Did Daley Plaza change your mind?

[17thfabn]

Nightfighter, you have to remember that Polish is the passionate intelectual type! And you may have caught him on an evening when he was at the Polish Vodka!

I can understand the passion on both sides.

On the pro conspiricy side it is hard to believe that a low life looser like Oswald could pull off the "Murder of the Century". (forgeting about the Archduke Ferdinand)

On the anti conspiricy side it is aggravating to have all these crazy ideas to knock down. There are so many it boggles the mind. Most were concoted well after the events.

People want the whole thing tied up in nice box. But in any investigation there are loose ends. Years latter people's memories fade.

History channel, and the Discovery Channel have both had excellent documentries on the murder:

1. I remember one thing they brought up was the claim that Oswald couldn't have walked the distance (it may have been the distance from his boarding house to the bus stop) he was claimed to have. They timed a man wlaking the route, and walking at a fast but reasoanble pace he was able to do it.

2. They also had one of the pictures showing a supposed additional gun man. The picture was very fuzzy. To me it could have been the lock ness monster, or big foot, the picture was so bad. They used the same type of camera, with the same type of film and took a picture of the same location at the same time of day same weather conditions. On their film you could see what might have been the grainy out line of a man holding something. At the time they took the picture there was no one there!

[nightfighter]

I have no particular theory to promote. I just do not like unanswered questions and loose ends.

For instance Oswald had his picture taken with his Carcano and a newspaper. (Although he stated that it was his face superimposed on someone else, his wife stated that she remembered taking the picture.) I drew the logical inference that it might have been an attempt to document something. But if he wanted to be famous or infamous, why did he deny shooting Kennedy? This was his chance for immortality. Why did he not seize it? Leaving his rifle behind would surely have resulted in his eventual capture...did he think he could have gotten away with it?

Oswald also stated that it would be pointless to kill the president because he would be replaced with someone who would likely maintain the same political policies. If not immortality, what did he wish to gain?

With the Secret Service in attendance and overseeing the Walter Reed autopsy, how did the brain disappear?

[17thfabn]

Nightfighter tying up some loose ends.

When trying to understand Oswald you have to understand that he was:

1.Not a particularly bright individual, with illusions of grandeur. He had attempted to kill retired Army General Walker, a right wing leader 7 months earlier. He was frustrated by his low wage job at the book depository. Killing President Kennedy certainly made him famous.

2. Goofy. He went in the U.S. Marines, and yet went around spouting all kinds of marxist theory. He "defected" to Russia, attempted to commit suicide when they wouldn't let him stay. Because of this the Soviets alowed him to stay. Then a few years latter he decided to come back to the U.S. After being back in the U.S. he talked to his wife of returning to the U.S.S.R. Most of the men who served with him described him as "weired", or '"strange".

On Oswald's claim of innocence, he may have not wanted to suffer the consequences of his actions. If found guilty of the murders of President Kennedy and Dallas Police Officer Tippit he would have been exicuted.

The brain? I don't know what happened to it.

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by 17thfabn

Nightfighter tying up some loose ends.

When trying to understand Oswald you have to understand that he was:

1.Not a particularly bright individual, with illusions of grandeur. He had attempted to kill retired Army General Walker, a right wing leader 7 months earlier. He was frustrated by his low wage job at the book depository. Killing President Kennedy certainly made him famous.

2. Goofy. He went in the U.S. Marines, and yet went around spouting all kinds of Marxist theory. He "defected" to Russia, attempted to commit suicide when they wouldn't let him stay. Because of this the Soviets allowed him to stay. Then a few years latter he decided to come back to the U.S. After being back in the U.S. he talked to his wife of returning to the U.S.S.R. Most of the men who served with him described him as "weired", or '"strange".

On Oswald's claim of innocence, he may have not wanted to suffer the consequences of his actions. If found guilty of the murders of President Kennedy and Dallas Police Officer Tippit he would have been exicuted.

The brain? I don't know what happened to it.

1)
It is often stated that he was the one who shot at General Walker, but he had never been charged with that and that did not come to light until after the Kennedy assassination.
When I watched interviews with Oswald he did not strike me as being a dullard. He seemed not only bright but articulate. He managed to teach himself Russian so well that when he met his future Russian wife, he spoke so perfectly that she stated she thought he was a Russian. That in itself is quite a trick in that almost all people with have a heavy accent when they speak a "learned" second language.
"...spouting all kinds of Marxist theory..."
I saw an interview with him in New Orleans after the "fair play for Cuba" incident. He was well read in the area in that he knew the difference between Marxism, Socialism, Communism, etc. He had obviously read the books and could differentiate among the theories. Very few people can actually do that, they just call all those: "communism."

2) However, on this point I agree. His behavior was very strange when he was a marine. In one incident, a small handgun (which he was not allowed to have in the barracks),he had hidden in his locker fell out and discharged. It is documented that other marines picked on him because of his strangeness and interest in reading a Russian newspaper...they called him "comrade Oswald."

He was quite the enigma.

[TeeHee65]

Sorry folks, but I guess I have to agree with just about everyone who has posted on this one - to some degree at least. Below is part of a reply I made to another thread just an hour or so ago.....


Very interesting that I should join this forum and then "trip over" this thread an hour or so later. I was a 16 year old high school Junior in November of 1963. The Kennedy assination & Lee Harvey Oswald were THE big deal for our generation, and I guess I was one of the many who didn't buy the official story. It just seemed too easy to be believable.

In 1967 I bought an Italian 6.5 Mannlicher Carcano rifle at a pawn shop for the outrageous price of $10 - including a box of ammo. At that time I was a "self proclaimed" expert marksman and I proved (to myself) that nobody could have done what Oswald was supposed to have done. IT JUST COULDN'T BE DONE! Now, some 43 years later, I guess I'll admit that maybe I wasn't quite as good as I thought I was. I still can't make myself buy into the official version of the assination 100%.