WWII Trivia - Page 8 - The Firearms Forum

Pistolenschutze · 11-17-2006, 05:50 PM

X, you could well be right, though my source says that the name was changed from the German Saxe-Coburg-Gotha at the outset of World War II, not World War I. According to it, the now Queen Elizabeth II even had a cousin tried and found guilty of war crimes.
http://www.comedy-zone.net/triviazone/history/page2.htm

Frankly, your contention that it was changed at the outset of World War I seems more reasonable to me.

Pistolenschutze · 11-17-2006, 05:56 PM

Here's one for that pesky Germanophobe Polishshooter:

What was the heaviest tank ever built? Hint: It was in World War II, and yes, it was German.

polishshooter · 11-17-2006, 07:36 PM

The Maus, only SLIGHTLY more worthless than the Tiger....

Pistolenschutze · 11-17-2006, 07:58 PM

Well, I have to concede that you are correct . . . however, THE TIGER WAS NOT USELESS. IT ATE M4s FOR BREAKFAST!

17thfabn · 11-17-2006, 08:16 PM

Polish you are correct, the 75mm pack howitzer was the last U.S artillery piece designed to be towed by horse.

There were several versions of the 75mm howitzer:
1. One designed to be broken down and packed by mules.
2. One designed to be air dropable for paratrooper use.
3. One designed to be pulled by horses, to be used as a cavalry gun.
4. A heavier version for use as an infantry gun.

The gun and recoil were common between all four models, the carriages varied.

The carriage of the infantry gun version was also used for the M3 105mm infantry howitzer. (this NOT the standard M2 105mm howitzer)

17thfabn · 11-17-2006, 08:21 PM

Inplanotx, I had heard that the French Foreign Legion origanily was quite effective in Vietnam. It got out that they were a lot of former German Army WW II vets, including some who may have been SS men. The French bowing to public pressure replaced these Legionares with others with less questionable pasts, but who were also less effective. I believe I heard that years ago on the G. Gorden Liddy show. Don't know how true it is.

17thfabn · 11-17-2006, 08:41 PM

This U.S. General was commander of U.S. forces in the European Theater of Operations. He may have had General Eisenhower's job if he had not been killed in a plane crash.

Marlin · 11-17-2006, 08:51 PM

This item from a website on European Royalty would seem to give credance to IPT's comments. I included the url for those that would like to go to the source.

The British Royal Family
Their Last Name

The royal family has little use for last names - after all, everyone knows who they are.

Princess Diana did not take back her maiden name, Spencer, after her divorce; she continued to be known simply as "Diana." The queen signs official documents "Elizabeth R." The R stands for Regina, which means "queen." (Regina is not one of her given names; she was baptised Elizabeth Alexandra Mary.)

But the royal family does have a last name, and they do use it from time to time. This wasn't always the case. Queen Victoria's husband, Prince Albert, was a member of the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, so her descendants were part of that dynasty. This, however, was not the family's last name. They didn't have one, because they didn't need one, so they didn't worry about it.

Experts later worried about it for them and decided their name was probably "Witten" (or maybe even Wipper).

The royal family's official name, or lack thereof, became a problem during World War I, when people began to mutter that Saxe-Coburg-Gotha sounded far too German. King George V and his family needed a new, English-sounding name. After considering every possible name, from Plantagenet to Tudor-Stuart to simply England, the king and his advisors chose the name Windsor.

To this day, the British royal family is known as the House of Windsor. When Princess Elizabeth (the current queen) served as a subaltern in the Auxiliary Territorial Service during World War II, she was called "Elizabeth Windsor." Elizabeth married Prince Philip of Greece, whose family name was Mountbatten, and eventually she decreed that most of her descendants would be called Mountbatten-Windsor. Princess Anne used this name in 1973 when she married Captain Mark Phillips.

