Bump in the Night - The Firearms Forum

StileGuy · 08-12-2005, 11:51 AM

I bought a S&W 1911 a few days ago, and I'm now waiting the requisite ten days to pick it up. So, what should happen last night but my 3 year-old daughter falls out of bed around 2:30 a.m. After crawling back into bed, I hear an unusual thump in the backyard (suburban residential Sacramento County). One of the dogs next door barks a few times. I don't think anything of it. Then, I hear this unusual repetitive sound, like digging but with thumps in between.

I'm curious enough to go to the dark second-story bedroom window and look out; the noise stops immediately. Now I'm a bit anxious, and I'm going to go downstairs and investigate. I grab my new flashlight, and I would have grabbed my new gun, if Uncle Sam wasn't checking to make sure I am not a felon or other undesirable. I go downstairs to check out the noise, but I really can't make anything out of it. I think it was one of the next door neighbor's dogs digging around.

Here's the point: I have recently read threads on this forum regarding whether people keep their weapons loaded at home for instant access. Some people say yes, some say no. What I realized last night is that the last thing I want to worry about is loading and cocking my 1911 while I'm investigating some noise. I wasn't sure before, but now I realize I want that piece READY TO GO.

Any of y'all have interesting or otherwise enlightening "bump in the night" stories?

StileGuy

"Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." - George Orwell

Country101 · 08-12-2005, 12:43 PM

All my stories can be attributed to my wife's 2 cats or a varmit in the yard. Still, I'm about %15 paranoid, so I go check them all out with a cocked and locked .45 or my .44.

SouthernMoss · 08-12-2005, 01:59 PM

Many years ago, my first husband and I had just moved, and had boxes everywhere, including a tall pile of emptied boxes in the foyer waiting for trash day. Our bedroom was just off this foyer. In the middle of the night there was a big noise of falling boxes. Before the boxes had even finished falling, my ex had grabbed his pump shotgun and chambered a shell.

Apparently, the boxes had just overbalanced and fallen on their own, but at the time we had no way of knowing whether there was an intruder who had bumped the pile in the dark.

Jay · 08-12-2005, 06:33 PM

"bump in the night stories" are just one of many reasons to have a firearm close to me. I've educated all in my immediate family... I have a loaded (read... one in the chamber) pistol within easy reach every night. If you're gonna keep your (defensive) firearm unloaded, or locked up, you might as well sell it and buy a ball bat for every room. Just my opinion, everyone has to suit themselves in this regard.

cd45 · 08-13-2005, 01:04 PM

I have never really had a bump in the night problem. I still wleep with a loaded pistol and rifle in the room within easy reach. Right now it is a Gov't .45 and my FAL. There is also the wife's .45 and her AR15. My daughter now wants to keep her Makarov in her bedroom at night, just in case. My family is prepared.

llama.45 · 08-13-2005, 06:12 PM

the 480 is always loaded on my nightstand

West · 08-13-2005, 09:04 PM

I keep a locked and loaded AR15 with 6 30 round mags by my bed one ready to go with a round in the chamber, loaded with FMJ. My dad keeps his service Beretta 92 with one in the hole, if I were you I’d defiantly keep one in the in the chamber and on safety, thing you need to think about is the Intruder , better make sure you or your family was in grave danger before you opened up on him, positively identify a weapon before you fire.

scottmphoto · 11-22-2005, 10:46 AM

An unloaded gun, is a club. I keep 2 loaded guns close by at night. One is my 9mm and the other is a 12ga. pump. I have children and have taught them to have respect for the tools and that they are not toys. We also have 2 dogs in a fenced back yard so nobody can sneak up on us from that side.

45Smashemflat · 11-22-2005, 03:51 PM

I guess it depends on the definition of loaded. The revolvers are loaded. The pump gun has the magazine full, but it still must be shucked once.

To the earlier post, everyone has to determine what works best in their tactical environment. I for one don't go with something cocked and locked, as I like to force my brain to shift from Park to Drive after waking up. The racking of the slide accomplishes that and does not slow down my response to any real degree.

