even the mini revolvers are pricey. Obummer and the new taxes on hanguns,ammo, and tobacco really has screwed things up and that is what the do-gooders wanted. Nuts!
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 62
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If you have a TPH there is a smith named Roger Perry that works on them and sets them up to be reliable with specific ammo. If the one pictured is an Interarms manufactured product might want to send it to Perry.
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