However, according to statements made by the queen, it appears that Windsor is still the official family name for any British royal who is styled "Royal Highness." The queen's youngest son, Prince Edward, the Earl of Wessex, has used the name Edward Windsor professionally. His wife calls herself Sophie Wessex.

http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/England/Windsor/

Xracer · 11-18-2006, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlin

Elizabeth married Prince Philip of Greece, whose family name was Mountbatten*.........

*Mountbatten was also a changed name. Prior to WWI it had been Battenburg.

Pistolenschutze · 11-18-2006, 10:15 AM

What was the profession of Nazi SS commander Heinrich Himmler prior his involvment with the Nazi party?

polishshooter · 11-18-2006, 08:22 PM

The French Foreign Legion for the most part is about the only French Regular unit that is worth a crap, even IF they know only too well how to "Lose Gloriously...." They are actually pretty good....

I guess the rest of the French Army just knows how to lose "ingloriously....:

Actually, there were a few fights in Africa and the Far East after WWII where the 2nd Parachutiste Legere Etrange did rather well, almost as many battle ribbons as the 101st or the 82nd....

I think they have an armored regiment or division which is also good too, I think it fought in the First gulf War next to the Marines....but I could be wrong....

Pistolenschutze · 11-19-2006, 11:55 AM

The French Foreign Legion (French: Légion Étrangère), was created in 1831 under the reign of King Louis Phillipe after the July Revolution of 1830. It has survived so long, according to Colonel John Elting, professional soldier and historian, because,

"The French, being a thrifty and practical people, have always been eager to let any available foreigners assist them in any necessary bleeding and dying for la Patrie."

11-17-2006, 05:50 PM	#176
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: WWII Trivia X, you could well be right, though my source says that the name was changed from the German Saxe-Coburg-Gotha at the outset of World War II, not World War I. According to it, the now Queen Elizabeth II even had a cousin tried and found guilty of war crimes. http://www.comedy-zone.net/triviazone/history/page2.htm Frankly, your contention that it was changed at the outset of World War I seems more reasonable to me. __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)

11-17-2006, 05:56 PM	#177
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: WWII Trivia Here's one for that pesky Germanophobe Polishshooter: What was the heaviest tank ever built? Hint: It was in World War II, and yes, it was German. __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)

11-17-2006, 07:36 PM	#178
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,879	Re: WWII Trivia The Maus, only SLIGHTLY more worthless than the Tiger.... __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

11-17-2006, 07:58 PM	#179
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: WWII Trivia Well, I have to concede that you are correct . . . however, THE TIGER WAS NOT USELESS. IT ATE M4s FOR BREAKFAST! __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)

11-17-2006, 08:16 PM	#180
17thfabn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: North bank of the mighty Ohio River Posts: 847	Re: WWII Trivia Polish you are correct, the 75mm pack howitzer was the last U.S artillery piece designed to be towed by horse. There were several versions of the 75mm howitzer: 1. One designed to be broken down and packed by mules. 2. One designed to be air dropable for paratrooper use. 3. One designed to be pulled by horses, to be used as a cavalry gun. 4. A heavier version for use as an infantry gun. The gun and recoil were common between all four models, the carriages varied. The carriage of the infantry gun version was also used for the M3 105mm infantry howitzer. (this NOT the standard M2 105mm howitzer) __________________ "Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world!" Albert Einstein "The opportunist thinks of me and today. The statesman thinks of us and tomorrow." Dwight D. Eisenhower, U.S. President & Five Star General. Rock and Roll forever, rap, hip hop and disco never!

11-17-2006, 08:21 PM	#181
17thfabn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: North bank of the mighty Ohio River Posts: 847	Re: WWII Trivia Inplanotx, I had heard that the French Foreign Legion origanily was quite effective in Vietnam. It got out that they were a lot of former German Army WW II vets, including some who may have been SS men. The French bowing to public pressure replaced these Legionares with others with less questionable pasts, but who were also less effective. I believe I heard that years ago on the G. Gorden Liddy show. Don't know how true it is. __________________ "Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world!" Albert Einstein "The opportunist thinks of me and today. The statesman thinks of us and tomorrow." Dwight D. Eisenhower, U.S. President & Five Star General. Rock and Roll forever, rap, hip hop and disco never!