Pistolenschutze · 11-22-2005, 04:29 PM

I keep a loaded Smith 637 .38 within easy reach at the head of my bed at all times. In other rooms, there are other revolvers, out of sight, but all loaded and ready to rock. An unloaded self-defense weapons is as useless as the proverbial "tits on a boar hog." If you happen to need it, you need it RIGHT THE HELL NOW! I raised three kids with loaded weapons in the house and not once was there ever a problem of any sort. They were taught from infancy that my firearms were off-limits unless I was there to supervise.

user_error · 12-18-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

"bump in the night stories" are just one of many reasons to have a firearm close to me. I've educated all in my immediate family... I have a loaded (read... one in the chamber) pistol within easy reach every night. If you're gonna keep your (defensive) firearm unloaded, or locked up, you might as well sell it and buy a ball bat for every room. Just my opinion, everyone has to suit themselves in this regard.

Ditto. After the third rape and second murder this year in this small town in Arizona, I decided to purchase a pistol for my wife last October. We had a pump-action 20g in the hall closet at all times, but I decided that my wife's walk from work in the dark would be better accompanied by lead than the knife in her purse. Bought a Beretta 92, which was a little bit big for her but I wanted reliability and ease of shooting. I liked it so much, I decided to carry it myself and let her pick out her weapon, a Steyr S9. We're still in testing mode at the range on the Steyr but it seems an excellent choice, second only to my beloved first child, named Beretta.

The only time they aren't loaded are when I'm cleaning them. I also keep 4 spare 15 round mags around, which to some of you may seem silly but I tell ya, there's just no harm at all in being prepared. I may re-think this when my first non-steel child comes along, but I'll always keep a mag handy and within easy reach. And yeah, the shotty pump-action makes for an intimidating and immediately identifiable sound to any intruder, which is why I don't keep a round chambered.

Pistolenschutze · 12-19-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by user_error

The only time they aren't loaded are when I'm cleaning them. I also keep 4 spare 15 round mags around, which to some of you may seem silly but I tell ya, there's just no harm at all in being prepared. I may re-think this when my first non-steel child comes along, but I'll always keep a mag handy and within easy reach. And yeah, the shotty pump-action makes for an intimidating and immediately identifiable sound to any intruder, which is why I don't keep a round chambered.

I couldn't agree with you more, User. It never hurts to be prepared. I keep two speed loaders with that .38, and a Winchester 1300 pump 12 loaded with buckshot close at hand. And yeah, I too don't keep one in the chamber for precisely the same reason you don't.

user_error · 12-19-2005, 05:45 PM

*shuck shuck*

jeep45238 · 12-19-2005, 09:28 PM

I keep a .40 taurus with a loaded mag in it and the slide locked back in an opened pistol safe next to my bed. Locked during the day. Stays locked when I'm exhausted as well, I don't want to be grabbing a gun groggy and investigating, I'll take a couple seconds to make sure I heard what I heard.

That and with 2 shotties in the room as well.....neither has a round chambered. The pump of a shotty is proven to be one of the most pyscologically damaging noises, and can make people pee their pants upon hearing it. That.....and with all the ammo I have in my ammo box, I can hunker down for a while in my bedroom.

Crpdeth · 12-20-2005, 02:23 AM

Stile:

I was living alone in a garage apt, kind of a single unit type thing...It was 10:00 pm and I was standing in the dining room with all the lights out, eating a piece of cold pizza, looking at my truck through the wooden slatted blinds, about to go to bed, when a viehicle whipped into my drive and the driver got out very quickly and and apporached the door downstairs and I heard the door open, so I grabbed my shotgun as he was headed up the stairs and when he opened the upstairs door I flipped the light on and he was looking down the barrell of a 12 guage at a 3" Nitro Magnum, he was pretty wigged out repeatedly asking for some guy by name whom I didn't know, I ordered him on the couch and he declined, continueing to demand the whereabouts of the guy he was in search of, I assured him that he didn't live there and that I was about to pull the trigger, which I would have done, but I felt that due to the distance between us, I was very safe and really didn't want to go through the legal BS involved in the aftermath of scattering this guy all over the stairwell, but finally decided to try one last thing before being forced to kill him, I breached the action a bit, took a quick peek to insure that it was indeed loaded and racked it back home forcefully, this let him know that I wasn't holding a toy, nor was I playing games, then I simply told him that he was about to die...It was then that he wisely decided to descend the stairs with me right behind him, he was a tad disorented and went the long way around my truck once outside to get to his viehicle, giving me ample opportunity to read and memorize his plates.

