M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? - Page 3 - The Firearms Forum

Pistolenschutze · 02-12-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by polishshooter

Now dontcha go dissin' the .45-70, Pistolashuetzenpheffer! Next thing you know you'll be dissin' the .50BMG...

(I GOTTA get me a "Guide Gun"

)

Far be it from me to dis the 45-70, Polish. It's one of my favorite rifle calibers for hunting tyrannasaurus and pteradactyls

. Makes a hole big enough to drive a German Panther tank through. I daresay, however, that using the black powder version of it chambered in Remington rolling blocks for a main battle rifle would be just a trifle retrograde.

polishshooter · 02-12-2006, 08:05 PM

Ok, I'll give you that...we'd have to use SMOKELESS powder now...

"IF not shot with a point 4-5
The thing most likely's still ALIVE!"

(How's THAT for my po'try?)

Pistolenschutze · 02-13-2006, 08:35 AM

But if he's shot with a good ol' Glock,
You'll more 'n likely, clean his clock.

ShakyJake · 03-05-2006, 07:31 AM

When I was 8 years old in 1948, my Dad, a WWII vet handed me a Winchester bolt action 22LR. Taught me how to fire it and gun safety. My deer rifle in Nevada was a 30/30 lever action. Learned to skillfully hit running jack rabbits and deer and kill them.

I was considered a VERY GOOD MARKSMAN. (practise).

When I entered my first branch of the military (the USAF) I was handed a "range" M1 carbine to qualify. I hated the damn thing, because it made me look bad. It was so worn out that I swear the bullets tunbled down the barrel. GROUPS ? Hell you were lucky to hit the target ! I bitched and asked for another weapon. You can image their response. I've been pissed off to this day.

BUT

I am currently looking to buy a NEW reproduction, an Auto Ordinance or preferably an IMI which supposedly comes with a "match" barrel. (anyone with a source please holler). I like the feel of the little rifle and want to prove to myself that the past is wrong and I can accuratelly shoot it ( although I hate peep sites). In Georgia or Alabama, I believe it would be a perfect weapon for killing deer. next to my 97 shotgun. I also believe I could easily kill deer here with my 22LR Ruger semi-auto pistol, which I believe is the finest little pistol made.

I also own the ONLY large caliber semi-auto pistol, a 1911A1. Glock is the sound crap makes when it hits the ground.

polishshooter · 03-05-2006, 04:11 PM

Shaky, I'm going to LIKE you...and the fact I found ANOTHER like soul who takes deer with a '97...

Although down south, do you use buckshot? I'm just a "slugger" with mine.

wolfgang2000 · 03-05-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ShakyJake

I also own the ONLY large caliber semi-auto pistol, a 1911A1. Glock is the sound crap makes when it hits the ground.

SACRILEGE!!! AND SPOKEN FROM THE HOME TOWN OF GLOCK??!!!!

Well Shaky nice to meet you! Don't worry about the 1911 thing. It's curable !!!!

ShakyJake · 03-05-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by polishshooter

Shaky, I'm going to LIKE you...and the fact I found ANOTHER like soul who takes deer with a '97...

Although down south, do you use buckshot? I'm just a "slugger" with mine.

Buckshot....Point and squeeze.

polishshooter · 03-05-2006, 07:41 PM

I thought the hometown of glock was somewhere in the alps, near where BobinStL used to dream of Julie Andrews dressed in nothing but two Eibar .32ACPs in a low slung rig....

Pistolenschutze · 03-05-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by polishshooter

I thought the hometown of glock was somewhere in the alps, near where BobinStL used to dream of Julie Andrews dressed in nothing but two Eibar .32ACPs in a low slung rig....

I understand they were going to build the main factory at Bergtesgarten in the Obersalzberg, but decided against it, Polish. Someone by the name of Shickelgruber had a prior claim.

wolfgang2000 · 03-05-2006, 09:40 PM

Maybe I should have said the US home of Glock!

polishshooter · 03-05-2006, 11:01 PM

The US home of Glocks is in holsters of cops who never really learned how to shoot a pistol, isn't it?

Pistolenschutze · 03-05-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by polishshooter

The US home of Glocks is in holsters of cops who never really learned how to shoot a pistol, isn't it?

More like in the holsters of discerning minons of the law who appreciate fine, functional weaponry, Polish, and are not still wedded to obsolete, 19th century technology in a 21st century world.

wolfgang2000 · 03-06-2006, 09:05 AM

At least Glock users are not afraid to keep a round in the chamber!

The fact the cops that are not "shooters" can master the Glock proves not just the mechanical superiority of the Glock but the superior handleing characteristics, and it's natural pointing ability.

polishshooter · 03-06-2006, 09:43 PM

OMIGOD, the Glockies are taking over the HISTORY forum!

Did THEY come from Katrina like the Louisiana Monster house eating Bugs too?!?!?

EEEEEEEEeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyuuuuuuuuuckkkk........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get them their own forum quick, so we can QUARANTINE them!!!!!

But until then I think I can hold them off!

Pistolenschutze · 03-06-2006, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by polishshooter

OMIGOD, the Glockies are taking over the HISTORY forum!

