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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Montgomery, AL
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I know my Mosin can shoot up to 1000 meters and the 91/30 can go, up to, 2000 meters. K98s acn go up to 1000 meters, too. (I love surplus)
If you want to spend (waste) more $, then a good Remington 7xx/7xxx series can do the job, nicely.
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: cape girardeau, mo. USA
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schmidt rubin k31 will shoot well at any range, including 1000 yards, using gp11 ammo.the two i have will shoot moa or better in military config.
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while the K31 is a tackdriver (i own 4) i have yet to see one that would shoot minute of angle past 600 yds with iron sights (assuming a human shooter from a sandbagged benchrest and the above referenced ammo)
then again i use 10-20 round groups as my yardstick, its possible i guess to get lucky and place 3 rounds into a sub 1" circle... JMHO. best regards, mike. |
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If that Schmidt Rubin is shooting an inch, at 600, simply name your price!
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of coarse i ment to say 6" circle...
typo best regards, mike. |
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Jacksonville, AL
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We regularly shot national match M14's in competition at 600 and 1000 yards in the military, with iron sights. Twenty rounds off the 600 yard line was part of the national match course.
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Upstate NY
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Holy crap! 600 yards with iron sights??? How big is the friggin' target?
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Central Texas
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Gunfighter, most of the tactical cops here use the Federal 168gr BTSP, their 'Premium' line; the cops, tho, are seldom shooting as far as 200 yds,in an urban environment.
In a .308, the 190 HPBT, or a 220 HPBT, from Sierra will give excellent results in a 10" or faster twist barrel, my choice for these would likely be 9 1/2", and if I were looking, Bartlein Barrels is a good place to start; I believe their product is as good as all but a very tiny number(less than three), in the business. Graehaven, the "V" ring on the targets at Perry, at a thousand, is 16 inches; the 600 yd target, and the total black on the 1000, I'd have to look up. We still shoot 500 meters, BRCR Silouhette, at a 42 " tall ram, with such cartridges as the 40-70, 40-65, 45-70, 90, 110, and some have shot possibles! Guess you been in the mountains for a while, huh??? I do know that a guy I soldiered with, many years ago, had a 'confirmed' one shot kill at 1380 yds, and this I am sure of, because it was measured with a transit, by me. .50 cal, BMG, in a VERY expensive, bolt gun, but the NVA Colonel's head came plumb off! This guy could have beat Tubbs, 40 years ago, with the gear we had then, and, even with todays gear for Tubbs, likely would wax his backside, were he still alive. The magic is in the wind, and the mirage, and the reading, holding, clicking for it, once you get out past 400. I know some old guys, 70's and 80's, whom I know better than to bet against, because they read conditions like you or I might read a menu, only quicker! I pray someday to be half as good, for this is the soul of long distance accuracy.
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lets clarify things...
we are looking for a rifle that will: put 20 rounds into a 10" or smaller circle (MINUTE OF ANGLE or better) at 1000 yds... dont include the shooter in the equation, lets talk strictly about the shooting platform. the MOSIN NAGANT 91/30 SNIPER RIFLE will not meet the above referenced specification even if bolted down and using custom handloads... the M1-D will not do it either... i dont believe the K31 SCHMIDT-RUBIN would make the cut... all 3 actions might make suitible platforms for custom built rifles that could do it... but in there stock, as issued configuration under the most perfect conditions none of them can rise to the challenge. best regards, mike. |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mitchell, South Dakota
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I have been shooting a sleved XP-100 with a jewel trigger and a 30m inch Schneider 30 cal barrel with a 13 trist. It is chambered in 308 and it is a 1/2 minite rifle. I once shot a 150-13X prone at 800. Thats 13 xs out of 15 shots and the other 2 were 10s. My best 1000m rifle is a 6.5X284. It a blueprinted sleven Rem 700 with a Kenyon trigger and a double froozen 30 inch Krieger 8 tiwst barrel. I am confident it will hit a 4 inch spoter at 1000. Well in a no wind condition on a bench I think its a 5 inch 10 round gun.
Last year the winning long range carterage was a 6mm. Tubbs has his own 6XC casses made and he was shooting a 115 gr Sierra bullet in I believe a 7.5 twist. The rifle I hope to bring to my number 1 XC rifle and long range rifle is a 40X with a 30 inch Obermeyer barrel chambered for a 6X22-250. We will see. So far groups are just ok. |
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Louisville, KY
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I've had a Rem 700 in .308 for some while... it works well for me however I'm in the process of purchasing a SIG Blaser R93 Tactical 2 that I believe will do what you're looking for. I purchased 2 chamberings for it .308 & .338 Lapua. The .338 I plan to use for the longer ranges. I like the SIG because it is so modular. Just MHO.
