IDPA - The Firearms Forum

tucsonpilot · 08-27-2005, 03:44 AM

I am just getting started shooting some local IDPA matches. I was just looking for any advice from someone with experience in IDPA that would be useful for a first time IDPA shooter. I am using my Glock 19 with an Uncle Mikes holster and a Fobus mag holster.

pickenup · 08-27-2005, 11:43 AM

My best advice….Shoot fast and accurate.
Just funnin with ya.

Don’t know what kind of advice you are looking for. If there is anything in particular, just ask. Anyway, here is something to consider.

One of the things that take up the most amount of “wasted” time, are mag changes. (This includes IDPA, IPSC, 3 gun, and most EVERY shooting discipline) Your standing there with gun in hand, you have just fired a shot at a target, and need to put the second one in it to finish it off. You aim, pull the trigger, and NOTHING. Only THEN do you realize that you needed to do a mag change, all this wasted “time” is eating up precious seconds. IF you can count your rounds, you will know when you have to change your mag. You would have know when that last round was in the barrel, leaving the mag empty, and be able to slap another mag in and NOT waste valuable time.

Take a look at the score cards after the match. See how many times someone was beat by just a second or two, or even tenths of a second. (I have done it, and seen it done, in hundredths)

Considering if you DON’T expend the amount of time that is “wasted” pointing and EMPTY gun at a target and trying to pull the trigger, along with the time saved when you change a mag (at the right time) this could easily make the difference in winning or loosing a position (or 3) on the score card.

Like I said, if you have a question, just ask. Someone has probably BTDT.

pickenup · 08-27-2005, 11:47 AM

My best advice….Shoot fast and accurate.
Just funnin with ya.

Don’t know what kind of advice you are looking for. If there is anything in particular, just ask. Anyway, here is something to consider.

One of the things that take up the most amount of “wasted” time, are mag changes. (This includes IDPA, IPSC, 3 gun, and most EVERY shooting discipline) Your standing there with gun in hand, you have just fired a shot at a target, and need to put the second one in it to finish it off. You aim, pull the trigger, and NOTHING. Only THEN do you realize that you needed to do a mag change, all this wasted “time” is eating up precious seconds. IF you can count your rounds, you will know when you have to change your mag. You would have known when that last round was in the barrel, leaving the mag empty, and be able to slap another mag in and NOT waste valuable time.

Take a look at the score cards after the match. See how many times someone was beat by just a second or two, or even tenths of a second. (I have done it, and seen it done, in hundredths)

Considering if you DON’T expend the amount of time that is “wasted” pointing and EMPTY gun at a target and trying to pull the trigger, along with the time saved when you change a mag (at the right time) this could easily make the difference in winning or loosing a position (or 3) on the score card.

Like I said, if you have a question, just ask. Someone has probably BTDT.

Glockgod · 08-28-2005, 08:28 PM

An exercise that has helped me. First make sure your gun is UNLOADED, put all your ammo in another room, and practice dryfiring. Be aware the Glock trigger only needs a slight release to reset itself. Once you get used to the trigger practice drawing from a holster and dryfiring. Then set an IDPA target across the room from you and pratice drawing and dryfiring at the target. After a little pratice you will have the location of the "A" zone memorized. I've been shooting IDPA for years and still use this practice excercise. When you start shooting in matches remember to take baby steps when it comes to speed. Remember that only hits count, speed will come with experience. Be safe and happy shooting !!

glocknut · 09-03-2005, 07:02 PM

Welcome Glockgod !!!!!!!!

Gooood to have more Glock fans in this place...

mike
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tucsonpilot · 09-06-2005, 10:10 PM

Thanks for the advice. I just wanted to say that I shot my first IDPA match today, and did a lot better than I thought I would. I also had a lot of fun, it was great and all the people there were friendly and made me feel really welcome.

3gunner · 09-06-2005, 10:40 PM

Just curious, did you receive any comments about the Uncle Mikes Holster? The new IDPA rules specifically outlawed those. Some MD's are enforcing the new rule strictly and others are just simply looking the other way. Glad you had a positive first time experience.

pickenup · 09-07-2005, 12:07 AM

Glad to hear it went well, and that you had fun.
Now that you have your first match under your belt, what do you think of it?
What could you do "better" next time?

