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ysacres · 03-06-2003, 12:53 PM

griz
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"CLINTON MILITARY RECORD LESS THAN GLORIOUS" Boston Globe - Nov.12, 2002
by writer John Hamilton of Dedham.

Compared to Bill Clinton's 'military record,' George W. Bush looks like Sergeant York! Here are the facts:

Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number # 3 26 46 228.

Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment. Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remains liable for induction.'

Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General(1976), while a fugitive from justice.

Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter.

Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.

All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.

teehee1
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Here is a cherry for that sundae, here is a list of all the coincidental suicides/unexplained deaths all connected to slimy slick willy... This is all public record but so are whitewater and the pardon scandal, so far they both have skated on the entire thing...Unbelievable but true

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key
witness in Ken Starr's investigation. Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary
Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to
the head, ruled a suicide.

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported
to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's
skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the
Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in
July 1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found
dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by
Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside
Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on
Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After
he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he
had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential
people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was
found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases,
as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in
June,1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site
of his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by
jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was
a convicted drug distributor.

Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was
related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the
head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport
and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,
apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet
June 22,1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to
Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution TrustCorp.
Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony
August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron
Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996.
Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the
Department of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John
Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small
plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory
council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton
in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after
his car had hit a utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a
purported suicide and his report was never released.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994
when his plane exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys
had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a
truck, 7/88.

Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump
in April 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death
was due to "natural causes".

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed
in a set-up robbery July 1989

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become
aware of what happens to friends of the Clinton's!

"Life is not:easy, fair or cheap... sometimes bad things happen to good people"

Yabra Kadabra Doo
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Both of your posts are urban legends.

www.snopes.com/inboxer/po...ndraft.asp

www.snopes.com/inboxer/ou...linton.htm

I hate Clinton as much as the next guy, but we should make an effort to post only the truth about him. After all, the truth is bad enough.

In the future, it's very easy to double-check these types of stories. Just go to www.google.com and type in a few words from the post along with "urban legend" and you'll usually find what you need.

www.google.com/search?hl=...Law+90-40.

Edited by: Yabra Kadabra Doo at: 2/2/03 2:08:57 pm

teehee1
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sorry, you need to read some of the books ducumenting some of Klintons hideous behavior, one about Mena and the Barry Seal epoch, and one I do know the title of: Bush, Clinton and the CIA, lt will blow your socks off and it's documented. Someone putting something on an urban legend site proves or disproves nothing to me. The Clinton tapes fully confirm many of the names of the dead involved with willy and the slanted media even confirm most of these questionable suicides, so someone putting them on a web site does not invalidate anything. (I just read the supposed debunking of the 'murder list" and there are statements about Foster and Starr such as " are we to believe" and "do you think" there is more speculation in this article than facts disproving the allegations)
"Life is not:easy, fair or cheap... sometimes bad things happen to good people"

Edited by: teehee1 at: 2/4/03 12:26:33 am

Yabra Kadabra Doo
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there is more speculation in this article than facts disproving the allegations)
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That's the point the urban legends site is trying to make... it's all speculation. The facts don't point either way, and the original post attempts to put everything in a "shady" light so as to assume Clinton was responsible for all the deaths.

Zigzag2
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I swear, I don't know Bill Clinton nor have I ever met him!

and that's the TRUTH!

Mauser45
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I would not be surprised by anything that is said against Clinton! The guy is a disgrace to this country, totally devoid of character, honesty and is definitely a con artist! However, I do believe that Hillary is the dangerous one! If she ever gets to be the president of this country, we will be in real trouble! Hide your guns and keep your powder dry! That is an evil woman!