After making the police report, the next day, I recieved a call from a friend at PD and went to talk with him, turns out this wack job was actually just an old country boy who had come to town looking for a guy who had "been with" his underage daughter and was off on his directions, he actually went to the police (seeing me read his plates) and said that after realizing his mistake he wanted to apologize but really didn't want to die in the process.

I've always wondered what might have happened if I hadn't had "ol' grandpappy" leaning against the wall, the poor guy was awfull mad and for good reason.

Now, I've had a few "middle of the night scares" where I have "woke up" in the hall or at the front door with a loaded gun in my hand, so like some of the others, I dont leave one up the pipe, it only takes half a second to load a round and I'm sure the action of doing so will wake me up, to some degree anyway, but lock my firearm up at night? Not on MY life.

Crpdeth

Deputy Dawg · 12-20-2005, 08:31 AM

I keep my 9mm Glock by the bed and a Mossberg 500 12ga shotgun in a closet a few feet away which has a 18 in barrel,on my wife side we keep a Ruger 357mag close by,and they are all loaded.

user_error · 12-20-2005, 08:42 AM

CRP: that's a hair-raising tale. Not only is it a good lesson that some people are just looking for trouble, but also to verify, absolutely certainly, that the guy is a threat that needs to be shot. My compliments on your level-headedness. Although... If this irate father comes barging into his daughter's fling's house, I gotta say I support the right of the other guy to blow him away.

Crpdeth · 12-20-2005, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by user_error

CRP: that's a hair-raising tale. Not only is it a good lesson that some people are just looking for trouble, but also to verify, absolutely certainly, that the guy is a threat that needs to be shot. My compliments on your level-headedness. Although... If this irate father comes barging into his daughter's fling's house, I gotta say I support the right of the other guy to blow him away.

Thanks for the compliment...Albeit this story happened many years ago.

The law was in my favor and I realized that I was in my right to cancel the guy, but I was living alone at that time and I had no family to protect and I was an armor plated kid...These days I know for a fact that he would see the light flip on, then see the flash of the steel shot igniting... A solem thought regarding a man who was only doing what most upset, standup, fathers would do in the same scenario, but you better be sure of who's door you are opening.

It would have been a huge nasty mess anyway, in more ways than one.

Crpdeth

Deputy Dawg · 12-20-2005, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by user_error

CRP: that's a hair-raising tale. Not only is it a good lesson that some people are just looking for trouble, but also to verify, absolutely certainly, that the guy is a threat that needs to be shot. My compliments on your level-headedness. Although... If this irate father comes barging into his daughter's fling's house, I gotta say I support the right of the other guy to blow him away.

If his daughter is under age it would be better for the fathet just to have the guy arrested instead of taking a chance of being shot,at least he could inTexas,or there is allways country justice as long as he does not get caught.Crpdeth glad you keep your cool and did not shoot him even thuogh you would of had ever right to do so.

Pistolenschutze · 12-21-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Crpdeth

The law was in my favor and I realized that I was in my right to cancel the guy, but I was living alone at that time and I had no family to protect and I was an armor plated kid...These days I know for a fact that he would see the light flip on, then see the flash of the steel shot igniting... A solem thought regarding a man who was only doing what most upset, standup, fathers would do in the same scenario, but you better be sure of who's door you are opening.

You acted most wisely and properly, CRP, at least in my opinion. I think it is well to point out that only an idiot or a fool kills another human being unless he has no other reasonable choice, and you are certainly neither one of those. In that particular situation, you did have another choice which could be exercised without unduly endangering yourself. I agree with you though that when there's family to consider, the situation is quite different. A 12 gauge leaves few witnesses.

rmeron · 02-13-2006, 03:57 PM

My Makarov with 95gr hp's and my S&W 36 with Win 110gr silver tips are in bed with me every night.

southernshooter · 03-07-2006, 10:32 PM

Me personally i keep a mossberg 500 with surefire flash and surefire laser 6 in the tube but none in the hole now should the situation arise I keep a norinco sks with 2 30rd mags cinched together and one in the pipe their all my little soft point buddys "LESS CHANCE OF A THRU AND THRU INTO MY NEIGHBORS TRUCK OR HOUSE"

Light Coat · 03-07-2006, 11:52 PM

My first wife had an unsatisfactory effect on restful sleep. She was the "Looking for trouble and God I found her" type. She was a well of late night confrontations with psycho friends. That's been a few years; so, I can't detail those any more. Life is much less exciting now; but I keep around 6 loaded hand-guns and 2 shot guns for home defense. All loaded and all in places I can get to from any point in the house. The bedroom sports my FN with a fixed bayonet.

