Good 9mm - The Firearms Forum

thunderstruck507 · 03-15-2006, 12:33 AM

Kinda interested in some options for a new 9mm

NO GLOCK ALLOWED. I don't care for the look, feel, or mechanics of them.

Any ideas for me to look at?

mhammer3333 · 03-15-2006, 02:07 AM

I don't think you will find a more mechanically sound 9mm than the glock. If your looking for something else you may concider the Beretta 90two. Beautiful gun.

punchie · 03-15-2006, 06:02 AM

CZ, SIG, any of the top 1911s chambered in 9mm.

LDBennett · 03-15-2006, 06:38 AM

I particularly like the CZ75B series of guns. I think you get the most gun for the least money with CZ's. All metal is forever or almost. Plastic anything has a limited life especially under the duress that the firing of ammunition imparts to any gun. I think the ergonomics of the CZ to be perfect for me (relatively small hands). Anyone wanting a 9mm pistol should be looking at CZ's!

LDBennett

user_error · 03-15-2006, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderstruck507

Kinda interested in some options for a new 9mm

NO GLOCK ALLOWED. I don't care for the look, feel, or mechanics of them.

Any ideas for me to look at?

If looks, feel and mechanics are your thing, try a beretta 92fs, my first handgun. Great shooting gun, reliable, sexy-smooth action, lots of safety features, easy to break down and learn, etc. And they're just SWEET lookin'

If you're not looking to break the bank, taurus is a perfectly good economy gun that I've heard lots about. For about 200 less you can also get a ruger p89, which we got for Dad about a month ago, and he loves it. It's pretty similar to the beretta in mechanics-safety is located in the same spot, about the same size in your hand, etc., except a bit different style. Have fun and take your time! Gun shopping is probably the most fun I have!

Pistolenschutze · 03-15-2006, 08:31 AM

Take a close look at the Steyrs, Thunder. Same basic striker-fired action as the Glocks, but a very different feel.

Familyguy · 03-15-2006, 12:12 PM

H&K P7...if you find a 'police trade-in' (dept mark ground off of slide), they are pretty reasonably priced. Got mine for a little over seven bills.

Star BM or CZ, too.

JohnK3 · 03-15-2006, 12:28 PM

I'll cast my vote for the CZ75B. Reliable, accurate, pretty.

thunderstruck507 · 03-15-2006, 02:46 PM

Forgot to add double action is a plus but not required

My roommate has a berretta and I like it a lot, we tested a Sig 9mm since he has a Sig .45 but something about it was off to me, I just can't place what.

I have a couple uncles with Glocks and I've simply found nothing about them I enjoy.

I liked the feel of the Walther but I've heard nothing but bad things about them.

Familyguy · 03-15-2006, 03:41 PM

H&KP7

H&KP7

H&KP7

H&KP7

The -M8 has a normal mag release. If you don't care about that, the PSP (with the euro style release) is also reasonable.

btw, those Sigs are damn fine guns, too.

indynotch50 · 03-15-2006, 09:13 PM

How about the ruger p series or the new springfield XDs? Those might be good choices, more people may advise on these options.

Light Coat · 03-15-2006, 09:22 PM

The 92F isn't bad should be able to ring up a Taurus copy a bit cheaper. There are some nice copies of the old Belgian High Power out there too. Comes down to what you want to spend and what you are looking for in aesthetics and function. There are also some decent deals on surplus Walther P-1 pistols out there; old design, decent mechanically and not everybody and their dog is out there shooting one.

Of course, if I wanted a modern pistola; I would be bothering a Walther dealer for a P-99. That's me. Lilely to get no agreement on my personal tastes.

stash247 · 03-15-2006, 10:08 PM

Good 9mm Pistols is a big order; for what purpose?
As a Martial pistol, the Hi-Power takes a back seat to no one, but, if you gotta put it in a pocket, it's big!
The CZ-75 Family approach the Browning grip angle, and dimensions, with a double action trigger.
A pocket gun deserves the consideration of the Kahr MK-9, heavy, but eats anything, and the Rohrbaugh 9mm, which is the size of a PPK-S, but in 9mm P, no extra pessure loads allowed.
Pick your poison!

southernshooter · 03-15-2006, 11:06 PM

Thats a hard question to answer. It all depends on you hand preferences and the overall feel of the gun in your hands and rather or not you want a fullsize or a compact. Your best bet is to go to a Gun Store and try them out

thunderstruck507 · 03-16-2006, 01:12 AM

yeah i know, i was just hoping for some ideas on things to look for

Wideboy04 · 03-19-2006, 06:46 PM

I've got three nines, Taurus PT908, favorite of the bunch. Feels and shoots great, DA/SA. Kahr PM9, conceal carry, shoots very well for a compact, grips are small but fine with finger extension, LDA. Taurus PT 111 PRO, shoots very nice for a compact, feels good in the hands with the full grip, a little chunky for carry but will do, DA. Dollars and Purpose, good luck.

