what is this? - The Firearms Forum

kalash · 11-18-2006, 02:39 AM

i recieved this gun from my grand dad years ago. any idea of the history behind these things. ive herd every thing from ww2 german training rifles to late 1800s comercial rifles. i havent found anyone yeat to convence me of there knowlege about these guns. i baught a second one today but still dont have any info. the second one is totally different. besides looking similar none of the parts are interchangeable, on a interesting note all of the markings are the same on both guns and neither have serial numbers. ill post pictures of the second gun when i can get my camera working.

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SouthernMoss · 11-18-2006, 08:14 AM

I'll move this to our Ask the Pros forum. Someone there should be able to help you.

kalash · 11-18-2006, 01:36 PM

heres another rifle i picked up yesterday.

kalash · 11-21-2006, 01:49 AM

so no ones got a clue?

Xracer · 11-21-2006, 09:03 AM

Give us a hint....

Rifled or smoothbore?

Centerfire or rimfire?

Caliber? or Guage?

Give us all of the writing on the gun, EXACTLY as it's written.

BIGBOOMER · 11-22-2006, 01:26 AM

Those look like Ortgies .22 single-shots to me. I have an Ortgies that uses that same action, anyway. The first one appears to be a slightly higher grade than mine, the second one a slightly lower grade than mine. Mine shoots quite well for a simple little rifle. The German made Ortgies is better known for their 25 and 32 ACP auto pistols, now long out of print, but well made and good sellers in their day. I paid $65 for my Ortgies rifle a few years ago, and I think I got it for a very good price.

Best regards, BIGBOOMER

11-18-2006, 02:39 AM	#1
kalash Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34	what is this? i recieved this gun from my grand dad years ago. any idea of the history behind these things. ive herd every thing from ww2 german training rifles to late 1800s comercial rifles. i havent found anyone yeat to convence me of there knowlege about these guns. i baught a second one today but still dont have any info. the second one is totally different. besides looking similar none of the parts are interchangeable, on a interesting note all of the markings are the same on both guns and neither have serial numbers. ill post pictures of the second gun when i can get my camera working. click for bigger pictures. -->

11-18-2006, 08:14 AM	#2
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	Re: what is this? I'll move this to our Ask the Pros forum. Someone there should be able to help you. __________________ My Second protects your First "I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." - Susan B Anthony

11-18-2006, 01:36 PM	#3
kalash Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34	Re: what is this? heres another rifle i picked up yesterday.

11-21-2006, 01:49 AM	#4
kalash Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34	Re: what is this? so no ones got a clue?

11-21-2006, 09:03 AM	#5
Xracer TFF Admin Staff Mediator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Minn-eeee-sota, ya, sure, you bet! Posts: 9,144	Re: what is this? Give us a hint.... Rifled or smoothbore? Centerfire or rimfire? Caliber? or Guage? Give us all of the writing on the gun, EXACTLY as it's written.

11-22-2006, 01:26 AM	#6
BIGBOOMER V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 265	Re: what is this? Those look like Ortgies .22 single-shots to me. I have an Ortgies that uses that same action, anyway. The first one appears to be a slightly higher grade than mine, the second one a slightly lower grade than mine. Mine shoots quite well for a simple little rifle. The German made Ortgies is better known for their 25 and 32 ACP auto pistols, now long out of print, but well made and good sellers in their day. I paid $65 for my Ortgies rifle a few years ago, and I think I got it for a very good price. Best regards, BIGBOOMER __________________ Use Enough Gun. Do all your hunting BEFORE you shoot!