When I bought one of my .308's about 3yrs ago it came with a box of hornady TAP's in 110gr. I've had no trouble rolling coyote's out to bout 700yrs with em. I haven't tried em on anything else yet since I only have the one box. But on coyotes the TAP's have worked great compaired to the 150gr Fed. B-tip's I've nailed dogs with while deer hunting.