Glockgod · 09-07-2005, 09:17 PM

By the way TP, nice choice on your gear. I still shoot my G19 in GSSF and IDPA, when I'm not shooting the 34 or the 26. Have a Fobus double mag holder(paddle) and a G-Code paddle holster I use for IDPA competition. Glad you enjoyed your first shoot, your'e hooked now !

tucsonpilot · 09-07-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pickenup

Glad to hear it went well, and that you had fun.
Now that you have your first match under your belt, what do you think of it?
What could you do "better" next time?

Yeah, I am hooked now. I had a great time and all the other shooters were very nice and helpful. I think that I am just going to try and keep getting my times down; the first time, I was just shooting to be accurate and trying not to look to bad. Can't wait to shoot again next week.

tucsonpilot · 09-07-2005, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3gunner

Just curious, did you receive any comments about the Uncle Mikes Holster? The new IDPA rules specifically outlawed those. Some MD's are enforcing the new rule strictly and others are just simply looking the other way. Glad you had a positive first time experience.

I didn't hear anyone say anything about the holster, as a matter of fact I notced that a few other shooters were using them as well, mabye they were being nice to me because it was my first time, but I will make a point of asking next time, and if i need to pick up a new holster...any suggestions for the new holster with the Glock 19 should I have to get one?

Glockgod · 09-08-2005, 07:38 PM

In my experience at the local club level the holster issue is no big deal. However at the state/national match level it will be enforced. As far as a new holster goes you might look into G-code. Mine had "IDPA approved" stamped right on the package. A good holster at a fair price. If you like leather try Don Hume, another good value in a holster. I started out with a DH JIT slide, still use it sometimes.

3gunner · 09-10-2005, 09:10 PM

What type or brand of gear you use really depends on why you are shooting IDPA. If you are participating in the sport solely to become more familiar with your true carry weapon and gear, then use what you will be carrying and is comfortable to you. If you are participating in IDPA as a game and your true concern is placing higher in the final results, then your equipment options are broad to say the least. Kydex holters are the most popular for the gamers. I have waisted alot of money on several different brands and styles. My personal preference is Bladetech. The Bladetech belt holster is IDPA legal and very fast on the draw. They also have a very nice IWB holster. They are not cheap at the check out counter, but they are not cheap in quality either. If you shoot this sport long enough you'll have equipment coming out of your ears.

Bladetech and Comp-Tac are probably the most popular kydex holsters I see being used today. Just like Glockgod said, you may be fine with your Uncle Mike's at local matches. However, when you decide to attend a sanctioned match Uncle Mike won't be invited. You might as well get comfortable with something that will be legal.

Good luck and may the addiction fall upon you as it has me........

Deputy Dawg · 09-10-2005, 09:53 PM

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Deputy Dawg · 09-10-2005, 09:58 PM

Yea!!!!!!!!! Now there are at least 4 of us who have seen the light and know what a GREAT gun the GLOCK really is. GLOCK RULES.

stash247 · 09-11-2005, 12:41 AM

3Gunner said it best; depends on the "why".
The whole premise to IDPA, when conceived, was to be a 'practical' competition, just as it was when what now is IPSC was begun, using the gear you live with every day.
If you carry in rig "A", almost 24/7, but practice in , and compete in, rig"B", it seems to me you have missed the point, entirely!
"We fight as we train" is no illusion,or wish, but a fact of 'muscle memory'.
The matches I shoot these days are far more focused than either of the above mentioned group's; I shoot against no one but myself, the clock, and the target; As an old guy, concerned with health and survival, in an increasingly hostile world, the ability to maintain, or improve, those skills that keep me on this earth, is vital. To attempt to 'beat' the time of another, but a game.

45Smashemflat · 09-12-2005, 12:47 PM

This one is for you Stash....

Here is my "most carried" gun - coincidently, its also my most shot gun, go figure! I practice with this piece with cheap FMJs and carry the "golden sabres" as shown or Fed Hydras. Typically it is carried in a front pocket holster by Kramer, or a ankle rig by Null. I practice both presentations. Backed up with 2 extra speed strips, I feel pretty good about getting out of most downtown altercations.

