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Join Date: Aug 2006
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40 reasons to ban guns..... Flawed anti-gun progressive logic
1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, & Chicago cops need guns. 2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control. 3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics." 4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994 are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991. 5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid. 6. The more helpless you are the safer you are from criminals. 7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you. 8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet. 9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense - give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125). 10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery. 11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise. 12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917. 13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia. 14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state. 15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution. 16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them. 17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons'', but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles'', because they are military weapons. 18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms and there were no school shootings. 19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity. 20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy. 21. A handgun, with up to 4 controls, is far too complex for the typical adult to learn to use, as opposed to an automobile that only has 20. 22. Women are just as intelligent and capable as men but a woman with a gun is "an accident waiting to happen" and gun makers' advertisements aimed at women are "preying on their fears." 23. Ordinary people in the presence of guns turn into slaughtering butchers but revert to normal when the weapon is removed. 24. Guns cause violence, which is why there are so many mass killings at gun shows. 25. A majority of the population supports gun control, just like a majority of the population supported owning slaves. 26. Any self-loading small arm can legitimately be considered to be a "weapon of mass destruction" or an "assault weapon." 27. Most people can't be trusted, so we should have laws against guns, which most people will abide by because they can be trusted. 28. The right of Internet pornographers to exist cannot be questioned because it is constitutionally protected by the Bill of Rights, but the use of handguns for self defense is not really protected by the Bill of Rights. 29. Free speech entitles one to own newspapers, transmitters, computers, and typewriters, but self- defense only justifies bare hands. 30. The ACLU is good because it uncompromisingly defends certain parts of the Constitution, and the NRA is bad, because it defends other parts of the Constitution. 31. Charlton Heston, a movie actor as president of the NRA is a cheap lunatic who should be ignored, but Michael Douglas, a movie actor as a representative of Handgun Control, Inc. is an ambassador for peace who is entitled to an audience at the UN arms control summit. 32. Police operate with backup within groups, which is why they need larger capacity pistol magazines than do "civilians" who must face criminals alone and therefore need less ammunition. 33. We should ban "Saturday Night Specials" and other inexpensive guns because it's not fair that poor people have access to guns too. 34. Police officers have some special Jedi-like mastery over handguns that private citizens can never hope to obtain. 35. Private citizens don't need a gun for self- protection because the police are there to protect them even though the Supreme Court says the police are not responsible for their protection. 36. Citizens don't need to carry a gun for personal protection but police chiefs, who are desk-bound administrators who work in a building filled with cops, need a gun. 37. "Assault weapons" have no purpose other than to kill large numbers of people. The police need assault weapons. You do not. 38. When Microsoft pressures its distributors to give Microsoft preferential promotion, that's bad; but when the Federal government pressures cities to buy guns only from Smith & Wesson, that's good. 39. Trigger locks do not interfere with the ability to use a gun for defensive purposes, which is why you see police officers with one on their duty weapon. 40. Handgun Control, Inc., says they want to "keep guns out of the wrong hands." Guess what? You have the wrong hands.
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Former Guest
Join Date: Mar 2007
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I must admit ,I do agree with number 33. Not on any beliefs that poor people cant have guns or that the gun makers should be controlled or any other "holier than thou belief". But on the fact that more often or not, the gun is cheaply made.
Do not hit me with the fact that you had 1 or even ten so called "saturday night specials" and it worked fine. For every 1 good report you find on a cheap gun, theres a 100 or even a thousand bad ones. Jennings, Bryco, and all the others of the "ring of fire" admit that they "cut corners" to make the guns cheaper. Which corners did they cut?-char On a side note I have a few saturday specials, and they are as a matter of fact pieces of crap. |
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Former Guest
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Central California coastal area
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41. Having not read the preceding, I am glad to say I don't care and the reasons don't count.
I only know that guns can't be banned; trying to do so is stupid, because our constipaton says turds are too hard to pass when politicians get involved. |
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever!
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Even 33 is propaganda hogwash !!!!!
The 2nd Amendment doesn't say poor people cannot have guns...... The 2nd applies to EVERY PERSON, regardless of - - Well, you name it. It excludes NO ONE !!!!!!
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Johnstown PA
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Good stuff I couldn't agree more
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Snellville, GA
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wow just wow you hit the nail on the head there!!!
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mt. Airy, MD
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Most people who have used a gun for self defense, never had to fire it.
Apparently, criminals don't care to test how well a "Saturday night special" really works. Good post! |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Snellville, GA
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I have had a Raven .25 for about 12 years it worked fine (wasn't accurate past 15 yards) until the firing pin broke... but its still kind of heavy and it would still hurt if i chucked it at your head as hard as i could LOL it would be something like this!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7x1aic74Mg
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Bullets change governments far surer than votes. The most powerful weapon you can buy isn't a .50 caliber. It's a Senate Seat.... "When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson |
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River
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Before our govt. started trying to regulate arms out of existance, Saturday night specials could be bought almost any where. They were the first line of defence for those who had little income especialy those who lived in high crime areas and had no way of getting out. To deny a man the right to protect himself, family and meager income from those who have no reguard for others is to aid and abet the criminal class. "Hotter than a $2 pistol" is an expression that refers to what might happen if it was used. Yes a man took a chance of the pistol not working or blowing up, but most likely it would go off and injure or kill the bad guy if he was lucky. Most bad guys if they arn't high will hightal it if the can when bullets start flying. Better a "hot" $2 pistol than a cold slab. A small chance is better than no chance. As for criminals carrying pot metal guns, fine. Mabey my old S&W .45 will be more likely to go off with devastating results as opposed to bad guys $2 special .25.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New Mexico
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Man I miss that guy
RIP
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Colorado
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The liberals are trying so hard to do away with our Constitution.
I was a a local gun shop, the other day, and saw a sign posted there. It read something like this: Mass shootings happen in gun-free zones. I now own four! |
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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