20 reasons to ban guns..... - The Firearms Forum

Don Buckbee · 09-13-2007, 09:09 AM

http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/...hread-913.html

20 reasons to ban guns..... Flawed anti-gun liberal logic

1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, & Chicago cops need guns.

2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control.

3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics."

4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994, are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991.

5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time, and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid.

6. The more helpless you are, the safer you are from criminals.

7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you.

8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet.

9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense - give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125).

10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery.

11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise.

12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917.

13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia.

14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state.

15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution.

16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them.

17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons'', but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles'', because they are military weapons.

18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms, and there were no school shootings.

19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity.

20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy.

Lilly · 09-13-2007, 09:26 AM

"8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet."

IMO....this is bull. All of it.
Lilly

Pistolenschutze · 09-13-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lilly;271578IMO

....this is bull. All of it.
Lilly

It surely is, Lilly! But who said there must be logic attached to anything the liberals do? Actually, their real agenda and methodology is a hidden one in my opinion. A disarmed citizenry becomes little more than a herd of sheep, easily controlled. To achieve that, nibble away slowly at the right of the American people to be armed, take away those rights one small piece at a time. They've been doing that for over half a century.

islenos · 09-13-2007, 01:03 PM

love it.......

358 winchester · 09-13-2007, 05:24 PM

And 100 years from now it will be written
"We the sheep of the United American Union"

In closing
stock up folks.

glocknut · 09-13-2007, 08:03 PM

I like #18 the best....

mike
gn

Bruce FLinch · 09-14-2007, 07:58 AM

It's scary how many people believe this Liberal dribble!

Lilly · 09-14-2007, 10:09 AM

Amen Bruce!
Lilly

westernamerican · 09-26-2007, 05:58 PM

Just remember.............Guns don't kill People, People kill People!

charagrin · 09-26-2007, 06:00 PM

No offence Mr.Don but this is like the 7th one of these Ive seen posted on this site and they are all the same.

It is a good message though-Char

wmeyerok · 08-24-2009, 09:40 PM

keep up the good fight - thats what our ancestors had to do!!!!!

glocknut · 08-24-2009, 09:58 PM

Thread dredging....

Welcome to the forum wmeyerok....

mike
gn

09-13-2007, 09:26 AM	#2
Lilly V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central Lower , Michigan Posts: 279	Re: 20 reasons to ban guns..... "8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet." IMO....this is bull. All of it. Lilly

09-13-2007, 01:03 PM	#4
islenos Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,244	Re: 20 reasons to ban guns..... love it....... __________________

09-13-2007, 05:24 PM	#5
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: 20 reasons to ban guns..... And 100 years from now it will be written "We the sheep of the United American Union" In closing stock up folks. __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

09-13-2007, 08:03 PM	#6
glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: 20 reasons to ban guns..... I like #18 the best.... mike gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone....

09-14-2007, 07:58 AM	#7
Bruce FLinch Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point Posts: 5,016	Re: 20 reasons to ban guns..... It's scary how many people believe this Liberal dribble! __________________ A bad day @ the Range, is better than a good day @ work.

09-13-2007, 09:09 AM	#1
Don Buckbee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 712	20 reasons to ban guns..... http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2007/...hread-913.html 20 reasons to ban guns..... Flawed anti-gun liberal logic 1. Banning guns works, which is why New York, DC, & Chicago cops need guns. 2. Washington DC's low murder rate of 69 per 100,000 is due to strict gun control, and Indianapolis' high murder rate of 9 per 100,000 is due to the lack of gun control. 3. Statistics showing high murder rates justify gun control but statistics showing increasing murder rates after gun control are "just statistics." 4. The Brady Bill and the Assault Weapons Ban, both of which went into effect in 1994, are responsible for the decrease in violent crime rates, which have been declining since 1991. 5. We must get rid of guns because a deranged lunatic may go on a shooting spree at any time, and anyone who would own a gun out of fear of such a lunatic is paranoid. 6. The more helpless you are, the safer you are from criminals. 7. An intruder will be incapacitated by tear gas or oven spray, but if shot with a .357 Magnum will get angry and kill you. 8. A woman raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman with a smoking gun and a dead rapist at her feet. 9. When confronted by violent criminals, you should "put up no defense - give them what they want, or run" (Handgun Control Inc. Chairman Pete Shields, Guns Don't Die - People Do, 1981, p. 125). 10. The New England Journal of Medicine is filled with expert advice about guns; just like Guns & Ammo has some excellent treatises on heart surgery. 11. One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seatbelts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for hard drive problems, and Sarah Brady for firearms expertise. 12. The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917. 13. The National Guard, federally funded, with bases on federal land, using federally-owned weapons, vehicles, buildings and uniforms, punishing trespassers under federal law, is a "state" militia. 14. These phrases: "right of the people peaceably to assemble," "right of the people to be secure in their homes," "enumerations herein of certain rights shall not be construed to disparage others retained by the people," and "The powers not delegated herein are reserved to the states respectively, and to the people" all refer to individuals, but "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" refers to the state. 15. "The Constitution is strong and will never change." But we should ban and seize all guns thereby violating the 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendments to that Constitution. 16. Rifles and handguns aren't necessary to national defense! Of course, the army has hundreds of thousands of them. 17. Private citizens shouldn't have handguns, because they aren't "military weapons'', but private citizens shouldn't have "assault rifles'', because they are military weapons. 18. In spite of waiting periods, background checks, fingerprinting, government forms, etc., guns today are too readily available, which is responsible for recent school shootings. In the 1940's, 1950's and 1960's, anyone could buy guns at hardware stores, army surplus stores, gas stations, variety stores, Sears mail order, no waiting, no background check, no fingerprints, no government forms, and there were no school shootings. 19. The NRA's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign about kids handling guns is propaganda, but the anti-gun lobby's attempt to run a "don't touch" campaign is responsible social activity. 20. Guns are so complex that special training is necessary to use them properly, and so simple to use that they make murder easy. __________________ Don JPFO NRA Benefactor Member NSSA Life Member -->

09-14-2007, 10:09 AM	#8
Lilly V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central Lower , Michigan Posts: 279	Re: 20 reasons to ban guns..... Amen Bruce! Lilly

09-26-2007, 05:58 PM	#9
westernamerican Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9	Re: 20 reasons to ban guns..... Just remember.............Guns don't kill People, People kill People!

09-26-2007, 06:00 PM	#10
charagrin Former Guest Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 451	Re: 20 reasons to ban guns..... No offence Mr.Don but this is like the 7th one of these Ive seen posted on this site and they are all the same. It is a good message though-Char

08-24-2009, 09:40 PM	#11
wmeyerok Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ames Oklahoma home of the neatest veterans memorial Posts: 3	Re: 20 reasons to ban guns..... keep up the good fight - thats what our ancestors had to do!!!!!

08-24-2009, 09:58 PM	#12
glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: 20 reasons to ban guns..... Thread dredging.... Welcome to the forum wmeyerok.... mike gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone.... Last edited by glocknut; 08-24-2009 at 09:59 PM..