I bit the AK! (STOLEN??? RETURNED!!!) - The Firearms Forum

Crpdeth · 02-03-2007, 02:54 PM

Well I've owned several battle rifles in my life including many SKS, AR15 ect, but just never was an AK guy untill I saw this Norinko MAK90 on the shelf yesterday...Lots of cussing and discussing with myself about it finally yeilded another piece in my swelling safe. Maybe this will be a truck gun/getcha home gun or something.

Hopefully I'll post up a range report and personal review next week when I have more time.

Whatcha think?

Crpdeth

Pistolenschutze · 02-03-2007, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crpdeth

Whatcha think?

Crpdeth

In a word, "nice!"

Now, if you just file down the sear a little and . . . just kidding!!!!

Marlin · 02-03-2007, 06:56 PM

And one of them says, "Thou shalt not covet....."

SouthernMoss · 02-03-2007, 07:14 PM

Lookin' good!

azsigman · 02-03-2007, 08:56 PM

I got a GREAT deal on a MAK90 a bit ago. Love to shoot it but HATE the thumbhole stock. Great rifle.....

southernshooter · 02-03-2007, 10:07 PM

Good looking gun Crp welcome to the Kalishnikov family. You can still find a 75 round drum from CTD. They sure due take longer to load then to unload

pickenup · 02-03-2007, 11:03 PM

I think.......you have a nice fun gun.

Crpdeth · 02-07-2007, 06:59 PM

My review as promised...

At first I was a little disappointed when I got home with my new purchase to realize that the Wolf ammo I had purchased was lacquer coated...I knew that they had discontinued that lacquer coated junk and replaced it with a smooth performing polymer coated round in .223 a few years back and thought they had done the same for 7.62x39, but I wondered why I was handed ammo that was so old and even wondered for awhile if maybe they were still manufacturing that junk for 7.62x39.

Well, on the way to the range today I stopped back in to pick up another box of bullets or two, still a little discontent with the ammo but for the price I half heartedly asked for more Wolf, I'm glad I did, when I opened them up a big smile came across my ugly mug upon seeing the polymer coated rounds, I asked the store owner about the rounds I previously bought and he was unbelieving as I was...I stated that they were out in the truck and went to get them, he opened them up and promply tossed them under the counter and replaced them with the good stuff...I like people like that, so I bought half a case from him all the while knowing that I'll be able to get it cheaper on the net.

Ammo

Wolf 122 grn polymer coated steel case JHP

Weather Conditions

I couldn't have asked for more wind this afternoon at the range, gusts most likely at 20 to 25 MPH, forcing me to wait considerable lengths of time between shots and even take shots in more wind than I would have liked...Although the distances were mostly very close I would have liked a more accurate idea of where my sights are, but it's back to the grindstone tomorrow so I gladly took what I could get on my day off.

Likes

Aside from the obvious "bullet proof" design there are several things I like about the weapon...I couldn't help but compare it to the SKS since I've had so many of those and they are the same caliber, and operate in alot of the same ways, but the detatchable mag is a glaring advantage. Not that the SKS strippers are difficult, but I can see many advantages to having several loaded mags in my vest when we go down in the bottoms to the snake pit for example.

The thumbhole stock sold me on this thing (Thanks Klinton you helped to sell another one, stupid)...Unlike Azsigman, I love it...Now it does feel a little "squared off" and even a little too far away from the trigger for my small hands, but I plan to refinish the furniture on it anyway, so I'll spend some time rounding that hole off and moving it a little closer to the trigger untill it feels just right.

A few observations

Although it was pretty windy I believe that this rifle is shooting a little to the left and I cannot seem to find a windage adjustment for it...There must be one right? If not, I'm sure replacing the sights all together is an option.

Dislikes

I hate the safety, not only is it out of the way, it scratches the metal when it is used.

1st pic
10 rnds 25 yards Just trying to get a feel for her

2nd pic
5 rnds 50 yards...group sure opens up alot, I'm sure we can apply alot of that to the shooter and the wind, but I'd hate to have to dispatch anything smaller than a large boar past 100 yards at this point.

3rd pic
Tactical target, one of my favorite things to shoot...I pulled this back in to 25 yrds because of the size of the target it's self...It is quite a bit smaller than a real man, so 50 yrds using peeps wasn't feasable.

Overall, I think I'll keep it, I need to practice with it a bit more and definately need to try to pull those groups together, but I think I'll have a lot of fun with it as you say Pick...It was so bright today that I couldnt get a good pic with my cell phone, but I set some clay pidgeons out at 110 yards against a dirt embankment and had a blast plinking away at them and was even busting a few at that distance, so I'm not going to say it's not capable of anything just yet...I just need some more range time with 'er.

southernshooter · 02-07-2007, 07:14 PM

For adjusting windage you will have to tap the front sight post side to side the make a special tool but their ain't no need for it. If you look at the front sight from the side you should see a small circle on each side just under the front sight post that is what you have to tap for the windage adj. That way once set the windage it stays it won't get knocked of zero.

flopshot · 02-07-2007, 08:00 PM

you've come over to the dark side and there is no going back. welcome.
AK's are like potato chips, enjoy.

