Monarch Ammo - Page 2 - The Firearms Forum

The Duke · 12-15-2011, 11:32 PM

ive a bud who shoots the stuff for his retired officer POST cert. every year...shoots just fine in his sig 226 at 25 yds max.. i remember academy selling 9mm cci blazer aluminium cased for 3.89/50 a few years bacl...bought a case wish id bought several more...

monark is the academy proprietary cheap stuff brand..prob nothing more than wolf in a different box...good enough to plink with and not too much else id say...ive shot a little in 92f...smokey and dirty, but ok to shoot...no malfunctions..

The Duke · 12-15-2011, 11:54 PM

graehaven...me too with privi. 223...i recently compared it with s&b and mil fmj...it shoots fine in both the ar and fs2000...ill buy it anyday if on sale...havent knowingly shot any pp handgun ammo...

billroberts1204 · 01-12-2012, 02:08 PM

I bought 40 rnds of 100 gr Monarch .243 and went to the range yesterday. Groups were tight and brass survived first fire fine. On reload, if there are problems I will certainly report back. I shoot only my re-loads on game but my first experience with Monarch was good.

permafrost · 01-12-2012, 05:46 PM

Put me in the no good camp. At least for the 30-30 Monarch ammo. The rim was too thick. Couldn't even get one to chamber correctly in my Win. 94. The rest of it ,I just stay away from.

Bud0505 · 01-17-2012, 01:08 PM

I've fired a 100 rounds or so of .45 ACP in my Kimber. It all cycled and fired just fine. But it does to seem to be dirtier than WWB or Federal.

r/Bud

hhowell1990 · 02-09-2012, 02:19 PM

Cheap ammo that isn't accurate at all, just shot 20 rounds through my 30-06 at the range and it was all over the paper at 50 yards, and i had my rifle in a stand, shot 20 rounds of winchester super-x and got all 20 within a 3" circle, worth the extra $2-3 for american made ammo

bruiser1240 · 10-12-2012, 10:23 AM

I recently purchased box of Monarch .243 ammo @ Academy. My daughter tried sighting her gun in. 3 of the bullets had the primer popped but shells failed to fire. i wont be buying this cheap junk again.

MobileMarine · 10-16-2012, 04:58 PM

I purchased a Ruger 9Rc for my wife a few months ago and when we went to the range to use it, I had a box of Monarch 9mm and after 2 rounds it failed to extract completely and created a jam. After this happened a few more times I changed to Remington ammo and no further problems. My experience and, according to the comments I am reading on here, tells me to stay away from the Monarch ammo. Thank you for the reinforcement.

Alpo · 10-16-2012, 05:39 PM

Did not realize this was a zombie-thread. 3rd post saying brass-cased reloadable 9mm for less than six bucks???? WHERE??? I MUST GO BUY SOME!!!!!

What's that? 2007? Never mind.

soundguy · 10-16-2012, 06:09 PM

1st time I saw it too.

that's cheap brass...

i know walmart sometimes ahs 100rnd packs.. but not sure if it is target only grade.. ie.. lower laods?

Bud0505 · 10-17-2012, 12:41 PM

I've shot several hundred rounds through my Kimber .45ACP. Other than it being a dirty ammo it functioned fine. Haven't tried to reload the cases yet. Having said that I probably won't buy any more but would opt for WWB instead.

soundguy · 10-17-2012, 12:48 PM

the win and umc 100rnd packs at walmart.. anyone use those? are they reduced load?

i didn't state the question clear before?

Alpo · 10-17-2012, 01:10 PM

I've got an MP40. Blowback submachine gun. It gobbles up Winchester White Box 115 9mms like they were M&Ms.

With UMC Yellowbox, howsomever, it has problems.

WWB, you can pull the trigger and hold it and it will burn through 32 rounds.

UYB, might get 4 or 5 in a row, but then it will stop.

They have enough power to move the bolt back against the spring far enough to eject the empty, but not quite enough to push it back just that little bit more to pick up the next round.

So, some of them are full power and some of them aren't. That, to me, says "INCONSISTENT". I don't like inconsistent ammo. So, once I got through that 1000-round case I bought, I never bought any more. And I gave up on shooting it through the sub-gun real early, and used it in pistols. Plenty of power to work a pistol slide. No malfunctions.

