snake slayer?? - The Firearms Forum

rosierita · 04-04-2005, 07:46 PM

i saw 1 of these at the gun shop last wk. i want 1!! mainly to look at.

(troy wants 1 to shoot tho!

)

i wasnt sure where to post this gun, i dont really know what to consider it. LOL!

snake slayer

Quote:

Barrel:
3 1/2 "
Weight:
22 oz.
Length:
5 1/2 "
Stocks:
Extended Custom Laminated Black Ash or Rosewood
Sights:
Bladefront and Fixed Rear
Features:

• 3 1/2" barrel
• Interchangeable Barrels
• Automatic Extractor
••••(EXCEPT FOR 9mm,40S&W,10mm and450 Bond Super/.45 ACP)
• Rebounding Hammer
• Retracting Firing Pins
• Crossbolt Safety
• Spring-Loaded Cammed Locking Lever
••••• (for a tighter barrel/frame fit and Rapid loading and unloading)
• Trigger guard
• Stainless Steel with Satin Polish Finish
Calibers:
.410/45LC with 3" chambers

eta ~ what are your thoughts??

Marlin · 04-04-2005, 10:35 PM

Looks like a Derringer to me! Did I miss that one. I looked at the 22 oz weight and misread .22 calibre.

I had one in a .38 which was wicked. Mine had about a 50# trigger pull!

I wouldn't even try one in .45 or .410 after my experience with the .38.....

inplanotx · 04-05-2005, 07:50 AM

Fired one once. Dang near ripped my palm off. Those things cause permanent flinch! Not for me. Try a snake charmer in 410 caliber.

rosierita · 04-05-2005, 07:58 AM

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Fired one once. Dang near ripped my palm off. Those things cause permanent flinch! Not for me. Try a snake charmer in 410 caliber.

that's what i was thinking! (about ripping your palm off

) i'll have to check out the snake charmer.

Quote:

I wouldn't even try one in .45 or .410 after my experience with the .38.....

i keep thinking about the recoil on my 38 when i see this thing. i know for sure i dont want to shoot it.

Xracer · 04-05-2005, 08:11 AM

I fired a Derringer in .38 Special once.......I don't even want to think about one in Colt .45!

Marlin · 04-05-2005, 08:44 AM

Once was enough for me, too, Racer!!!!!!

Our gunsmith thought it'd be just right for my wife to carry at a time we had a very volitile case going and had been threatened and routinely shot at when at home.

She never fired it and we took it back. She couldn't even fire it dry because of that 50# trigger pull. After that experience, she carried the Baby Browning for months.

SouthernMoss · 04-05-2005, 02:24 PM

You think I'd shoot that thing???

No thanks, I prefer my hand and wrist UNbroken, thank you very much!

rosierita · 04-05-2005, 05:46 PM

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You think I'd shoot that thing??? No thanks, I prefer my hand and wrist UNbroken, thank you very much!

no doubt!! ever since i posted this, my carpal tunnel has been giving me a FIT!

i wonder if that is why?? LOL!

Marlin · 04-05-2005, 06:06 PM

Dern, Rosie, and sorry to hear it. CTS is nothing to laugh at and all the more reason why you sure don't want to shoot that little monster, either.

rosierita · 04-06-2005, 07:54 AM

oh yeah! for sure! LOL! fortunately i have escaped so far w/o surgery marlin. i have to get my brace out sometimes & wear it at night (i can never wear it during the day, life is just too busy

). i've been dealing w/ this since i was 15 tho.

i cant think of anything specific that has caused this little "flare-up", so i'm blaming it on this "little" gun.

MisterEd · 04-06-2005, 09:42 PM

How can this even be legal in the "shotgun" mode?

stash247 · 04-07-2005, 04:44 AM

If that's an American Derringer, from Waco, Tx, you have a real tempest in a teacup; Ms Liz Saunders is a great lady, delivering a quality product!
If you can buy it for less than $300, it's a gift.
Buy it, try it, call me if you don't like it, and I'll give you your money back- I'd LOVE to have another one!

stash247 · 04-07-2005, 04:49 AM

Please 'scuse my previous post; missed the link.
Can't speak to the Bond Arms issue; I WOULD buy another American Derringer gun in the same caliber, and gladly!

Salvage33 · 04-09-2005, 10:11 PM

Years ago a buddy of mine bought one of those...took it to the range the first time...I was standing about 10' behind him when he fired it...caught it as it sailed through the air over his head. As far as I know, he still has it and 49 rounds of 45 Long Colt ammo.

Not for the faint of heart and I would shoot it ONLY IF IT WAS THE ONLY THING I HAD!!!!!!

John

Neil · 05-08-2005, 09:35 AM

I had a Derringer in a .35 or .32(can't remember) I was storing it for family in my safe, Just looking at it and then my Banana hands and thought Heck No. My Smith 442 would disapear in my plam so I would surely not beable to manage that little bugger.