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Jacksonville, AL
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Graehaven, the 10 ring at 600 yards is 12" and the 10 ring at 1000 yards is
20". Sorry for the long delay in replying. |
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if you want to go nostalgia look into a Shiloh or a Davide Pedersoli Sharps in 40/70, or 45/70... if you like the tactical approach look into a rem. M24 .308 or a Win. M70 stealth2 also in .308, and if you just want a rifle that can punch holes accurately at 1000 yds and still have enough energy to punch through a 1/2" plate of steel then look into one of the many .50 BMG rifles availabe. i myself like the ways of the old, having a 45/70 and a SMLE .303 that i regularly compete with, as well as hunt with...
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Join Date: May 2007
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I shoot 1,000 yard at my club with a remington 700 in 7mm rem magnum. It does quite well.
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I use the AR-30, and the AR-50...and share the ATN scope...
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Would I be pissing in anybody's corn flakes, if I suggested the .50 BMG, was the way to go?
I have shot at the distance, both at paper, and meat, most satisfactoraly, except for the fact that the .308 is 'on the wane', lacking energy, at that range; can I hit it?, heck, yes, but 'dump it', a different queston, entirely. With the .50BMG, the only question is about 'point of impact'; the energy is there! If you are 'humping' it, the .50 is a bit of a load, but the bottom line is purpose, and results, for which it is the ultimate amswer.
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PLUS THEY ARE DAMN FUN TO SHOOT
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It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Peoples Republic of the Pacific Northwest
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I'm a custom rifle fan and currently shoot a Win. 70 in .308 at 1,000.
If you'd like a reasonable priced rifle that will be very effective at 1,000 yards take a look at S... Sav... SSS... Ok. Savage. There I said it. Savage has recently introduces a production single shot rifle in 6.5-284 that comes with a heavy barrel and target stock called the 12 F Class Precision Target Rifle. I believe that Hornady is selling factory ammo in that caliber but plan on reloading your own with the heavy BTHP's. Also; DON'T GO CHEAP ON THE OPTICS! The scope is half of the shooting platform. My next custom 1,000 yard rifle? Win. 70 (pre 64) with a Pac-Nor heavy barrel, .300 Ackley Short Mag. and an old Unertl 12X. Just for fun... |
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I like the .270 myself. Built off the tried and true '06. John O'Connor couldn't say anything bad about it. In fact he was the premier promoter of this round back in the fifties. I never understood why Stoner didn't adapt the .270 instead of the .223 for the new NATO round we are now stuck with. I really believe that extra diameter would have made a world of difference without increasing the weight much more than it is now.
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My range is a 1,000 military style range that also rents out time to special forces, navy and coast guard training, and is a full blown NRA competition facility, with regular 600 and 1,000 yard matches.....but our range does not allow .50's. |
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I still favor the .416 Chey-Tac for extreme long range target interdiction...It's one bad mutha-shut-yo-mouf rifle system....Check'em out on their website and some of the videos on youtube.com(go and search for .416 Chey-Tac)
www.cheytac.com
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: pennsylvania
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i have a custom built for 1,000yrd bench rest in 6.5-284win. it is a wonderful cal. and very accurate my next 1,000yrd gun will be .280AI. i have also been doing alot of shooting at 1,000yrd with my .338Lapua i had built last year, now theres a 1,000yrd caliber if there ever was one.
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Live in SD, work in Iraq
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Here are two examples of 1000 yard rifles.
These do break the bank I'm afraid. International PALMA Rifle Chambered in 308 Winchester. ![]() This is another PALMA rifle with a synthetic stock. The young stud holding it is Kyle Leibertrau, last years Junior National Champion and the 2007 World Champion in both the Jr individual and team events. He is the captain for the US Jr. PALMA Team. While all this may sound interesting, the impressive part is this is all done without bi pods, sand bags, or machine rests. It's two hands and one shoulder. With Iron sights only. ![]()
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: ohio
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LongRifles that is amazing! How much does one of those run?
How is everyones feelings on a 7mm magnum? |
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Join Date: May 2003
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That stock configuration looks very similar to my sister's Anschutz/Savage smallbore target rifle.
That little rifle, setup for my sister, would shoot little holes in paper at 100ft all day long. |
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