WB

southernshooter · 03-19-2006, 10:00 PM

Walther P99 Beratta 92

tj3006 · 03-19-2006, 11:05 PM

The two 9mms I like are the browning High power , and the CZ 75b. I Sold my High power to by the CZ beacuse I read an article that quoted several of the top pistol smiths in saying the Browning will faill with a steady diet of +ps. I am not a big fan of the 9 for defence anyway so I want the best loads available...tj3006

denfoote · 03-20-2006, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Familyguy

H&KP7

H&KP7

H&KP7

H&KP7

The -M8 has a normal mag release. If you don't care about that, the PSP (with the euro style release) is also reasonable.

btw, those Sigs are damn fine guns, too.

Walther P5

Walther P5

Walther P5

Walther P5

Walther P5

The Walther has the mag release right where it should be: on the heel of the grip!!!

The ONLY Sig worth it's salt is the P6.

Kahr · 03-20-2006, 08:33 PM

Kahr T9
Kahr K9
Springfield XD Compact
S&W 5906
H&K P2000

Have all love all.

Laserlips · 03-21-2006, 06:47 PM

The absolute best 9mm pistol I've owned, (and still own) is the Sig P239. I have a Crimson Trace Lasergrip ordered for it. I purchased this pistol new about 10 years ago, and it has NEVER malfunctioned in any way. Very accurate, 100% reliable.

Other 9mm's I own: S&W 3913/Walther P1/Bersa Thunder 9(UC)/Star BM/KelTec P11.

Other 9mm's I've OWNED in the past, but got rid of for one reason or another.

Taurus PT92/Tokarev/Glock26/Browning HP.

If you have an interest in a 9mm that is slim enough for cc, the P239 will do the trick. With the CT Lasergrips you should be deadly accurate under any lighting conditions than direct sunlight. Even in direct sunlight I can see the dot well enough (on my S&W 638 Bodyguard)for defensive accuracy from 5-7 yards which I consider self-defense range. I expect the same potential with the Sig Lasergrips.

I hear the CZ PCR (and other CZ's) are excellent, as the Smith & Wesson CS9, Walther P5, and the "cost too much in this house" H&K P7M8.

You should hold and become comfortable with any firearm you are considering purchasing, and try and fire one if possible.

JMO- Best Wishes,
JP

slow944 · 03-23-2006, 05:58 PM

I've had a lot of 9's and liked them all but my favorite is the Taurus PT99, 15+1 DA/SA and a nice feel in the hand with pacmyher grips. IMHO.

froggy6583 · 03-23-2006, 07:33 PM

Ruger P series or the Beratta 92 or another one that I found that I liked is the FEG 9mm.

Ray

BigZig · 03-25-2006, 07:50 PM

You said you tried the Sig 9mm. Which one? I have the P226 (same size as the P220ST I own) and it is a great shooter! I also have a CZ75B and an XD9. You can change out the grips on the Sig and it feels like a different gun altogether. I have large hands so I installed the Hogue wraparound grips with finger grooves. With the XD, you don't have any grip choices and it feels a little small for me. Not sure about the CZ grip choices. Of the three the XD shoots the best and has been most reliable, but I love all three!

meandmy45s · 04-23-2006, 02:37 PM

If the Glock is out then I say the Sig P226 or P228. My 226 was incredibly accurate, I had 0 malfunctions over the 10-years that I owned it. I also have a Berreta, and Glock in 9mm. My Berreta Elite II is a good looking pistol that has functioned flawlessly, but it feels like it fills up the hand a bit and I think the Sig has a better trigger.

One of the names that doesn't show up a lot on here are the Smith & Wesson tactical series of pistols. It has a number of safety features that some (not me) appreciate for carry purposes and home defense. I own one in 40S&W and it is very accurate and I still have yet to experience a malfunction. You have a lot of great choices it will probably come down to purpose and feel as most of the pistols are real shooters.