45Smashemflat · 05-24-2005, 05:25 PM

Ditto Terry, I had an American Derringer M1 in 45ACP. Quite a handful, but was a great pocket gun and matched ammo for the 1911 I also carried. Well crafted gun. Don't really need one now with the Ti Smith. But, there is something to be said for the intimidation factor.

vsorrentino · 10-31-2009, 07:28 PM

I normally carry a S&W 637 2" snubby 38 special. Great carry gun. I just got a Snake Slayer as my BUG. Love this little thing and it packs one big punch with 410 ga self defense shot ammo.

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 11-01-2009, 12:30 PM

Snake killer = Pole-Arm. Why waste a bullet.

jrg · 11-10-2009, 01:03 PM

OUCH! Just OUCH! Those .410 derringers are loud and have plenty of recoil. Not for me - a .410 T/C Contender is another animal altogether.

Agentwil · 02-19-2010, 05:58 PM

I owned one of those in 45LC/410 and the trigger suuuuuccckkkks and it's not accurate so I used it for trade for a new Taurus Night Judge. Better accuracy and three more rounds to boot.

Terry_P · 02-19-2010, 09:50 PM

If you want snake loads then 38 shot loads work well and you have a carry piece or revolver that you can enjoy shooting.

petesusn · 02-20-2010, 10:47 AM

My Cobra .38 Derringer had a pretty strong kick to it. Try that in 410/45 Colt? I don't think so. A Snake Charmer in 410 is a much better bet.

AL MOUNT · 02-20-2010, 10:52 AM

I got a .45LC Derringer once for Cowbooy Shoots... better hold her tight...

I got rid of it before I shot the ends off some of my fingers...

bluesea112 · 04-21-2010, 10:03 AM

If you want a snake slayer, any .22 lr loaded with rat shot does an adequate job. If you want a handgun capable of firing .410 shells, then "The Judge" seems to be the obvious choice. The Judge gives you 6 shots instead of just two.

Old John · 04-22-2010, 09:57 AM

I had a Bond Arms Texas Defender in .45Colt/.410, for a few years. They are not like any other derringer. The lock-up is different. They have a rebounding hammer, so they are safer. It had a trigger guard so it was easier to hold onto.
The trigger itself is a lot easier to pull than any other derringer, due to the lock work. I will buy another one of these days. My DearSon talked me out of it. I've missed it ever since. He offered me good money. But I made an OOPS!
I liked mine.

I carried it in my back pocket when I was playing bass guitar , in bars, years ago.
Yeah, they kick a little. No problem.They weigh about 21 oz. IIRC, 'bout the same weight as some j-frame .357's.

04-04-2005, 10:35 PM	#2
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,854	Re: snake slayer?? Looks like a Derringer to me! Did I miss that one. I looked at the 22 oz weight and misread .22 calibre. I had one in a .38 which was wicked. Mine had about a 50# trigger pull! I wouldn't even try one in .45 or .410 after my experience with the .38..... __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

04-05-2005, 07:50 AM	#3
inplanotx Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 8,897	Re: snake slayer?? Fired one once. Dang near ripped my palm off. Those things cause permanent flinch! Not for me. Try a snake charmer in 410 caliber. __________________

04-05-2005, 08:11 AM	#5
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	Re: snake slayer?? I fired a Derringer in .38 Special once.......I don't even want to think about one in Colt .45!

04-05-2005, 08:44 AM	#6
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,854	Re: snake slayer?? Once was enough for me, too, Racer!!!!!! Our gunsmith thought it'd be just right for my wife to carry at a time we had a very volitile case going and had been threatened and routinely shot at when at home. She never fired it and we took it back. She couldn't even fire it dry because of that 50# trigger pull. After that experience, she carried the Baby Browning for months. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

04-05-2005, 02:24 PM	#7
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	Re: snake slayer?? You think I'd shoot that thing??? No thanks, I prefer my hand and wrist UNbroken, thank you very much! __________________ My Second protects your First "I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." - Susan B Anthony

04-05-2005, 06:06 PM	#9
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,854	Re: snake slayer?? Dern, Rosie, and sorry to hear it. CTS is nothing to laugh at and all the more reason why you sure don't want to shoot that little monster, either. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

04-06-2005, 07:54 AM	#10
rosierita Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,218	Re: snake slayer?? oh yeah! for sure! LOL! fortunately i have escaped so far w/o surgery marlin. i have to get my brace out sometimes & wear it at night (i can never wear it during the day, life is just too busy ). i've been dealing w/ this since i was 15 tho. i cant think of anything specific that has caused this little "flare-up", so i'm blaming it on this "little" gun. __________________

04-06-2005, 09:42 PM	#11
MisterEd V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: LaPine, OR Posts: 110	Re: snake slayer?? How can this even be legal in the "shotgun" mode?