So, what does the IDPA rulebook say about front pocket or ankle carry?

08-27-2005, 03:44 AM	#1
tucsonpilot Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	IDPA I am just getting started shooting some local IDPA matches. I was just looking for any advice from someone with experience in IDPA that would be useful for a first time IDPA shooter. I am using my Glock 19 with an Uncle Mikes holster and a Fobus mag holster. -->

08-27-2005, 11:43 AM	#2
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,838	Re: IDPA My best advice….Shoot fast and accurate. Just funnin with ya. Don’t know what kind of advice you are looking for. If there is anything in particular, just ask. Anyway, here is something to consider. One of the things that take up the most amount of “wasted” time, are mag changes. (This includes IDPA, IPSC, 3 gun, and most EVERY shooting discipline) Your standing there with gun in hand, you have just fired a shot at a target, and need to put the second one in it to finish it off. You aim, pull the trigger, and NOTHING. Only THEN do you realize that you needed to do a mag change, all this wasted “time” is eating up precious seconds. IF you can count your rounds, you will know when you have to change your mag. You would have know when that last round was in the barrel, leaving the mag empty, and be able to slap another mag in and NOT waste valuable time. Take a look at the score cards after the match. See how many times someone was beat by just a second or two, or even tenths of a second. (I have done it, and seen it done, in hundredths) Considering if you DON’T expend the amount of time that is “wasted” pointing and EMPTY gun at a target and trying to pull the trigger, along with the time saved when you change a mag (at the right time) this could easily make the difference in winning or loosing a position (or 3) on the score card. Like I said, if you have a question, just ask. Someone has probably BTDT. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine

08-27-2005, 11:47 AM	#3
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,838	Re: IDPA My best advice….Shoot fast and accurate. Just funnin with ya. Don’t know what kind of advice you are looking for. If there is anything in particular, just ask. Anyway, here is something to consider. One of the things that take up the most amount of “wasted” time, are mag changes. (This includes IDPA, IPSC, 3 gun, and most EVERY shooting discipline) Your standing there with gun in hand, you have just fired a shot at a target, and need to put the second one in it to finish it off. You aim, pull the trigger, and NOTHING. Only THEN do you realize that you needed to do a mag change, all this wasted “time” is eating up precious seconds. IF you can count your rounds, you will know when you have to change your mag. You would have known when that last round was in the barrel, leaving the mag empty, and be able to slap another mag in and NOT waste valuable time. Take a look at the score cards after the match. See how many times someone was beat by just a second or two, or even tenths of a second. (I have done it, and seen it done, in hundredths) Considering if you DON’T expend the amount of time that is “wasted” pointing and EMPTY gun at a target and trying to pull the trigger, along with the time saved when you change a mag (at the right time) this could easily make the difference in winning or loosing a position (or 3) on the score card. Like I said, if you have a question, just ask. Someone has probably BTDT. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine

08-28-2005, 08:28 PM	#4
Glockgod V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 61	Re: IDPA An exercise that has helped me. First make sure your gun is UNLOADED, put all your ammo in another room, and practice dryfiring. Be aware the Glock trigger only needs a slight release to reset itself. Once you get used to the trigger practice drawing from a holster and dryfiring. Then set an IDPA target across the room from you and pratice drawing and dryfiring at the target. After a little pratice you will have the location of the "A" zone memorized. I've been shooting IDPA for years and still use this practice excercise. When you start shooting in matches remember to take baby steps when it comes to speed. Remember that only hits count, speed will come with experience. Be safe and happy shooting !!

09-03-2005, 07:02 PM	#5
glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: IDPA Welcome Glockgod !!!!!!!! Gooood to have more Glock fans in this place... mike gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone....

09-06-2005, 10:10 PM	#6
tucsonpilot Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 25	Re: IDPA Thanks for the advice. I just wanted to say that I shot my first IDPA match today, and did a lot better than I thought I would. I also had a lot of fun, it was great and all the people there were friendly and made me feel really welcome.