Crpdeth · 02-07-2007, 08:03 PM

Thanks alot Southern, I couldn't imigine a BR without means to adjust the sights, but nothing surprises me anymore.

Crpdeth

southernshooter · 02-07-2007, 08:14 PM

Here you go Crp this is the tool they make for it
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=131

Crpdeth · 02-07-2007, 08:27 PM

Hmmm, I can see how this tool would make it possible to make very minute adjustments Southern...For the price, I think I'll buy one and look around the site for a couple other necessary things to offset shipping.

See...Women aren't the only ones who think they can save money by buying more!

Crpdeth

southernshooter · 02-07-2007, 08:49 PM

When I bought my AK I got an Accesory kit for it with a whole bunch of stuff for a hell of a price
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=134

Crpdeth · 02-07-2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southernshooter

When I bought my AK I got an Accesory kit for it with a whole bunch of stuff for a hell of a price
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=134

Extra stock and everything, which would enable me to take my time working on the old stock...How could I pass on a deal like that.

Thanks alot Southern.

Crpdeth

southernshooter · 02-07-2007, 09:04 PM

Here you go one more place to spend money
http://search.cheaperthandirt.com/se...image&filter=p

delta13soultaker · 02-13-2007, 02:46 PM

You can do wayyy worse than an AK...but not much better

The safety you mentioned...well that and the distinct click are one of several AK trademarks. I think that "Chinklack!" sound could be patented like a Harley 90-degree V-twin rumble...lol.

I heard several reasons for that safety design. One was it's easy to use in extreme cold (Siberia minus 50) with heavy gloves/mitts etc and easy to locate when the pucker factor is minus one millimeter.

glockamolee · 06-29-2007, 05:17 PM

Good for you! make sure that it is parts compliant if you want to get rid of that abomination of a stock.

Crpdeth · 06-29-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glockamolee

Good for you! make sure that it is parts compliant if you want to get rid of that abomination of a stock.

The stock is what sold this one.

Crpdeth

bunnyhunter12 · 06-29-2007, 07:20 PM

Did you do any work on it yet Crp? Do you have any pics of your handiwork? Feed the beast, we need pics.

sniper69 · 07-23-2007, 09:01 AM

congrats on your purchase. I have a couple of the norinco's and love them.

Here is one I got back in '04 (it since has been put back to a preban configuration with the necessary US compliance parts - sorry no after pics on this one)

Here is another with before and after (this is a NHM90).
before:

After: (with the needed US compliance parts)

these are both 5.56/223 - but the 7.62x39 one I have is nice as well - and a hoot to shoot.

Crpdeth · 07-23-2007, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunnyhunter12

Did you do any work on it yet Crp? Do you have any pics of your handiwork? Feed the beast, we need pics.

Thanks for asking dude, but I've gotten SOOO busy in my business, I barely have enough time to walk out in the shop and grab a beer much less a tool.

Believe me, my "handiwork" leaves a lot to be desired, but I will post up any mods that I do.

Crpdeth

bobmarley2oo3 · 07-26-2007, 04:18 PM

congratulations buddy, i've just purchased my first one maybe about a monaht and a half ago.check out my posting as romarm ak47. there are some good psaotings with links to great scopes and such for the firearm.

191145A1 · 08-14-2007, 03:25 PM

It looks reasonably well-centered to me, and congrats on taking out the perp and missing the vic! However, if you need to adjust the windage the front sight windage tool is the only way to go. Notice the index marks on the sight drum in the front of the sight base. The carbine was sighted in before shipping, but may have been adjusted or tampered-with since then. These are built tough, but it's best not to beat on the barrel with a hammer. You'll also want to get a front sight elevation tool - looks a bit like an old skate key. The lacquer-coated ammo wouldn't have been a problem because of the chrome chamber and barrel, but no doubt the polymer-coated is better. Remember, on any gun, the front sight is moved opposite the direction you want the point of impact to move. I don't use the battlesight position on the rear sight, marked with a letter. For more precise shooting, set the rear sight on '1' (100M). The battlesight setting is designed to provide hits on an enemy out to about 300M, consequently will be rather high at 100M.

CCubed · 10-16-2007, 01:50 PM

congrats on the AK. Love mine.

