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Old 01-08-2013, 10:17 AM   #1
Jokerz
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Default Need help with some info on this gun

Little Back story to maybe narrow down the age range of this weapon.

My great grand father found this weapon in 1911 when he was 27 years old. While working on the railroad it turned cold and the crew noticed an old shack that was clearly abandoned and had been for a very long time but it had a standing chimney so the crew decided to cut down a dead tree and build a fire in the shack to warm up and make lunch.

While inside, my great grand father looked around the place a little and up in the attic of this place he found a side by side double barrel muzzleloader. At the time it was found it already looked to be very old.

I am by no means a wealth of gun knowledge but my father is now approaching 70 and wants to know more about this gun but does not know where to start. I would like to see if I can find some information out for him about it.

We both agree that this gun has nothing more than sentimental value as far as we know, but that means the world to my father so any help I can get would be great.

We took the gun apart so I could look for any type of makers mark on the barrel ( learned that one from Pawn Stars on TV but at least I will admit it ) and I found one. It looks like a crown with two capitol J's underneath it. I will attach all the pictures I have of the mark and the weapon.

Not sure how large the pictures would come out so I will just put a link to them here.

This is the stock http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...pscd4c56a2.jpg

This is the makers mark that I found
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ps47ec0eba.jpg

I hope that is a good place to start and let me know if you need or want more pictures of the weapon. I did not have a picture of the barrel but it looks like s standard size side by side double barrel shotgun with a loading rod that slides in underneath the barrel.

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Old 01-08-2013, 10:50 AM   #2
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Default Re: Need help with some info on this gun

Welcome to TFF.

It's probably one of the thousands of low cost percussion doubles imported from Belgium mid-19th century, and this link shows what appears to be the same mark on barrels attributed to a Belgian maker:

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge...s%20j%20gb.htm

But if so there should also be the Liege ELG in an oval proof and other marks, so clean the rust off and look further,
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:52 AM   #3
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Default Re: Need help with some info on this gun

Also, could be Frederick Williams from Birmingham England.

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Old 01-08-2013, 06:20 PM   #4
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