.22 CB

[topper]

mebbe a dumb question, but here goes: what exactly is a .22 short CB bullet? does it make less noise than a regular 29 grain .22 short? also is the .22 CB commonly available? i just want to try some for target shooting, not serious hunting.

[LIKTOSHOOT]

Unsure what a .22 Short CB is, I remember a CB cap (or thats what we calle d them) a crimped short-very small, with a lead BB in the crimp. Might kill a fly if it sat still...............might and you`d have to be a couple of inches away too. LOL


LTS

[johnston3407]

.22 CB Conical ball. No powder just primer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_CB
CCI ammo says .22 cb short and .22 cb LR have ths same ballistics, about 730 fps at muzzle.

[Nighthawk]

animal control officer told me they were low vol. and range they used to shot varmints in populated areas. he shot opossum out of tree in back yard thought he fired an air rifle

[Deputy Dawg]

CB Longs are allso very quite in a rifle and are avalible at many of our local gun shops.They sound like you are shooting an air rifle.

[rangerruck]

also the cb rounds are solid material, no jacket. Although sometimes you will see them with a hollow point

[stash247]

CCI CB Longs have less report than the Haenel Air Rifle I keep in the kitchen, for varmint work, in the back yard!
They are not a new 'energy source', but will well anchor an 80# dog, at ten meters, bent on mischief, until the garbage truck arrives! (Don't ask)
The original concept was a primer powered round; CCI adds a bit of powder, but, in a Win 52, not enough to wake the lightest of sleepers!
For varmint chores, to 20 meters, a wish, come true!
Different barrels have different tastes, of course; I'm lucky enough to have an old Stevens Rifle, and two bolt guns, that shoot the stuff really well, to 25 Yds ; some sight correction involved,all, in elevation, but a good shooter, in these three, 1/4" groups,@25 yds-no extrapolation is inferred, or implied!

[southernshooter]

Cb's are quite as he!! but their are some shells called Colibri's that sound like a dry fire these shell usually won't work in a semi automatic
They were designed for revolver's single shot's and bolt action's.
Cb's come in long and shorts and are made by CCI so they are available.
And the Colibri's are made by Aquilla and are a little bit more scarce.

[nevadany]

i was shooting those aguilla Colibri's last friday at my buddies house. I love those things. they are pretty much usless, but fun to play with. I did read somewhere that they shouldn't be used in a new rifle barrel because of the tighter tolerances...the bullet might get stuck in the bore.

Don't know if there is any truth to that, but i choose to use my old Mossberg 46B when firing them.

[johnston3407]

I'd like to try the colibri's, but as for the cb shorts I don't notice much diff than reg. shorts unless I'm useing bolt or slide action riffle. Maybe it's just these old ears.

[Shamrock]

I've used CCI CB longs with some success. I'm not fond of the wax that CCI uses to coat the bullet. It's a pain on hot summer days. In hot weather I prefer to shoot the CCI target shorts. They are not much louder than the CB longs and a whole lot cleaner.

[45Smashemflat]

Any issues with chamber cleanliness after shooting these? I'm picturing a good deal of fouling at the chamber mouth due to the shorter case. Haven't done it, so I don't know.

[Shamrock]

Chamber cleaning is no problem. A few passes with a copper wire brush and the chamber is spotless. Most times a Hoppe #9'd patch alone will do the job.

[191145A1]

Originally Posted by stash247

CCI CB Longs have less report than the Haenel Air Rifle I keep in the kitchen, for varmint work, in the back yard!
They are not a new 'energy source', but will well anchor an 80# dog, at ten meters, bent on mischief, until the garbage truck arrives! (Don't ask)
The original concept was a primer powered round; CCI adds a bit of powder, but, in a Win 52, not enough to wake the lightest of sleepers!
For varmint chores, to 20 meters, a wish, come true!
Different barrels have different tastes, of course; I'm lucky enough to have an old Stevens Rifle, and two bolt guns, that shoot the stuff really well, to 25 Yds ; some sight correction involved,all, in elevation, but a good shooter, in these three, 1/4" groups,@25 yds-no extrapolation is inferred, or implied!

'garbage truck' - you're killing me! I do the same thing. Those guys would flip if they know how many animals they've hauled outta here. I use Aguila Super Colibri (20 gr at 500fps) in a Stevens 887 rifle with no problems. Shooting from inside the garage through the slightly-opened side door, nobody sees or hears anything. Squirrels, rabbits, crows and one day a 15 lb possum that keeled over after one shot. I have the Stevens zeroed at about 25' with the iron sights. I recently took it to the range, put the scope on and after some adjustments was punching out centers at 25 yards. The problem is you can't see the sights with the scope on. I could use my 1925 Colt .22 auto pistol for pest reduction around here, but in the pistol the Super Colibri does emit a small 'crack', although less noise than a cap gun.
I like the Aguila SC so much I bought a brick of it along with several other kinds of .22, like their 'subsonic' 60 gr. This might be 'subsonic' but it's still loud. My favorite .22 right now for regular shooting is Remington 'Yellowjacket'.

[Bill DeShivs]

The CCI .22 short CB and .22 long CB are the same load. The long version was developed to function (manually) from magazines, and to stop chamber fouling issues.
Both are very QUIET from rifles, but not handguns.

[wjh2657]

topper, all good input.
However, you might want to be careful in considering the CCI CBs "just like airguns"as referred by several responders. They are more like the top end airguns which are as lethal as .22 shorts.
I was looking for a "yard Gun" for pests a while back and did some pretty extensive field research on the .22 CB. It is pretty accurate out to 25 yards (good Yard Gun range!) and somewhat accurate out to 40 yards (extreme limit of Yard Gun!), the problem is that it is still packing a nasty wallop all the way out to 80-100 yards (next door neighbors yard and house!) Drop is about 24" at 80 yards and 36" at 100 yards, so it would seem to be safe if you are firing at a critter on the ground (not birds!) But again a problem, little slug is real prone to ricochet and remember it is still carrying a lethal dose out to 100 yards. I use them a lot with a Bullet trap/target holder and shoot in my neighbors hay field ( lots of room), but I stopped using them in the back yard.

BTW, yard gun, after many tests, ended up being an H&R .410 bore shotgun with #9 shot. Yes, I know that it can reach 100 yards too, but the #9 are no longer packing a damaging momentum at that range.

I love the CBs (don't bother neighbors)and I still shoot them , but I treat them just like a .22 short when it comes to safety parameters.

[stash247]

WJH, you are absolutely right; consider the backstop!
When mine was still a 'house in the country', we had issues with dogs, runnung in large packs, stirring up the properly restrained dogs, in the area; 00:30, to 01:00, all hell would break loose, with mine, traceable to a pack of 'strays', running in the creek bed, behind the house.
Calls to the city, county, and state (Game Warden) were non-productive;I took the chore to hand; put a piece of half inch plywood on top of the kids' 'swing set', with a Big Khales scope, atop a Win M-52, and started 'taking scalps'!
Monday night was a good one, as the 'dumpster guy' collected my dumpster, at work, Tues AM!
Three weeks, and there was no problem!
I've since replaced the 52-D, with a 40-X Sporter, and the Kahles , with an AN-PVS 4, and 'hunt the night' some less, as I have been annexed, and now 'live in town', but the problem continues to depart, when neccessary, every tuesday morning!
CB caps, and the CB Long, are bulleted rounds, like any other, and deserve the same safety concerns.

They just take care of business, so quietly, that I'll never be without!