04-07-2005, 04:44 AM	#12
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,815	Re: snake slayer?? If that's an American Derringer, from Waco, Tx, you have a real tempest in a teacup; Ms Liz Saunders is a great lady, delivering a quality product! If you can buy it for less than $300, it's a gift. Buy it, try it, call me if you don't like it, and I'll give you your money back- I'd LOVE to have another one! __________________ Don't start no s**t and there won't be none, Terry

04-07-2005, 04:49 AM	#13
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,815	Re: snake slayer?? Please 'scuse my previous post; missed the link. Can't speak to the Bond Arms issue; I WOULD buy another American Derringer gun in the same caliber, and gladly! __________________ Don't start no s**t and there won't be none, Terry

04-09-2005, 10:11 PM	#14
Salvage33 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Shreveport, LA why leave the USA to visit a 3rd world country? Posts: 475	Re: snake slayer?? Years ago a buddy of mine bought one of those...took it to the range the first time...I was standing about 10' behind him when he fired it...caught it as it sailed through the air over his head. As far as I know, he still has it and 49 rounds of 45 Long Colt ammo. Not for the faint of heart and I would shoot it ONLY IF IT WAS THE ONLY THING I HAD!!!!!! John __________________ Living in a nudist colony takes all the fun out of Halloween.

05-08-2005, 09:35 AM	#15
Neil Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Stanwood washington Posts: 678	Re: snake slayer?? I had a Derringer in a .35 or .32(can't remember) I was storing it for family in my safe, Just looking at it and then my Banana hands and thought Heck No. My Smith 442 would disapear in my plam so I would surely not beable to manage that little bugger. __________________ God Bless America, This Great Land we call HOME.

05-24-2005, 05:25 PM	#16
45Smashemflat Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,494	Re: snake slayer?? Ditto Terry, I had an American Derringer M1 in 45ACP. Quite a handful, but was a great pocket gun and matched ammo for the 1911 I also carried. Well crafted gun. Don't really need one now with the Ti Smith. But, there is something to be said for the intimidation factor.

10-31-2009, 07:28 PM	#17
vsorrentino Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 16	Re: snake slayer?? I normally carry a S&W 637 2" snubby 38 special. Great carry gun. I just got a Snake Slayer as my BUG. Love this little thing and it packs one big punch with 410 ga self defense shot ammo. __________________ "To disarm the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them..." - George Mason http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yeeleq456g Black Powder Pistol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzfxGEkB_hs Armed Citizen Stories http://www.firearmpop.com Vinnie <>< John 3:16

11-01-2009, 12:30 PM	#18
Mosin_Nagant_Fan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,833	Re: snake slayer?? Snake killer = Pole-Arm. Why waste a bullet.

11-10-2009, 01:03 PM	#19
jrg V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 51	Re: snake slayer?? OUCH! Just OUCH! Those .410 derringers are loud and have plenty of recoil. Not for me - a .410 T/C Contender is another animal altogether.

02-19-2010, 05:58 PM	#20
Agentwil V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 264	Re: snake slayer?? I owned one of those in 45LC/410 and the trigger suuuuuccckkkks and it's not accurate so I used it for trade for a new Taurus Night Judge. Better accuracy and three more rounds to boot.

02-19-2010, 09:50 PM	#21
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: snake slayer?? If you want snake loads then 38 shot loads work well and you have a carry piece or revolver that you can enjoy shooting. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

02-20-2010, 10:47 AM	#22
petesusn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Joaquin Valley, Ca. Posts: 614	Re: snake slayer?? My Cobra .38 Derringer had a pretty strong kick to it. Try that in 410/45 Colt? I don't think so. A Snake Charmer in 410 is a much better bet. __________________ Self Defense: A basic human right The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917. A man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile...can respond with a great deal of pride and satisfaction, "I served in the U. S. Navy." John F. Kennedy VFW Life Member

02-20-2010, 10:52 AM	#23
AL MOUNT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cleaning my Thompson in The Foothills of the Ozark Mountains Posts: 3,134	Re: snake slayer?? I got a .45LC Derringer once for Cowbooy Shoots... better hold her tight... I got rid of it before I shot the ends off some of my fingers... __________________ 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment 101st Airborne Division Vietnam 67-68

04-21-2010, 10:03 AM	#24
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,262	Re: snake slayer?? If you want a snake slayer, any .22 lr loaded with rat shot does an adequate job. If you want a handgun capable of firing .410 shells, then "The Judge" seems to be the obvious choice. The Judge gives you 6 shots instead of just two.

04-22-2010, 09:57 AM	#25
Old John Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 49	Re: snake slayer?? I had a Bond Arms Texas Defender in .45Colt/.410, for a few years. They are not like any other derringer. The lock-up is different. They have a rebounding hammer, so they are safer. It had a trigger guard so it was easier to hold onto. The trigger itself is a lot easier to pull than any other derringer, due to the lock work. I will buy another one of these days. My DearSon talked me out of it. I've missed it ever since. He offered me good money. But I made an OOPS! I liked mine. I carried it in my back pocket when I was playing bass guitar , in bars, years ago. Yeah, they kick a little. No problem.They weigh about 21 oz. IIRC, 'bout the same weight as some j-frame .357's. __________________ 'Til later.... Hang in there,and Hang on! Life is a Journey... Not a Destination! Old John