Still as always I would say that I man is more likely to suffer and acute axe wound around my house. I grab the first available object of potential use and use it.

bangbang · 03-13-2006, 05:05 PM

I must have missed a point that seems important to me.

Do we even have the responsibility to keep our doors locked if we are prepared to protect our homes with deadly force? If not just to keep our firearms from getting stolen and into the wrong hands?

Not locking them seems like inviting intruders to me. One breaking in, would eliminate any doubt over the need to fire.

I believe its a bit naieve to leave your doors unlocked and not expect an intruder, or a theft. Arent locks our first rational protection? Or should we be "asking for trouble" because we think we will be able to protect ouselves every moment?

I can only stay awake so long eating pizza in the dark.

JohnK3 · 03-13-2006, 08:02 PM

bangbang, what's your point?

When I am at home, I rarely lock my doors. Why? Simple. Why not?

I do not have a responsibility to lock my doors. The bad guys have a responsibility to stay out of my house. You'll find no mat on my front door that says "Welcome" so that excuse is gone.

Don't let the current inversion of common sense unduly influence your thought-patterns. What legal, moral reason could someone have for coming into my house uninvited, whether I have the door locked or not? I'm not invading their privacy or their home, they're invading mine. I didn't drag them off the street, hold a gun to their head and say "Walk into my home uninvited!"

08-12-2005, 11:51 AM	#1
StileGuy Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Land of Fruits & Nuts Posts: 9	Bump in the Night I bought a S&W 1911 a few days ago, and I'm now waiting the requisite ten days to pick it up. So, what should happen last night but my 3 year-old daughter falls out of bed around 2:30 a.m. After crawling back into bed, I hear an unusual thump in the backyard (suburban residential Sacramento County). One of the dogs next door barks a few times. I don't think anything of it. Then, I hear this unusual repetitive sound, like digging but with thumps in between. I'm curious enough to go to the dark second-story bedroom window and look out; the noise stops immediately. Now I'm a bit anxious, and I'm going to go downstairs and investigate. I grab my new flashlight, and I would have grabbed my new gun, if Uncle Sam wasn't checking to make sure I am not a felon or other undesirable. I go downstairs to check out the noise, but I really can't make anything out of it. I think it was one of the next door neighbor's dogs digging around. Here's the point: I have recently read threads on this forum regarding whether people keep their weapons loaded at home for instant access. Some people say yes, some say no. What I realized last night is that the last thing I want to worry about is loading and cocking my 1911 while I'm investigating some noise. I wasn't sure before, but now I realize I want that piece READY TO GO. Any of y'all have interesting or otherwise enlightening "bump in the night" stories? StileGuy "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows." - George Orwell -->

08-12-2005, 12:43 PM	#2
Country101 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dardanelle, AR Contributor Posts: 2,045	Re: Bump in the Night All my stories can be attributed to my wife's 2 cats or a varmit in the yard. Still, I'm about %15 paranoid, so I go check them all out with a cocked and locked .45 or my .44. __________________ Gainfully employed= shooting somebody elses bullets and getting paid for it Country101

08-12-2005, 01:59 PM	#3
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	Re: Bump in the Night Many years ago, my first husband and I had just moved, and had boxes everywhere, including a tall pile of emptied boxes in the foyer waiting for trash day. Our bedroom was just off this foyer. In the middle of the night there was a big noise of falling boxes. Before the boxes had even finished falling, my ex had grabbed his pump shotgun and chambered a shell. Apparently, the boxes had just overbalanced and fallen on their own, but at the time we had no way of knowing whether there was an intruder who had bumped the pile in the dark. __________________ My Second protects your First "I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." - Susan B Anthony

08-12-2005, 06:33 PM	#4
Jay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	Re: Bump in the Night "bump in the night stories" are just one of many reasons to have a firearm close to me. I've educated all in my immediate family... I have a loaded (read... one in the chamber) pistol within easy reach every night. If you're gonna keep your (defensive) firearm unloaded, or locked up, you might as well sell it and buy a ball bat for every room. Just my opinion, everyone has to suit themselves in this regard. __________________ "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected cannot taste." "USMC 8652, 2531, RVN Jun '67, - May 69"

08-13-2005, 01:04 PM	#5
cd45 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mcloud, Oklahoma Posts: 63	Re: Bump in the Night I have never really had a bump in the night problem. I still wleep with a loaded pistol and rifle in the room within easy reach. Right now it is a Gov't .45 and my FAL. There is also the wife's .45 and her AR15. My daughter now wants to keep her Makarov in her bedroom at night, just in case. My family is prepared.