Good luck.

03-15-2006, 12:33 AM	#1
thunderstruck507 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 107	Good 9mm Kinda interested in some options for a new 9mm NO GLOCK ALLOWED. I don't care for the look, feel, or mechanics of them. Any ideas for me to look at? -->

03-15-2006, 02:07 AM	#2
mhammer3333 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 14	Re: Good 9mm I don't think you will find a more mechanically sound 9mm than the glock. If your looking for something else you may concider the Beretta 90two. Beautiful gun.

03-15-2006, 06:02 AM	#3
punchie Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Chesterfield, VA Posts: 784	Re: Good 9mm CZ, SIG, any of the top 1911s chambered in 9mm. __________________ AN ARMED SOCIETY IS A POLITE SOCIETY

03-15-2006, 06:38 AM	#4
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,710	Re: Good 9mm I particularly like the CZ75B series of guns. I think you get the most gun for the least money with CZ's. All metal is forever or almost. Plastic anything has a limited life especially under the duress that the firing of ammunition imparts to any gun. I think the ergonomics of the CZ to be perfect for me (relatively small hands). Anyone wanting a 9mm pistol should be looking at CZ's! LDBennett

03-15-2006, 08:31 AM	#6
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: Good 9mm Take a close look at the Steyrs, Thunder. Same basic striker-fired action as the Glocks, but a very different feel. __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)

03-15-2006, 12:12 PM	#7
Familyguy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 40	Re: Good 9mm H&K P7...if you find a 'police trade-in' (dept mark ground off of slide), they are pretty reasonably priced. Got mine for a little over seven bills. Star BM or CZ, too.

03-15-2006, 12:28 PM	#8
JohnK3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,636	Re: Good 9mm I'll cast my vote for the CZ75B. Reliable, accurate, pretty.

03-15-2006, 02:46 PM	#9
thunderstruck507 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 107	Re: Good 9mm Forgot to add double action is a plus but not required My roommate has a berretta and I like it a lot, we tested a Sig 9mm since he has a Sig .45 but something about it was off to me, I just can't place what. I have a couple uncles with Glocks and I've simply found nothing about them I enjoy. I liked the feel of the Walther but I've heard nothing but bad things about them.

03-15-2006, 03:41 PM	#10
Familyguy Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 40	Re: Good 9mm H&KP7 H&KP7 H&KP7 H&KP7 The -M8 has a normal mag release. If you don't care about that, the PSP (with the euro style release) is also reasonable. btw, those Sigs are damn fine guns, too.

03-15-2006, 09:13 PM	#11
indynotch50 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 37	Re: Good 9mm How about the ruger p series or the new springfield XDs? Those might be good choices, more people may advise on these options.

03-15-2006, 09:22 PM	#12
Light Coat V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Middle of Nowhere, KS Posts: 466	Re: Good 9mm The 92F isn't bad should be able to ring up a Taurus copy a bit cheaper. There are some nice copies of the old Belgian High Power out there too. Comes down to what you want to spend and what you are looking for in aesthetics and function. There are also some decent deals on surplus Walther P-1 pistols out there; old design, decent mechanically and not everybody and their dog is out there shooting one. Of course, if I wanted a modern pistola; I would be bothering a Walther dealer for a P-99. That's me. Lilely to get no agreement on my personal tastes.

03-15-2006, 10:08 PM	#13
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,815	Re: Good 9mm Good 9mm Pistols is a big order; for what purpose? As a Martial pistol, the Hi-Power takes a back seat to no one, but, if you gotta put it in a pocket, it's big! The CZ-75 Family approach the Browning grip angle, and dimensions, with a double action trigger. A pocket gun deserves the consideration of the Kahr MK-9, heavy, but eats anything, and the Rohrbaugh 9mm, which is the size of a PPK-S, but in 9mm P, no extra pessure loads allowed. Pick your poison! __________________ Don't start no s**t and there won't be none, Terry

03-15-2006, 11:06 PM	#14
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: Good 9mm Thats a hard question to answer. It all depends on you hand preferences and the overall feel of the gun in your hands and rather or not you want a fullsize or a compact. Your best bet is to go to a Gun Store and try them out __________________ Only you can see this

03-16-2006, 01:12 AM	#15
thunderstruck507 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 107	Re: Good 9mm yeah i know, i was just hoping for some ideas on things to look for