09-06-2005, 10:40 PM	#7
3gunner V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 120	Re: IDPA Just curious, did you receive any comments about the Uncle Mikes Holster? The new IDPA rules specifically outlawed those. Some MD's are enforcing the new rule strictly and others are just simply looking the other way. Glad you had a positive first time experience.

09-07-2005, 12:07 AM	#8
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,838	Re: IDPA Glad to hear it went well, and that you had fun. Now that you have your first match under your belt, what do you think of it? What could you do "better" next time? __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine

09-07-2005, 09:17 PM	#9
Glockgod V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 61	Re: IDPA By the way TP, nice choice on your gear. I still shoot my G19 in GSSF and IDPA, when I'm not shooting the 34 or the 26. Have a Fobus double mag holder(paddle) and a G-Code paddle holster I use for IDPA competition. Glad you enjoyed your first shoot, your'e hooked now !

09-08-2005, 07:38 PM	#12
Glockgod V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 61	Re: IDPA In my experience at the local club level the holster issue is no big deal. However at the state/national match level it will be enforced. As far as a new holster goes you might look into G-code. Mine had "IDPA approved" stamped right on the package. A good holster at a fair price. If you like leather try Don Hume, another good value in a holster. I started out with a DH JIT slide, still use it sometimes.

09-10-2005, 09:10 PM	#13
3gunner V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 120	Re: IDPA What type or brand of gear you use really depends on why you are shooting IDPA. If you are participating in the sport solely to become more familiar with your true carry weapon and gear, then use what you will be carrying and is comfortable to you. If you are participating in IDPA as a game and your true concern is placing higher in the final results, then your equipment options are broad to say the least. Kydex holters are the most popular for the gamers. I have waisted alot of money on several different brands and styles. My personal preference is Bladetech. The Bladetech belt holster is IDPA legal and very fast on the draw. They also have a very nice IWB holster. They are not cheap at the check out counter, but they are not cheap in quality either. If you shoot this sport long enough you'll have equipment coming out of your ears. Bladetech and Comp-Tac are probably the most popular kydex holsters I see being used today. Just like Glockgod said, you may be fine with your Uncle Mike's at local matches. However, when you decide to attend a sanctioned match Uncle Mike won't be invited. You might as well get comfortable with something that will be legal. Good luck and may the addiction fall upon you as it has me........

09-10-2005, 09:53 PM	#14
Deputy Dawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 2,229	Re: IDPA www.blade-tech.com __________________ LOCK and LOAD................................... GOD, GUNS,GUTS the three that keep us FREE!!!!

09-10-2005, 09:58 PM	#15
Deputy Dawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 2,229	Re: IDPA Yea!!!!!!!!! Now there are at least 4 of us who have seen the light and know what a GREAT gun the GLOCK really is. GLOCK RULES. __________________ LOCK and LOAD................................... GOD, GUNS,GUTS the three that keep us FREE!!!!

09-11-2005, 12:41 AM	#16
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,815	Re: IDPA 3Gunner said it best; depends on the "why". The whole premise to IDPA, when conceived, was to be a 'practical' competition, just as it was when what now is IPSC was begun, using the gear you live with every day. If you carry in rig "A", almost 24/7, but practice in , and compete in, rig"B", it seems to me you have missed the point, entirely! "We fight as we train" is no illusion,or wish, but a fact of 'muscle memory'. The matches I shoot these days are far more focused than either of the above mentioned group's; I shoot against no one but myself, the clock, and the target; As an old guy, concerned with health and survival, in an increasingly hostile world, the ability to maintain, or improve, those skills that keep me on this earth, is vital. To attempt to 'beat' the time of another, but a game. __________________ Don't start no s**t and there won't be none, Terry

09-12-2005, 12:47 PM	#17
45Smashemflat Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,494	Re: IDPA This one is for you Stash.... Here is my "most carried" gun - coincidently, its also my most shot gun, go figure! I practice with this piece with cheap FMJs and carry the "golden sabres" as shown or Fed Hydras. Typically it is carried in a front pocket holster by Kramer, or a ankle rig by Null. I practice both presentations. Backed up with 2 extra speed strips, I feel pretty good about getting out of most downtown altercations. So, what does the IDPA rulebook say about front pocket or ankle carry? Attached Images