But logic says that if one out of five does not have enough umph to push the bolt back, that means one out of five have less power than the other four, which means one out of five will hit in a different spot.

So I used 'em for plinking ammo, and traded 'em off to other people. And won't buy any more.

soundguy · 10-17-2012, 01:28 PM

good to know. so the white box is ok though.

thanks

stev32k · 10-20-2012, 09:33 AM

I shot 250 rounds of the monarch in my M&P 9c and didn't have a problem. There were no jams of any kind. The gun loaded, fired, and cycled just like it should. I have another 200 rounds that I'll shoot next week.

gandog56 · 02-28-2013, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLA

The PPU cases are not any harder to reload than an RP or a Winchester case is. I have about 500 in .223 and prolly about 500 in 9mm and 40 S&W that all reload just fine.

Well Win 7.62X54R ammo is actually made by someone else with WIN putting THEIR headstamp on it. And it has VERY tight primer pockets. I no longer use any kind of hand Primer tool for them. Have to use my Ramprime. Slows down the reloading. Sorta reminds me of S&B cases. Does S&B do the same thing and get their cases from the same manufacturer, or does S&B actually make the Win brass in the first place?

soundguy · 03-01-2013, 05:28 PM

who makes some brass reloadable 762x54r? i newed to shoot some so I can relaod it..

flboots · 03-01-2013, 08:19 PM

I've used monarch ammo. Haven't had problems with it. I do like Winchester's 9mm 124gr nato ammo.

gandog56 · 03-19-2013, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundguy

who makes some brass reloadable 762x54r? i newed to shoot some so I can relaod it..

S&B, Winchester, Lapua, Norma, and Prvi Partizan come to mind. For a while there I was getting boxer primed fully loaded 7.62X54R 150 Grain FMJBT ammo with boxer cases with a headstamp of JMS. $5 for a bag of 20, and I bought a LOT of them bags, just for the cases, though the stuff shot well. No longer seeing it out there any more.

I think I have some Hornady in there, too.

soundguy · 03-19-2013, 04:27 PM

i'll have to dig thru my stuff and see if I have any yet.

i bet i might have a half a box of norma left over from the old pre-reloading days...

12-15-2011, 11:32 PM	#26
The Duke Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NW Louisiana Posts: 813	Re: Monarch Ammo ive a bud who shoots the stuff for his retired officer POST cert. every year...shoots just fine in his sig 226 at 25 yds max.. i remember academy selling 9mm cci blazer aluminium cased for 3.89/50 a few years bacl...bought a case wish id bought several more... monark is the academy proprietary cheap stuff brand..prob nothing more than wolf in a different box...good enough to plink with and not too much else id say...ive shot a little in 92f...smokey and dirty, but ok to shoot...no malfunctions.. __________________ Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

12-15-2011, 11:54 PM	#27
The Duke Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NW Louisiana Posts: 813	Re: Monarch Ammo graehaven...me too with privi. 223...i recently compared it with s&b and mil fmj...it shoots fine in both the ar and fs2000...ill buy it anyday if on sale...havent knowingly shot any pp handgun ammo... __________________ Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy) - a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

01-12-2012, 02:08 PM	#28
billroberts1204 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1	Re: Monarch Ammo I bought 40 rnds of 100 gr Monarch .243 and went to the range yesterday. Groups were tight and brass survived first fire fine. On reload, if there are problems I will certainly report back. I shoot only my re-loads on game but my first experience with Monarch was good.

01-12-2012, 05:46 PM	#29
permafrost Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oklahoma, USA Contributor Posts: 1,771	Re: Monarch Ammo Put me in the no good camp. At least for the 30-30 Monarch ammo. The rim was too thick. Couldn't even get one to chamber correctly in my Win. 94. The rest of it ,I just stay away from. __________________ Stand and Fight

01-17-2012, 01:08 PM	#30
Bud0505 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 60	Re: Monarch Ammo I've fired a 100 rounds or so of .45 ACP in my Kimber. It all cycled and fired just fine. But it does to seem to be dirtier than WWB or Federal. r/Bud

02-09-2012, 02:19 PM	#31
hhowell1990 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1	Re: Monarch Ammo Cheap ammo that isn't accurate at all, just shot 20 rounds through my 30-06 at the range and it was all over the paper at 50 yards, and i had my rifle in a stand, shot 20 rounds of winchester super-x and got all 20 within a 3" circle, worth the extra $2-3 for american made ammo

10-12-2012, 10:23 AM	#32
bruiser1240 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1	Re: Monarch Ammo I recently purchased box of Monarch .243 ammo @ Academy. My daughter tried sighting her gun in. 3 of the bullets had the primer popped but shells failed to fire. i wont be buying this cheap junk again.