08-13-2005, 06:12 PM	#6
llama.45 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: sewanee,tennessee Posts: 406	Re: Bump in the Night the 480 is always loaded on my nightstand __________________ chris

08-13-2005, 09:04 PM	#7
West V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 62	Re: Bump in the Night I keep a locked and loaded AR15 with 6 30 round mags by my bed one ready to go with a round in the chamber, loaded with FMJ. My dad keeps his service Beretta 92 with one in the hole, if I were you I’d defiantly keep one in the in the chamber and on safety, thing you need to think about is the Intruder , better make sure you or your family was in grave danger before you opened up on him, positively identify a weapon before you fire. __________________ "Friends Dont Let Friends Buy Colts" Last edited by West; 08-13-2005 at 09:05 PM..

11-22-2005, 10:46 AM	#8
scottmphoto Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Russellville, Arkansas, USA Posts: 14	Re: Bump in the Night An unloaded gun, is a club. I keep 2 loaded guns close by at night. One is my 9mm and the other is a 12ga. pump. I have children and have taught them to have respect for the tools and that they are not toys. We also have 2 dogs in a fenced back yard so nobody can sneak up on us from that side.

11-22-2005, 03:51 PM	#9
45Smashemflat Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,494	Re: Bump in the Night I guess it depends on the definition of loaded. The revolvers are loaded. The pump gun has the magazine full, but it still must be shucked once. To the earlier post, everyone has to determine what works best in their tactical environment. I for one don't go with something cocked and locked, as I like to force my brain to shift from Park to Drive after waking up. The racking of the slide accomplishes that and does not slow down my response to any real degree.

11-22-2005, 04:29 PM	#10
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: Bump in the Night I keep a loaded Smith 637 .38 within easy reach at the head of my bed at all times. In other rooms, there are other revolvers, out of sight, but all loaded and ready to rock. An unloaded self-defense weapons is as useless as the proverbial "tits on a boar hog." If you happen to need it, you need it RIGHT THE HELL NOW! I raised three kids with loaded weapons in the house and not once was there ever a problem of any sort. They were taught from infancy that my firearms were off-limits unless I was there to supervise. __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)

12-19-2005, 05:45 PM	#13
user_error V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 130	Re: Bump in the Night shuck shuck

12-19-2005, 09:28 PM	#14
jeep45238 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 48	Re: Bump in the Night I keep a .40 taurus with a loaded mag in it and the slide locked back in an opened pistol safe next to my bed. Locked during the day. Stays locked when I'm exhausted as well, I don't want to be grabbing a gun groggy and investigating, I'll take a couple seconds to make sure I heard what I heard. That and with 2 shotties in the room as well.....neither has a round chambered. The pump of a shotty is proven to be one of the most pyscologically damaging noises, and can make people pee their pants upon hearing it. That.....and with all the ammo I have in my ammo box, I can hunker down for a while in my bedroom.

12-20-2005, 02:23 AM	#15
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Re: Bump in the Night Stile: I was living alone in a garage apt, kind of a single unit type thing...It was 10:00 pm and I was standing in the dining room with all the lights out, eating a piece of cold pizza, looking at my truck through the wooden slatted blinds, about to go to bed, when a viehicle whipped into my drive and the driver got out very quickly and and apporached the door downstairs and I heard the door open, so I grabbed my shotgun as he was headed up the stairs and when he opened the upstairs door I flipped the light on and he was looking down the barrell of a 12 guage at a 3" Nitro Magnum, he was pretty wigged out repeatedly asking for some guy by name whom I didn't know, I ordered him on the couch and he declined, continueing to demand the whereabouts of the guy he was in search of, I assured him that he didn't live there and that I was about to pull the trigger, which I would have done, but I felt that due to the distance between us, I was very safe and really didn't want to go through the legal BS involved in the aftermath of scattering this guy all over the stairwell, but finally decided to try one last thing before being forced to kill him, I breached the action a bit, took a quick peek to insure that it was indeed loaded and racked it back home forcefully, this let him know that I wasn't holding a toy, nor was I playing games, then I simply told him that he was about to die...It was then that he wisely decided to descend the stairs with me right behind him, he was a tad disorented and went the long way around my truck once outside to get to his viehicle, giving me ample opportunity to read and memorize his plates. After making the police report, the next day, I recieved a call from a friend at PD and went to talk with him, turns out this wack job was actually just an old country boy who had come to town looking for a guy who had "been with" his underage daughter and was off on his directions, he actually went to the police (seeing me read his plates) and said that after realizing his mistake he wanted to apologize but really didn't want to die in the process. I've always wondered what might have happened if I hadn't had "ol' grandpappy" leaning against the wall, the poor guy was awfull mad and for good reason. Now, I've had a few "middle of the night scares" where I have "woke up" in the hall or at the front door with a loaded gun in my hand, so like some of the others, I dont leave one up the pipe, it only takes half a second to load a round and I'm sure the action of doing so will wake me up, to some degree anyway, but lock my firearm up at night? Not on MY life. Crpdeth __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer

12-20-2005, 08:31 AM	#16
Deputy Dawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Central Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 2,234	Re: Bump in the Night I keep my 9mm Glock by the bed and a Mossberg 500 12ga shotgun in a closet a few feet away which has a 18 in barrel,on my wife side we keep a Ruger 357mag close by,and they are all loaded. __________________ LOCK and LOAD................................... GOD, GUNS,GUTS the three that keep us FREE!!!!

12-20-2005, 08:42 AM	#17
user_error V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 130	Re: Bump in the Night CRP: that's a hair-raising tale. Not only is it a good lesson that some people are just looking for trouble, but also to verify, absolutely certainly, that the guy is a threat that needs to be shot. My compliments on your level-headedness. Although... If this irate father comes barging into his daughter's fling's house, I gotta say I support the right of the other guy to blow him away.

02-13-2006, 03:57 PM	#21
rmeron Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 36	Re: Bump in the Night My Makarov with 95gr hp's and my S&W 36 with Win 110gr silver tips are in bed with me every night.

03-07-2006, 10:32 PM	#22
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: Bump in the Night Me personally i keep a mossberg 500 with surefire flash and surefire laser 6 in the tube but none in the hole now should the situation arise I keep a norinco sks with 2 30rd mags cinched together and one in the pipe their all my little soft point buddys "LESS CHANCE OF A THRU AND THRU INTO MY NEIGHBORS TRUCK OR HOUSE" __________________ Only you can see this

03-07-2006, 11:52 PM	#23
Light Coat V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Middle of Nowhere, KS Posts: 466	Re: Bump in the Night My first wife had an unsatisfactory effect on restful sleep. She was the "Looking for trouble and God I found her" type. She was a well of late night confrontations with psycho friends. That's been a few years; so, I can't detail those any more. Life is much less exciting now; but I keep around 6 loaded hand-guns and 2 shot guns for home defense. All loaded and all in places I can get to from any point in the house. The bedroom sports my FN with a fixed bayonet. Still as always I would say that I man is more likely to suffer and acute axe wound around my house. I grab the first available object of potential use and use it.

03-13-2006, 05:05 PM	#24
bangbang Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: an island in the middle of a big ocean Posts: 3	Re: Bump in the Night I must have missed a point that seems important to me. Do we even have the responsibility to keep our doors locked if we are prepared to protect our homes with deadly force? If not just to keep our firearms from getting stolen and into the wrong hands? Not locking them seems like inviting intruders to me. One breaking in, would eliminate any doubt over the need to fire. I believe its a bit naieve to leave your doors unlocked and not expect an intruder, or a theft. Arent locks our first rational protection? Or should we be "asking for trouble" because we think we will be able to protect ouselves every moment? I can only stay awake so long eating pizza in the dark. __________________ BANG!

03-13-2006, 08:02 PM	#25
JohnK3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,636	Re: Bump in the Night bangbang, what's your point? When I am at home, I rarely lock my doors. Why? Simple. Why not? I do not have a responsibility to lock my doors. The bad guys have a responsibility to stay out of my house. You'll find no mat on my front door that says "Welcome" so that excuse is gone. Don't let the current inversion of common sense unduly influence your thought-patterns. What legal, moral reason could someone have for coming into my house uninvited, whether I have the door locked or not? I'm not invading their privacy or their home, they're invading mine. I didn't drag them off the street, hold a gun to their head and say "Walk into my home uninvited!"