11-17-2006, 08:41 PM	#182
17thfabn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: North bank of the mighty Ohio River Posts: 847	Re: WWII Trivia This U.S. General was commander of U.S. forces in the European Theater of Operations. He may have had General Eisenhower's job if he had not been killed in a plane crash. __________________ "Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world!" Albert Einstein "The opportunist thinks of me and today. The statesman thinks of us and tomorrow." Dwight D. Eisenhower, U.S. President & Five Star General. Rock and Roll forever, rap, hip hop and disco never!

11-17-2006, 08:51 PM	#183
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,854	Re: WWII Trivia This item from a website on European Royalty would seem to give credance to IPT's comments. I included the url for those that would like to go to the source. *The British Royal Family* *Their Last Name* The royal family has little use for last names - after all, everyone knows who they are. Princess Diana did not take back her maiden name, Spencer, after her divorce; she continued to be known simply as "Diana." The queen signs official documents "Elizabeth R." The R stands for Regina, which means "queen." (Regina is not one of her given names; she was baptised Elizabeth Alexandra Mary.) But the royal family does have a last name, and they do use it from time to time. This wasn't always the case. Queen Victoria's husband, Prince Albert, was a member of the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, so her descendants were part of that dynasty. This, however, was not the family's last name. They didn't have one, because they didn't need one, so they didn't worry about it. Experts later worried about it for them and decided their name was probably "Witten" (or maybe even Wipper). The royal family's official name, or lack thereof, became a problem during World War I, when people began to mutter that Saxe-Coburg-Gotha sounded far too German. King George V and his family needed a new, English-sounding name. After considering every possible name, from Plantagenet to Tudor-Stuart to simply England, the king and his advisors chose the name Windsor. To this day, the British royal family is known as the House of Windsor. When Princess Elizabeth (the current queen) served as a subaltern in the Auxiliary Territorial Service during World War II, she was called "Elizabeth Windsor." Elizabeth married Prince Philip of Greece, whose family name was Mountbatten, and eventually she decreed that most of her descendants would be called Mountbatten-Windsor. Princess Anne used this name in 1973 when she married Captain Mark Phillips. However, according to statements made by the queen, it appears that Windsor is still the official family name for any British royal who is styled "Royal Highness." The queen's youngest son, Prince Edward, the Earl of Wessex, has used the name Edward Windsor professionally. His wife calls herself Sophie Wessex. http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/England/Windsor/ __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

11-18-2006, 10:15 AM	#185
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: WWII Trivia What was the profession of Nazi SS commander Heinrich Himmler prior his involvment with the Nazi party? __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)

11-18-2006, 08:22 PM	#186
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,879	Re: WWII Trivia The French Foreign Legion for the most part is about the only French Regular unit that is worth a crap, even IF they know only too well how to "Lose Gloriously...." They are actually pretty good.... I guess the rest of the French Army just knows how to lose "ingloriously....: Actually, there were a few fights in Africa and the Far East after WWII where the 2nd Parachutiste Legere Etrange did rather well, almost as many battle ribbons as the 101st or the 82nd.... I think they have an armored regiment or division which is also good too, I think it fought in the First gulf War next to the Marines....but I could be wrong.... __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living. Last edited by polishshooter; 11-18-2006 at 08:24 PM..

11-19-2006, 11:55 AM	#187
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: WWII Trivia The French Foreign Legion (French: Légion Étrangère), was created in 1831 under the reign of King Louis Phillipe after the July Revolution of 1830. It has survived so long, according to Colonel John Elting, professional soldier and historian, because, "The French, being a thrifty and practical people, have always been eager to let any available foreigners assist them in any necessary bleeding and dying for la Patrie." __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)