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#51 |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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though i've done no formal testing , and this is just from observations. the surplus 7.62x25 ( polish ) seems hotter than either the S&B and Winchester factory stuff. muzzle flash is more noticable with the surplus stuff and the recoil is more violent. just a point of fact you can use 30 mauser ammo which is loaded lighter in a tokarev if you're concerned about the hotter surplus stuff.
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#52 |
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 264
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hi all....
i got 2 of them... paid between 220-250 in excellent condition. but i did have to replace the (well known problem) firing pin on one. now, the CZ 52 is a REAL GUN. big, heavy, impressive. looks like a tank could roll over it and it will still shoot. ammo equally impressive. i have been using the surplus bulgarian rounds. they come in cute little packs of 16 (2 mag loads), wrapped in wax paper and tied with some string! but the ammo looks and shoots like made yesterday. |
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#53 |
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V.I.P. Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mobile AL.
Posts: 325
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I have a CZ52 and a CZ82. Of the two I prefer the 82. But the 52 is still nice and cost me almost 100 bucks less. If it just wasn't for it's gawd awful trigger pull.
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#54 |
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6
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I bought a CZ52 a couple of years ago, and only paid $100. I had to clean it up and did some small repair and adjustment on it, but it shot fine. So well, that I decided to get another one. It cost a little more, but it was definitely worth it. I shoot old military surplus ammo that I buy from Military Gun Supply here in FT Worth, and in 4 years have only had one FTF and a couple of times that the slide stuck in the back position.
All in all, the CZ52 is an interesting, powerful, and dependable pistol, and the surplus ammo makes it pretty cheap to shoot. (I took my two sons to the range one day to try it out, and they both out-shot me. I think it's better hand-eye coordination from all those years of video games.) |
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#55 |
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mobile AL.
Posts: 325
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Milsurp ammo for a CZ52 is cheap and plentiful, that's for sure.
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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I have had a cz52 for several years, and I use surplus military ammo for it. And so...a caution...I found many rounds that had cracks starting at the neck and extending to the bullet. Once I went through the ammo and got rid of the defective cartridges, my misfires were over. I'm not sure if this cracking issue could lead to other, more catastrophic failures...better not to take the chance. |
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#57 |
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Meadow Vista, CA
Posts: 239
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I love mine. I installed a harrington products competition firing pin and hardened slide rollers, and replaced the spring with a wolf spring. The firing pin swap allows you to dry fire and makes drops the trigger pull to just over 3 pounds. They make a hardened mil spec firing pin also.
http://www.harringtonproducts.com/
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#58 |
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Meadow Vista, CA
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Czechpoint has them for $285 for excellent conditon and $305 for unissued.
http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/vz-52/
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"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, The Federalist Papers #46 at 243-244) "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." (Thomas Jefferson) |
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#59 |
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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I picked up one of each from Czechpoint, they are both pristine and look like the day they were made. Well, one of them still does.. I 'had' to take one to the range and put of few hundred rounds through it.....
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#60 |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Hesperia, CA
Posts: 5,710
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A few things on the CZ-52:
They are well made excellent guns. Some of the surplus ammo is too hot for the pistols as it was made for a machine gun. Reloading to US specs is a better way to go. Some research on the potential ammo choices is NECESSARY. Don't dry fire the gun as the firing pins are fragile. Get ready for a fire exhibition from the barrel even with the US approved ammo including listed handloads. LDBennett |
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#61 |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 653
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I was wondering how accurate the Mosin nagant is? How well does it shoot for you guys? At a 200 yard range, it isn't grouped tight, but I am not using a scope either. It is hitting right at center of mass. I would guess 4'' groups w/out a scope.
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#62 |
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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The Mosin wasn't designed to shoot MOA (Minute of Angle) it was designed to shoot MOM (Minute of Man). What I have personally found is that my M44, M38, and even my Chinese M53 shoot a tighter group than my 91/30's. I don't shoot with the bayonet extended, but have been told the 91/30 will group tighter if done so.
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#63 |
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Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 264
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Not so long ago...maybe 2-3 years, I was buying Bulgarian surplus 7.62x25 ammo for $1.59 for 20. The stuff is from the 50s or 60s, the cold war, wrapped in wax paper with twine. It's almost collectable in itself. Anywho, I still have a couple hundred left but I should have bought a ton more (sounds familiar?) as the price has more than doubled in the meantime.
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#64 |
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 21
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I love mine. I replaced the firing pin with a stainless steel one.
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mobile AL.
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