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ysacres Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wazzu WA Posts: 2,413	Clinton Mlitary Record griz Member Posts: 25 (1/29/03 7:11:42 pm) Reply Clinton Mlitary Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "CLINTON MILITARY RECORD LESS THAN GLORIOUS" Boston Globe - Nov.12, 2002 by writer John Hamilton of Dedham. Compared to Bill Clinton's 'military record,' George W. Bush looks like Sergeant York! Here are the facts: Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number # 3 26 46 228. Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968. Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969. Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment. Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remains liable for induction.' Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE! Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40. Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General(1976), while a fugitive from justice. Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter. Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President. All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton. teehee1 V.I.P. Member Posts: 521 (1/31/03 3:40:10 am) Reply Re: Clinton Mlitary Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a cherry for that sundae, here is a list of all the coincidental suicides/unexplained deaths all connected to slimy slick willy... This is all public record but so are whitewater and the pardon scandal, so far they both have skated on the entire thing...Unbelievable but true James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation. Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House. Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide. Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992. Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor". Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events. Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house. James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas. James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater. Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones. Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June,1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee. Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor. Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds. Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death. Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident. Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation. Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22,1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death. Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution TrustCorp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal. Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce. Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother. Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident. Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole. Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released. Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded. Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE: Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88. Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988 Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989. Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989. James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes". Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990. Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989 THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: Major William S. Barkley Jr. Captain Scott J. Reynolds Sgt. Brian Hanley Sgt. Tim Sabel Major General William Robertson Col. William Densberger Col. Robert Kelly Spec. Gary Rhodes Steve Willis Robert Williams Conway LeBleu Todd McKeehan Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clinton's! "Life is not:easy, fair or cheap... sometimes bad things happen to good people" Yabra Kadabra Doo V.I.P. Member Posts: 157 (2/2/03 2:04:12 pm) Reply Re: Clinton Mlitary Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Both of your posts are urban legends. www.snopes.com/inboxer/po...ndraft.asp www.snopes.com/inboxer/ou...linton.htm I hate Clinton as much as the next guy, but we should make an effort to post only the truth about him. After all, the truth is bad enough. In the future, it's very easy to double-check these types of stories. Just go to www.google.com and type in a few words from the post along with "urban legend" and you'll usually find what you need. www.google.com/search?hl=...Law+90-40. Edited by: Yabra Kadabra Doo at: 2/2/03 2:08:57 pm teehee1 V.I.P. Member Posts: 526 (2/4/03 12:17:28 am) Reply Re: Clinton Mlitary Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sorry, you need to read some of the books ducumenting some of Klintons hideous behavior, one about Mena and the Barry Seal epoch, and one I do know the title of: Bush, Clinton and the CIA, lt will blow your socks off and it's documented. Someone putting something on an urban legend site proves or disproves nothing to me. The Clinton tapes fully confirm many of the names of the dead involved with willy and the slanted media even confirm most of these questionable suicides, so someone putting them on a web site does not invalidate anything. (I just read the supposed debunking of the 'murder list" and there are statements about Foster and Starr such as " are we to believe" and "do you think" there is more speculation in this article than facts disproving the allegations) "Life is not:easy, fair or cheap... sometimes bad things happen to good people" Edited by: teehee1 at: 2/4/03 12:26:33 am Yabra Kadabra Doo V.I.P. Member Posts: 159 (2/4/03 9:27:40 am) Reply Re: Clinton Mlitary Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- there is more speculation in this article than facts disproving the allegations) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's the point the urban legends site is trying to make... it's all speculation. The facts don't point either way, and the original post attempts to put everything in a "shady" light so as to assume Clinton was responsible for all the deaths. Zigzag2 TFF Senior Staff Posts: 5433 (2/4/03 9:59:01 am) Reply Re: Clinton Mlitary Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I swear, I don't know Bill Clinton nor have I ever met him! and that's the TRUTH! Mauser45 Member Posts: 49 (2/12/03 1:39:46 pm) Reply Re: Clinton Mlitary Record -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would not be surprised by anything that is said against Clinton! The guy is a disgrace to this country, totally devoid of character, honesty and is definitely a con artist! However, I do believe that Hillary is the dangerous one! If she ever gets to be the president of this country, we will be in real trouble! Hide your guns and keep your powder dry! That is an evil woman! -->