10-16-2012, 04:58 PM	#33
MobileMarine Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1	Re: Monarch Ammo I purchased a Ruger 9Rc for my wife a few months ago and when we went to the range to use it, I had a box of Monarch 9mm and after 2 rounds it failed to extract completely and created a jam. After this happened a few more times I changed to Remington ammo and no further problems. My experience and, according to the comments I am reading on here, tells me to stay away from the Monarch ammo. Thank you for the reinforcement.

10-16-2012, 05:39 PM	#34
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,662	Re: Monarch Ammo Did not realize this was a zombie-thread. 3rd post saying brass-cased reloadable 9mm for less than six bucks???? WHERE??? I MUST GO BUY SOME!!!!! What's that? 2007? Never mind. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

10-16-2012, 06:09 PM	#35
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,441	Re: Monarch Ammo 1st time I saw it too. that's cheap brass... i know walmart sometimes ahs 100rnd packs.. but not sure if it is target only grade.. ie.. lower laods?

10-17-2012, 12:41 PM	#36
Bud0505 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 60	Re: Monarch Ammo I've shot several hundred rounds through my Kimber .45ACP. Other than it being a dirty ammo it functioned fine. Haven't tried to reload the cases yet. Having said that I probably won't buy any more but would opt for WWB instead. __________________ R/Bud

10-17-2012, 12:48 PM	#37
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,441	Re: Monarch Ammo the win and umc 100rnd packs at walmart.. anyone use those? are they reduced load? i didn't state the question clear before?

10-17-2012, 01:10 PM	#38
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,662	Re: Monarch Ammo I've got an MP40. Blowback submachine gun. It gobbles up Winchester White Box 115 9mms like they were M&Ms. With UMC Yellowbox, howsomever, it has problems. WWB, you can pull the trigger and hold it and it will burn through 32 rounds. UYB, might get 4 or 5 in a row, but then it will stop. They have enough power to move the bolt back against the spring far enough to eject the empty, but not quite enough to push it back just that little bit more to pick up the next round. So, some of them are full power and some of them aren't. That, to me, says "INCONSISTENT". I don't like inconsistent ammo. So, once I got through that 1000-round case I bought, I never bought any more. And I gave up on shooting it through the sub-gun real early, and used it in pistols. Plenty of power to work a pistol slide. No malfunctions. But logic says that if one out of five does not have enough umph to push the bolt back, that means one out of five have less power than the other four, which means one out of five will hit in a different spot. So I used 'em for plinking ammo, and traded 'em off to other people. And won't buy any more. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

10-17-2012, 01:28 PM	#39
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,441	Re: Monarch Ammo good to know. so the white box is ok though. thanks

10-20-2012, 09:33 AM	#40
stev32k V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 371	Re: Monarch Ammo I shot 250 rounds of the monarch in my M&P 9c and didn't have a problem. There were no jams of any kind. The gun loaded, fired, and cycled just like it should. I have another 200 rounds that I'll shoot next week.

03-01-2013, 05:28 PM	#42
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,441	Re: Monarch Ammo who makes some brass reloadable 762x54r? i newed to shoot some so I can relaod it..

03-01-2013, 08:19 PM	#43
flboots V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Northeast Florida Posts: 353	Re: Monarch Ammo I've used monarch ammo. Haven't had problems with it. I do like Winchester's 9mm 124gr nato ammo.

03-19-2013, 04:27 PM	#45
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,441	Re: Monarch Ammo i'll have to dig thru my stuff and see if I have any yet. i bet i might have a half a box of norma left over from the old pre-reloading days...