Movies past and present - The Firearms Forum

Rommelvon · 04-20-2007, 10:53 PM

Is it just me, or do the movies/tv shows really suck today? I'm sitting here watching shenandoah with jimmy stewart, even without all the fancy stuff they have today....this movie IMO is better than 90% of the crap out there today. Is it the movie stars?..John Wayne, Jimmy stewart etc compared to alec baldwin or george clooney?....what do you folks think?

berto64 · 04-20-2007, 11:04 PM

I believe it's because of the sexual content and profanity on screen and the lack of Honor & respect written into the characters today. Most movies today are written to titilate & shock the audience.

There will never be another "Shane".
JMHO

SouthernMoss · 04-21-2007, 08:28 AM

I agree, Berto. There was plenty of sexual tension in Shane, but it was subtle, not in-your-face. Same with Casablanca. And in the end, the characters did "the right thing."

And I think the foul language is just a crutch to avoid writing good dialogue. Why have an intelligent discourse when the character can just shout F-you!

Pat Hurley · 04-21-2007, 08:59 AM

You're not dreaming Rom. TV and movies really do suck these days.

Have you checked out cartoons lately? My 11 year old watches cartoons that use the words "jerk, dumb, fool, idiot, stupid" and frequently say things like "shut up." Ever wonder how our society is getting courser? Bugs Bunny... where are you?!

Hollywood and the media are simply overflowing with social engineering leftists who are themselves creatures of arrested development, mental defect, various pathologies, and perversions of all sorts. They can't help but produce garbage... they ARE garbage. Human debris as it were.

This is why I steer my young lad - as often as I can - away from the Cartoon Network and towards quality entertainment like the Western Channel (thank God he loves it), the Military Channel, the Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, National Geographic Channel, etc. I knew I was bringing up a high quality human being when JJ came to me one day and told me that he just LOVED the Gene Autry Show, and Bat Masterson was really cool.

Yes friends, there is a God!

DWARREN123 · 04-21-2007, 10:16 AM

Gadgets will never replace ability.

Pistolenschutze · 04-21-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by berto64

There will never be another "Shane".

One of my favorites as well, Berto, along with "High Noon" with Gary Cooper, Sergeant York (also Gary Cooper), and the John Wayne, films "Red River" and "The Searchers," not to mention his wonderful cavalry films.

I must agree with all of you. Movies today are so full of gratuitous sex and violence that it reminds me of the ancient Romans and their fascination with gladiatorial combat. I don't mind violence when it is necessary to the story and is not the primary focus of the movie. In fact, I watched once again the film "Saving Private Ryan" night before last. It is very violent, as any who have seen it would agree, yet the violence was necessay to the telling of the story. War is by definition violent and brutal, and Spielberg used that device effectively to tell a much larger and more important story. Last night I rented "Flags of Our Fathers" for the first time, and while highly violent in places, the violence was indeed necessary to the understanding of how the flag raising incident on Iwo Jima affected the lives of the men involved.

berto64 · 04-21-2007, 05:21 PM

History Channel is running the "Band of Brothers" series today all the way thru.

Good acting, violent in places but altogether a great story of combat & brotherhood and it's historical to boot.

Occasionally something rises to the top, but not often.

charagrin · 04-21-2007, 06:57 PM

My personal favorite is "saving Private Ryan." I first watched it with my Great-Grampa before he died. By the end we were both crying...A truly moving movie. He was at the Battle for Omaha Beach and said it was the most horrible time he'd ever had...

glocknut · 04-21-2007, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DWARREN123

Gadgets will never replace ability.

Thats what i kept telling my exwife...to no avail !!!!!!!!!

mike
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Rommelvon · 04-21-2007, 10:14 PM

lmao@glocknut.........that's hilarious

Pistolenschutze · 04-21-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by glocknut

Thats what i kept telling my exwife...to no avail !!!!!!!!!

How long does it take her to stop laughing after you tell her that, Glock? I was just wondering.

04-20-2007, 10:53 PM	#1
Rommelvon Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Goldsboro, NC Posts: 1,452	Movies past and present Is it just me, or do the movies/tv shows really suck today? I'm sitting here watching shenandoah with jimmy stewart, even without all the fancy stuff they have today....this movie IMO is better than 90% of the crap out there today. Is it the movie stars?..John Wayne, Jimmy stewart etc compared to alec baldwin or george clooney?....what do you folks think? __________________ When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. --Thomas Jefferson American By Birth, Southern By The Grace Of God Deo vindice "Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less.” Robert E Lee -->

04-20-2007, 11:04 PM	#2
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Re: Movies past and present I believe it's because of the sexual content and profanity on screen and the lack of Honor & respect written into the characters today. Most movies today are written to titilate & shock the audience. There will never be another "Shane". JMHO __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

04-21-2007, 08:28 AM	#3
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	Re: Movies past and present I agree, Berto. There was plenty of sexual tension in Shane, but it was subtle, not in-your-face. Same with Casablanca. And in the end, the characters did "the right thing." And I think the foul language is just a crutch to avoid writing good dialogue. Why have an intelligent discourse when the character can just shout F-you! __________________ My Second protects your First "I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." - Susan B Anthony

04-21-2007, 08:59 AM	#4
Pat Hurley Former Guest Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 987	Re: Movies past and present You're not dreaming Rom. TV and movies really do suck these days. Have you checked out cartoons lately? My 11 year old watches cartoons that use the words "jerk, dumb, fool, idiot, stupid" and frequently say things like "shut up." Ever wonder how our society is getting courser? Bugs Bunny... where are you?! Hollywood and the media are simply overflowing with social engineering leftists who are themselves creatures of arrested development, mental defect, various pathologies, and perversions of all sorts. They can't help but produce garbage... they ARE garbage. Human debris as it were. This is why I steer my young lad - as often as I can - away from the Cartoon Network and towards quality entertainment like the Western Channel (thank God he loves it), the Military Channel, the Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, National Geographic Channel, etc. I knew I was bringing up a high quality human being when JJ came to me one day and told me that he just LOVED the Gene Autry Show, and Bat Masterson was really cool. Yes friends, there is a God!

04-21-2007, 10:16 AM	#5
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 764	Re: Movies past and present Gadgets will never replace ability. __________________ Have a nice day!

04-21-2007, 05:21 PM	#7
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Re: Movies past and present History Channel is running the "Band of Brothers" series today all the way thru. Good acting, violent in places but altogether a great story of combat & brotherhood and it's historical to boot. Occasionally something rises to the top, but not often. __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

04-21-2007, 06:57 PM	#8
charagrin Former Guest Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 451	Re: Movies past and present My personal favorite is "saving Private Ryan." I first watched it with my Great-Grampa before he died. By the end we were both crying...A truly moving movie. He was at the Battle for Omaha Beach and said it was the most horrible time he'd ever had...

04-21-2007, 10:14 PM	#10
Rommelvon Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Goldsboro, NC Posts: 1,452	Re: Movies past and present lmao@glocknut.........that's hilarious __________________ When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. --Thomas Jefferson American By Birth, Southern By The Grace Of God Deo vindice "Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less.” Robert E Lee