02-03-2007, 02:54 PM	#1
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	I bit the AK! (STOLEN??? RETURNED!!!) Well I've owned several battle rifles in my life including many SKS, AR15 ect, but just never was an AK guy untill I saw this Norinko MAK90 on the shelf yesterday...Lots of cussing and discussing with myself about it finally yeilded another piece in my swelling safe. Maybe this will be a truck gun/getcha home gun or something. Hopefully I'll post up a range report and personal review next week when I have more time. Whatcha think? Crpdeth Attached Images __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer -->

02-03-2007, 06:56 PM	#3
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02-03-2007, 07:14 PM	#4
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02-03-2007, 08:56 PM	#5
azsigman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Flagstaff, Arizona Posts: 320	Re: I bit the AK! I got a GREAT deal on a MAK90 a bit ago. Love to shoot it but HATE the thumbhole stock. Great rifle.....

02-03-2007, 10:07 PM	#6
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: I bit the AK! Good looking gun Crp welcome to the Kalishnikov family. You can still find a 75 round drum from CTD. They sure due take longer to load then to unload __________________ Only you can see this

02-03-2007, 11:03 PM	#7
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,837	Re: I bit the AK! I think.......you have a nice fun gun. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine

02-07-2007, 06:59 PM	#8
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Re: I bit the AK! My review as promised... At first I was a little disappointed when I got home with my new purchase to realize that the Wolf ammo I had purchased was lacquer coated...I knew that they had discontinued that lacquer coated junk and replaced it with a smooth performing polymer coated round in .223 a few years back and thought they had done the same for 7.62x39, but I wondered why I was handed ammo that was so old and even wondered for awhile if maybe they were still manufacturing that junk for 7.62x39. Well, on the way to the range today I stopped back in to pick up another box of bullets or two, still a little discontent with the ammo but for the price I half heartedly asked for more Wolf, I'm glad I did, when I opened them up a big smile came across my ugly mug upon seeing the polymer coated rounds, I asked the store owner about the rounds I previously bought and he was unbelieving as I was...I stated that they were out in the truck and went to get them, he opened them up and promply tossed them under the counter and replaced them with the good stuff...I like people like that, so I bought half a case from him all the while knowing that I'll be able to get it cheaper on the net. Ammo Wolf 122 grn polymer coated steel case JHP Weather Conditions I couldn't have asked for more wind this afternoon at the range, gusts most likely at 20 to 25 MPH, forcing me to wait considerable lengths of time between shots and even take shots in more wind than I would have liked...Although the distances were mostly very close I would have liked a more accurate idea of where my sights are, but it's back to the grindstone tomorrow so I gladly took what I could get on my day off. Likes Aside from the obvious "bullet proof" design there are several things I like about the weapon...I couldn't help but compare it to the SKS since I've had so many of those and they are the same caliber, and operate in alot of the same ways, but the detatchable mag is a glaring advantage. Not that the SKS strippers are difficult, but I can see many advantages to having several loaded mags in my vest when we go down in the bottoms to the snake pit for example. The thumbhole stock sold me on this thing (Thanks Klinton you helped to sell another one, stupid)...Unlike Azsigman, I love it...Now it does feel a little "squared off" and even a little too far away from the trigger for my small hands, but I plan to refinish the furniture on it anyway, so I'll spend some time rounding that hole off and moving it a little closer to the trigger untill it feels just right. A few observations Although it was pretty windy I believe that this rifle is shooting a little to the left and I cannot seem to find a windage adjustment for it...There must be one right? If not, I'm sure replacing the sights all together is an option. Dislikes I hate the safety, not only is it out of the way, it scratches the metal when it is used. 1st pic 10 rnds 25 yards Just trying to get a feel for her 2nd pic 5 rnds 50 yards...group sure opens up alot, I'm sure we can apply alot of that to the shooter and the wind, but I'd hate to have to dispatch anything smaller than a large boar past 100 yards at this point. 3rd pic Tactical target, one of my favorite things to shoot...I pulled this back in to 25 yrds because of the size of the target it's self...It is quite a bit smaller than a real man, so 50 yrds using peeps wasn't feasable. Overall, I think I'll keep it, I need to practice with it a bit more and definately need to try to pull those groups together, but I think I'll have a lot of fun with it as you say Pick...It was so bright today that I couldnt get a good pic with my cell phone, but I set some clay pidgeons out at 110 yards against a dirt embankment and had a blast plinking away at them and was even busting a few at that distance, so I'm not going to say it's not capable of anything just yet...I just need some more range time with 'er. Attached Images __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer

02-07-2007, 07:14 PM	#9
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: I bit the AK! For adjusting windage you will have to tap the front sight post side to side the make a special tool but their ain't no need for it. If you look at the front sight from the side you should see a small circle on each side just under the front sight post that is what you have to tap for the windage adj. That way once set the windage it stays it won't get knocked of zero. __________________ Only you can see this

