Plastic vs 1911

[flopshot]

"Now if you want to argue lets talk Harleys vs Honda"
that's no fun !! they'd just take the same posts and swap "harley" for "1911"
and we'd be right back where we started

[Pistolenschutze]

Originally Posted by Wideboy04

The Full size 1911 is nice but I don't need an extension for my manhood.

A most astute and incisive observation, Wide. I do think you may have hit the nail squarely on its head, as it were. Where is Mr. Freud when you need him?

[Pistolenschutze]

Originally Posted by JohnK3

Would I ever buy a GLOCK? Don't know. If this GLOCKhead foolishness keeps up, probably not. I tend to be a contrary cuss. Keep pushing something at me and I'll tell you to go to heck and might even give you directions.

Originally Posted by inplanotx

Geeze, not only do you like tupperware, but you guys have minds like collanders. Seems to me I remember another thread here that had a calling to take on another member of the Staff and try to convert him because you all had bad intel and couldn't get anything right.

OK, hold on, calm down, and back up just a bit, both of you. It would seem the two of you have let this discussion evolve from what was intended (and, I think, taken by most of us) to be nothing more than something to have a few laughs over, to something that has serious meaning. If that impression is correct, then I must sincerely apologize for starting the first thread and contributing to this one. Give me a break, guys, I posted the "Marlin" thingy just to try and rib Marlin a bit, a guy whom I've come to know, resepct, and like a great deal here on TFF. The two of you, I might add, also fall into that same category. Was I trying to convert any of you to Glock aficionados? Hell no! That will never happen, and frankly, I couldn't care less. I've said before, and I will say again, both types of weapon have their proper place in the scope of things, in my honest opinion at least. I own and shoot 1911s and I own and shoot Glocks. Argument and discussion are the essence of human exchange, and laughter is the lubricant.

[inplanotx]

Hey PS! I take no offense at any of this. I just like having these ribbings cause it has always happened and will not stop. Since the weekend, my machine at home had a problem and I cannot use the emoticons or any of the other shortcuts here when posting. This does not bother me and I guess I left out the emoticons when I posted what you quoted. Sorry if you took it wrong or if I posted it wrong. Now, get back to arguing!

[Wideboy04]

No animosity intended here at anyone, all in good clean, well maybe not all clean , fun. I'm no gun fanatic by any means. Just like to shoot, rag on brothers whether it be guns, bikes, or their wives. . And I do appreciate any info I pick up here. The only thing I like better than taking a punch is giving one.

[KyBlaster]

1911 - Yes

Glock - Kaboom er I mean No.

[Pistolenschutze]

Originally Posted by inplanotx

Hey PS! I take no offense at any of this. I just like having these ribbings cause it has always happened and will not stop. Since the weekend, my machine at home had a problem and I cannot use the emoticons or any of the other shortcuts here when posting. This does not bother me and I guess I left out the emoticons when I posted what you quoted. Sorry if you took it wrong or if I posted it wrong. Now, get back to arguing!

OK, inplano. Good to know. I just wanted to make absolutely certain we were all still on the same page of the hymnal, so to speak. This whole issue is merely a fun discussion to me, with a few barbed comments thrown in just for laughs and to yank a few chains.

Now, as to those 1911s, or should I say, those anachronistic mechanisms of the distant past . . .

Riddle me this, 1911ers, why is it EXACTLY that y'all object to the use of polymer materials on handgun frames? No, I'm serious. I've always had the impression that your objection is not truly based on their strengh of utility, but rather on traditionalism. Yeah, steel works fine for handguns, but it's so damned heavy! Why carry the base drum if you can waive the baton?

[flopshot]

"all in good clean, well maybe not all clean , fun."
wide glide has it pegged. and anyone that don't get it can k.m.a.
it is all in fun
but the glock is better
i'm rubber you're glue!!!!!!!!

[Glockgod]

A Glock forum would be nice, even a "Tupperware" forum would be OK. But hey I like 1911 pistols too, just don't own one right now.

[JohnK3]

Originally Posted by Pistolenschutze

A most astute and incisive observation, Wide. I do think you may have hit the nail squarely on its head, as it were. Where is Mr. Freud when you need him?

Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.

Now, see how the mere mention that someone doesn't agree with them cause the GLOCKheads to act like a bunch of Muslims reading the funny papers. [grin]

[flopshot]

i couldn't care less if someone doesn't like what i do. but the conversation always turns to "it's ugly", " ya can't change the grips", ya can't screw crap to it" pretty lame logic.
and then comes the played our history lesson. yada yada yada

[Country101]

Originally Posted by Pistolenschutze

Riddle me this, 1911ers, why is it EXACTLY that y'all object to the use of polymer materials on handgun frames? No, I'm serious. I've always had the impression that your objection is not truly based on their strengh of utility, but rather on traditionalism. Yeah, steel works fine for handguns, but it's so damned heavy! Why carry the base drum if you can waive the baton?

