TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders - The Firearms Forum

Rommelvon · 05-14-2007, 11:29 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18645623/?GT1=9951

Who thinks they should lose their jobs for this, and who thinks that they provided a valid "learning experience"?

Marlin · 05-14-2007, 11:38 AM

Whoever is responsible should be fired and NEVER allowed in a classroom again.....

Another good reason for Home Schooling.

If I had known then what I know now, I would have home schooled all of mine !!!!

Popgunner · 05-14-2007, 11:48 AM

With my own kids & other peoples (in boyscots & church activities) I've posed questions about emergency situations like earthquakes & what would we do if such & such happened. I'm the emergency preparedness coordinator for my church group. I think this helps the kids in their minds feel more prepared & lees likely to give up in bad situations.

I would never dream of telling them it was real. It would work the opposite way in their minds. It would teach them that the adults they trust won't be any good to them & they'll feel helpless. I think those teachers need about three days & nights in their county jail for child abuse. They can practice telling themselves that the screams thru the night are just a drill.

JohnK3 · 05-14-2007, 11:53 AM

I like the idea of a drill, but dislike the dishonesty of the teachers. Also, there was no opt-out for parents. Also, I dislike the passivity taught the children.

"Stay under your desk and be quiet."

Not "Be very quiet and work your way off campus to a safe area."

Ill-conceived and poorly executed.

obxned · 05-14-2007, 05:39 PM

Fire them all!!

berto64 · 05-14-2007, 06:24 PM

WRONG!

Bruce FLinch · 05-14-2007, 08:42 PM

That is just wrong & saddening.

cec · 05-14-2007, 09:47 PM

Talking about what to do in those situations is one thing. However staging the event in that manner is out of line. Rather than jail, they could just put them in a room with the parents for a few minutes.

Johnk3, I also didn't like the "duck and cover" approach. Exiting when you have the chance is the better option.

Reminds me of a discussion that I had in 3rd grade about what to do if there was a fire in the school and the door was hot. Since opening the door was not an option, we were asked what would we do? Most students went for the stuff something under the door to block smoke or wait for rescue. My response of "Pick up my desk, throw it through the window, leave via the newly created exit" resulted in my getting yelled at for giving the wrong answer. I even went as far as pointing out that we were on the first floor and even if I was on the 2nd, I would risk a broken leg vs burned alive. The upshot is that I didn't have to put my method to the test.

charagrin · 05-15-2007, 01:51 AM

At least somebodys trying to show em what to do. I would tell em to grab there pencils or other makeshift weapons and rush the guy. Better to have one or 2 dead than 32 of em.-Char

rosierita · 05-15-2007, 12:36 PM

on fox & friends this morning they announced this "drill" was really a PRANK!

thank God my kids are NOT in the public school system!

05-14-2007, 11:29 AM	#1
Rommelvon Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Goldsboro, NC Posts: 1,452	TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18645623/?GT1=9951 Who thinks they should lose their jobs for this, and who thinks that they provided a valid "learning experience"? __________________ When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. --Thomas Jefferson American By Birth, Southern By The Grace Of God Deo vindice "Duty is the most sublime word in our language. Do your duty in all things. You cannot do more. You should never wish to do less.” Robert E Lee -->

05-14-2007, 11:38 AM	#2
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Re: TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders Whoever is responsible should be fired and NEVER allowed in a classroom again..... Another good reason for Home Schooling. If I had known then what I know now, I would have home schooled all of mine !!!! __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

05-14-2007, 11:48 AM	#3
Popgunner Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Contributor Posts: 1,764	Re: TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders With my own kids & other peoples (in boyscots & church activities) I've posed questions about emergency situations like earthquakes & what would we do if such & such happened. I'm the emergency preparedness coordinator for my church group. I think this helps the kids in their minds feel more prepared & lees likely to give up in bad situations. I would never dream of telling them it was real. It would work the opposite way in their minds. It would teach them that the adults they trust won't be any good to them & they'll feel helpless. I think those teachers need about three days & nights in their county jail for child abuse. They can practice telling themselves that the screams thru the night are just a drill.

05-14-2007, 11:53 AM	#4
JohnK3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,636	Re: TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders I like the idea of a drill, but dislike the dishonesty of the teachers. Also, there was no opt-out for parents. Also, I dislike the passivity taught the children. "Stay under your desk and be quiet." Not "Be very quiet and work your way off campus to a safe area." Ill-conceived and poorly executed.

05-14-2007, 05:39 PM	#5
obxned Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,342	Re: TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders Fire them all!! __________________ Proud member of a North Carolina Committee of Safety "If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Stand on Earth!" Ronald Reagan

05-14-2007, 06:24 PM	#6
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Re: TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders WRONG! __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

05-14-2007, 08:42 PM	#7
Bruce FLinch Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point Posts: 5,016	Re: TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders That is just wrong & saddening. __________________ A bad day @ the Range, is better than a good day @ work.

05-14-2007, 09:47 PM	#8
cec Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 501	Re: TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders Talking about what to do in those situations is one thing. However staging the event in that manner is out of line. Rather than jail, they could just put them in a room with the parents for a few minutes. Johnk3, I also didn't like the "duck and cover" approach. Exiting when you have the chance is the better option. Reminds me of a discussion that I had in 3rd grade about what to do if there was a fire in the school and the door was hot. Since opening the door was not an option, we were asked what would we do? Most students went for the stuff something under the door to block smoke or wait for rescue. My response of "Pick up my desk, throw it through the window, leave via the newly created exit" resulted in my getting yelled at for giving the wrong answer. I even went as far as pointing out that we were on the first floor and even if I was on the 2nd, I would risk a broken leg vs burned alive. The upshot is that I didn't have to put my method to the test. __________________ Carpe Jugulum When asked why I wanted my CCW, I was tempted to say "Fishing".

05-15-2007, 01:51 AM	#9
charagrin Former Guest Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 451	Re: TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders At least somebodys trying to show em what to do. I would tell em to grab there pencils or other makeshift weapons and rush the guy. Better to have one or 2 dead than 32 of em.-Char

05-15-2007, 12:36 PM	#10
rosierita Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 5,218	Re: TN teachers stage fake gunman attack on 6th graders on fox & friends this morning they announced this "drill" was really a PRANK! thank God my kids are NOT in the public school system! __________________