02-07-2007, 08:00 PM	#10
flopshot V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 294	Re: I bit the AK! you've come over to the dark side and there is no going back. welcome. AK's are like potato chips, enjoy. __________________ take a kid shooting... they are the next vote

02-07-2007, 08:03 PM	#11
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Re: I bit the AK! Thanks alot Southern, I couldn't imigine a BR without means to adjust the sights, but nothing surprises me anymore. Crpdeth __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer

02-07-2007, 08:14 PM	#12
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: I bit the AK! Here you go Crp this is the tool they make for it http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=131 __________________ Only you can see this

02-07-2007, 08:27 PM	#13
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Re: I bit the AK! Hmmm, I can see how this tool would make it possible to make very minute adjustments Southern...For the price, I think I'll buy one and look around the site for a couple other necessary things to offset shipping. See...Women aren't the only ones who think they can save money by buying more! Crpdeth __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer

02-07-2007, 08:49 PM	#14
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: I bit the AK! When I bought my AK I got an Accesory kit for it with a whole bunch of stuff for a hell of a price http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=134 __________________ Only you can see this

02-07-2007, 09:04 PM	#16
southernshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep South Mississippi Posts: 5,943	Re: I bit the AK! Here you go one more place to spend money http://search.cheaperthandirt.com/se...image&filter=p __________________ Only you can see this

02-13-2007, 02:46 PM	#17
delta13soultaker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Depends on Uncle Sam's whim every 3 yrs. Posts: 2,948	Re: I bit the AK! You can do wayyy worse than an AK...but not much better The safety you mentioned...well that and the distinct click are one of several AK trademarks. I think that "Chinklack!" sound could be patented like a Harley 90-degree V-twin rumble...lol. I heard several reasons for that safety design. One was it's easy to use in extreme cold (Siberia minus 50) with heavy gloves/mitts etc and easy to locate when the pucker factor is minus one millimeter. __________________ Never say die! "A nation who forgets its defenders is soon forgotten itself." "A good shot must necessarily be a good man since the essence of good marksmanship is self-control and self-control is the essential quality of a good man." – Theodore Roosevelt

06-29-2007, 05:17 PM	#18
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06-29-2007, 07:20 PM	#20
bunnyhunter12 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 1,090	Re: I bit the AK! Did you do any work on it yet Crp? Do you have any pics of your handiwork? Feed the beast, we need pics. __________________ Quaerite Prime Regnum Dei~ Official motto of Newfoundland If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government --and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws. -- Edward Abbey in Abbey's Road, p.39 (Plume, 1979) -Smitty

07-23-2007, 09:01 AM	#21
sniper69 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sunny Alabama, GOD Bless America! Posts: 43	Re: I bit the AK! congrats on your purchase. I have a couple of the norinco's and love them. Here is one I got back in '04 (it since has been put back to a preban configuration with the necessary US compliance parts - sorry no after pics on this one) Here is another with before and after (this is a NHM90). before: After: (with the needed US compliance parts) these are both 5.56/223 - but the 7.62x39 one I have is nice as well - and a hoot to shoot. Last edited by sniper69; 07-23-2007 at 09:03 AM..

07-26-2007, 04:18 PM	#23
bobmarley2oo3 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16	Re: I bit the AK! congratulations buddy, i've just purchased my first one maybe about a monaht and a half ago.check out my posting as romarm ak47. there are some good psaotings with links to great scopes and such for the firearm.

08-14-2007, 03:25 PM	#24
191145A1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 20	Re: I bit the AK! It looks reasonably well-centered to me, and congrats on taking out the perp and missing the vic! However, if you need to adjust the windage the front sight windage tool is the only way to go. Notice the index marks on the sight drum in the front of the sight base. The carbine was sighted in before shipping, but may have been adjusted or tampered-with since then. These are built tough, but it's best not to beat on the barrel with a hammer. You'll also want to get a front sight elevation tool - looks a bit like an old skate key. The lacquer-coated ammo wouldn't have been a problem because of the chrome chamber and barrel, but no doubt the polymer-coated is better. Remember, on any gun, the front sight is moved opposite the direction you want the point of impact to move. I don't use the battlesight position on the rear sight, marked with a letter. For more precise shooting, set the rear sight on '1' (100M). The battlesight setting is designed to provide hits on an enemy out to about 300M, consequently will be rather high at 100M.

10-16-2007, 01:50 PM	#25
CCubed V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Near Harrisburg, PA Posts: 62	Re: I bit the AK! congrats on the AK. Love mine. __________________ Lee Enfield No. 4 Mk I* Yugo M48A Hungarian M44 M91/30, 1941, Izhevsk WASR-10 KAR 98k - bcd 41 - byf 43 - 237, 1939 FR-7