03-19-2006, 06:46 PM	#16
Wideboy04 Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 37	Re: Good 9mm I've got three nines, Taurus PT908, favorite of the bunch. Feels and shoots great, DA/SA. Kahr PM9, conceal carry, shoots very well for a compact, grips are small but fine with finger extension, LDA. Taurus PT 111 PRO, shoots very nice for a compact, feels good in the hands with the full grip, a little chunky for carry but will do, DA. Dollars and Purpose, good luck. WB

03-19-2006, 10:00 PM	#17
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: Good 9mm Walther P99 Beratta 92 __________________ Only you can see this

03-19-2006, 11:05 PM	#18
tj3006 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 13	Re: Good 9mm The two 9mms I like are the browning High power , and the CZ 75b. I Sold my High power to by the CZ beacuse I read an article that quoted several of the top pistol smiths in saying the Browning will faill with a steady diet of +ps. I am not a big fan of the 9 for defence anyway so I want the best loads available...tj3006

03-20-2006, 08:33 PM	#20
Kahr V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Covington, GA. Posts: 146	Re: Good 9mm Kahr T9 Kahr K9 Springfield XD Compact S&W 5906 H&K P2000 Have all love all. __________________ You don't want to see me in all black with them choppers, fully automatic sounding like a helicopter.

03-21-2006, 06:47 PM	#21
Laserlips V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 72	Re: Good 9mm The absolute best 9mm pistol I've owned, (and still own) is the Sig P239. I have a Crimson Trace Lasergrip ordered for it. I purchased this pistol new about 10 years ago, and it has NEVER malfunctioned in any way. Very accurate, 100% reliable. Other 9mm's I own: S&W 3913/Walther P1/Bersa Thunder 9(UC)/Star BM/KelTec P11. Other 9mm's I've OWNED in the past, but got rid of for one reason or another. Taurus PT92/Tokarev/Glock26/Browning HP. If you have an interest in a 9mm that is slim enough for cc, the P239 will do the trick. With the CT Lasergrips you should be deadly accurate under any lighting conditions than direct sunlight. Even in direct sunlight I can see the dot well enough (on my S&W 638 Bodyguard)for defensive accuracy from 5-7 yards which I consider self-defense range. I expect the same potential with the Sig Lasergrips. I hear the CZ PCR (and other CZ's) are excellent, as the Smith & Wesson CS9, Walther P5, and the "cost too much in this house" H&K P7M8. You should hold and become comfortable with any firearm you are considering purchasing, and try and fire one if possible. JMO- Best Wishes, JP __________________ "Laus Deo"

03-23-2006, 05:58 PM	#22
slow944 Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10	Re: Good 9mm I've had a lot of 9's and liked them all but my favorite is the Taurus PT99, 15+1 DA/SA and a nice feel in the hand with pacmyher grips. IMHO.

03-23-2006, 07:33 PM	#23
froggy6583 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Southwest GA Posts: 311	Re: Good 9mm Ruger P series or the Beratta 92 or another one that I found that I liked is the FEG 9mm. Ray __________________ GIT-R-DONE

03-25-2006, 07:50 PM	#24
BigZig V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: New York Posts: 80	Re: Good 9mm You said you tried the Sig 9mm. Which one? I have the P226 (same size as the P220ST I own) and it is a great shooter! I also have a CZ75B and an XD9. You can change out the grips on the Sig and it feels like a different gun altogether. I have large hands so I installed the Hogue wraparound grips with finger grooves. With the XD, you don't have any grip choices and it feels a little small for me. Not sure about the CZ grip choices. Of the three the XD shoots the best and has been most reliable, but I love all three!

04-23-2006, 02:37 PM	#25
meandmy45s V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 94	Re: Good 9mm If the Glock is out then I say the Sig P226 or P228. My 226 was incredibly accurate, I had 0 malfunctions over the 10-years that I owned it. I also have a Berreta, and Glock in 9mm. My Berreta Elite II is a good looking pistol that has functioned flawlessly, but it feels like it fills up the hand a bit and I think the Sig has a better trigger. One of the names that doesn't show up a lot on here are the Smith & Wesson tactical series of pistols. It has a number of safety features that some (not me) appreciate for carry purposes and home defense. I own one in 40S&W and it is very accurate and I still have yet to experience a malfunction. You have a lot of great choices it will probably come down to purpose and feel as most of the pistols are real shooters. Good luck.