Here's the reason why I only trust good metal: My dad and papaw were boith pipeline welders and I have worked as a welder for several years. I know what metal does and how strong it is. I dont like plastic. It's too brittle. You get a defect and the whole thing is shot. I can fix metal. Plastic just goes in the trash can. Plus, I like the weight. I aint a gorilla, but a little weight in my hands feels good.Weight on my hip doesnt bother me a bit. I dont even know it's there. I've got a good belt and a good holster that support it well and that is the end of the weight issue. Plus, there are some advantages to the extra weight. If you're up close and feel like it, just wack them over the head. Not only is it better on you legally, it just makes you feel good.

[inplanotx]

I go along with what Country said. Metal gives more weight, but it tames more recoil. The balance of a 1911 is exactly over your hand. The gun does not want to tumble barrel first if you open your hand. It just lays there on top of your open hand because it's better balanced. Just my $.02.

[wolfgang2000]

Country, all my NEW hammers have synthetic handles. These NEW materials allow for comfort for the hand, but still allows a good accurate strike.

My, Isn't that what a Glock does???

[Country101]

Wolfgang, when I think of a good hammer, I think of Eastwing. I've seen them old as dirt and been through hell and still been top shape. And they are metal. Just a little rubber to pad you hands. I'll drive my nails or drive tacks with METAL 22 oz or .45 caliber.

[wolfgang2000]

Country, I wouldn't know a Eastwing hammer from a Westwing hammer. I glad that you like your 1911.

I was just pointing out that a whole gambit of industries have imbraced synthetic materials, they preform well.

To quote the March issue of American Rifleman, in describing the new S&W M&P pistol "As a proper 21st century semi-auto the M&P has a polymer frame".

I built and carried 1911s. They are ok, just not my choice. I like and trust my Glocks.

[Wideboy04]

It seems that the original post has been taken out of its context. Plastic, covers all handguns with a polymer frame. Sort of a way to give a advantage over the 1911 with more votes. Like the CZ 100, H&K P2000, Kimber Pro Ten ll, who probably has more 1911's than any other maker, and the Charles Daly M-5 Ultra-X Combact. Hummm, did I mention a couple of the top 1911 makers? I say Plastic wins this contest on style and grace alone.

[stetson]

I own both and I'll take tupperware anyday.I don't like the weight and
like the polymer gun.

[flopshot]

"It seems that the original post has been taken out of its context. Plastic, covers all handguns with a polymer frame."
around here , the word "plastic" is usually uttered while spitting on the ground and mixing some choice four letter words into a sentence ending with the name "Glock"
as far as the numbers, i thought the 1911 had the benifit of multiple mfg's in it's favor. only one maker of Glocks being compared to many 1911's

[Marlin T]

Originally Posted by inplanotx

When you ease back on the trigger of a 1911, it doesn't stack and it don't go...............SPROING!!!!!!!!! A 1911 breaks like glass! Gives you more control as to where the bullet will go.

Call it a polymer or plastic. Same by either name and then charge your customers a good deal of money because its a "space age" toy. I call it cheapening the manufacturing process so they can make more profit!

Geez inplanotx, why don''t you tell us what you really think LOL By the way, thanks for that 'article' that you wrote. I found it very enlightening.

So does the Beretta 92F fall into the 1911 category? I love mine, but I also need a .45 I just can't see myself getting a Glock. BUT that new XD45acp looks interesting, but then again I haven't held one to see how it feels.

[polishshooter]

Originally Posted by JohnK3

Now, see how the mere mention that someone doesn't agree with them cause the GLOCKheads to act like a bunch of Muslims reading the funny papers.

[grin]


Now THAT was a good quote if I EVER heard one....


And this is NOT the FIRST time somebody has declared the 1911 "dead..." either...

WHY must the 1911 "die" because of the Glock? I mean, even Jennings and High Point "peacefully coexist!" And High Points are "plastic" TOO!

Methinks THERE is a little Freudian going on with them Glockies TOO...

[inplanotx]

Geez inplanotx, why don''t you tell us what you really think LOL By the way, thanks for that 'article' that you wrote. I found it very enlightening.

I did not write the article. Read the last line of my cut and paste. It was written by Jeff Cooper. If you do not know who he is, do a search and find out!!!!!!!!!!

[flopshot]

"Methinks THERE is a little Freudian going on with them Glockies TOO..."

Freudian ? you want Freudian ? i don't see any Glock owners gold plating their phalic symbols.

[inplanotx]

Originally Posted by flopshot

"Methinks THERE is a little Freudian going on with them Glockies TOO..."

Freudian ? you want Freudian ? i don't see any Glock owners gold plating their phalic symbols.

Can't gold plate plastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[flopshot]

don't need to gold plate. our's are just fine the way they are. i think that plating thing is an attempt to compensate for some other SHORTcoming