We're coming to take you away, ha ha; we're coming to take you away!

Glockies of the world unite! You have nothing to loose but your chains!

wolfgang2000 · 03-06-2006, 11:45 PM

polishshooter · 03-07-2006, 09:44 PM

Shouldn't be too hard, Wolfie and shootzer, the Glockies' CHAINS are probably tupperware too...

wolfgang2000 · 03-07-2006, 10:20 PM

TRUE!!! But you can twist and bend tubberware and it springs back!!!

Pot metal just cracks.

Pistolenschutze · 03-07-2006, 10:36 PM

Face it, Polish: high buckle shoes, Coca Cola with cocaine in it, horse-drawn cabs, the P-40 fighter, and 1911 Colts are now obsolete!

Not to worry though, the Great Glock Collective will eventually encompass you too, Polish.

You too will be assimilated. Resistance is futile!!!

Bernie109 · 05-08-2006, 12:20 AM

I love the feel and the looks of the M-1 Carbine. I only wish it had something more comming out of the muzzle. Of course, Carbine + more potent cartidge = Mini 14 or Mini 30!

Reports from the Sandbox indicate that the M-4 Carbine is suffering the same fate as the M-1. Like the M-1, the M-4 is preferred by the troops because it is lighter and more compact. Even though it uses the same ammo as the M-16, the shorter barrel deprives the 5.56 of the one thing it needs to work...Velocity.

Navy EOD is now issued M-4's. Although we are told never to load them.
"If attacked, find a Marine and hide behind him" we are always told.
On one of the rare occasions we did get to practice patrol and counter ambush, we had marines envying our M-4's. Never though I would see the day, Marines wishing they had Navy weapons!

Red Neck64 · 06-20-2006, 10:10 AM

As a firearm I hold no prejudice for the M-1 Carbine ,but as a weapon I do it is short on stopping power.And stopping is what you want when encountering the enemy combatant .Chambered in 45 caliber I would consider it a fine close encounter weapon,as I consider the grease gun in 45 caliber a true man stopper.

nitrox · 08-01-2006, 08:40 AM

just want to let you know what i heard that at the recent Philippine American military joint exercise held last Febuary known as BALIKATAN 2006 in the Philippines. there was an unconfirmed report that American Troops where using .30cal CARBINE rounds on the firing range using M16 rifles. they have conversion kits with them.

I really dont know if this is true or not, but it's something to think of.

Bernie109 · 08-02-2006, 08:06 PM

I love the look and feel of the carbine. The ammo is expensive and does not do very well. A Carbine chabered for a more powerful round would fit the bill perfectly. Can nybody say Ruger mini-14 or mini-30? Either one of these are little more than an carbine chambered for a more powerful cartidge.
I still like the look and feel of the original 30 though.

nitrox · 08-06-2006, 07:42 AM

Bought a carbine recently from a friend for only $190. It in good condition. i always bring it with me when i stay overnight in my farm. Its a collector item and a gun i dont mind using to protect my family. i believe its better than a handgun and easy to handle.

I always bring in to the range and have fun with it. it kicks like a 22 and hits like a 357 magnum. what more can i ask.

polishshooter · 08-06-2006, 12:43 PM

Better adjust that sear Nitrox, you doubled!

But Welcome!

I was reading in a Combat Arms mag I picked up last week because of an in depth article on the x54R round and it's uses today, and they had a teaser in the "notes" section that CorBon is close to manufacturing a "hot" .30 Carbine round designed to work in the carbines and clones, and give them a "whole lot" more power that will make them "serious" battle weapons...it said something like they have been playing with it for years with "revolutionary" bullets and powder for the case...

Has anybody heard anything else about this?

02-12-2006, 08:05 PM	#52
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? Ok, I'll give you that...we'd have to use SMOKELESS powder now... "IF not shot with a point 4-5 The thing most likely's still ALIVE!" (How's THAT for my po'try?) __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living. Last edited by polishshooter; 02-12-2006 at 08:09 PM..

02-13-2006, 08:35 AM	#53
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? But if he's shot with a good ol' Glock, You'll more 'n likely, clean his clock. __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)

03-05-2006, 07:31 AM	#54
ShakyJake Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Smyrna, Ga. Posts: 28	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? When I was 8 years old in 1948, my Dad, a WWII vet handed me a Winchester bolt action 22LR. Taught me how to fire it and gun safety. My deer rifle in Nevada was a 30/30 lever action. Learned to skillfully hit running jack rabbits and deer and kill them. I was considered a VERY GOOD MARKSMAN. (practise). When I entered my first branch of the military (the USAF) I was handed a "range" M1 carbine to qualify. I hated the damn thing, because it made me look bad. It was so worn out that I swear the bullets tunbled down the barrel. GROUPS ? Hell you were lucky to hit the target ! I bitched and asked for another weapon. You can image their response. I've been pissed off to this day. BUT I am currently looking to buy a NEW reproduction, an Auto Ordinance or preferably an IMI which supposedly comes with a "match" barrel. (anyone with a source please holler). I like the feel of the little rifle and want to prove to myself that the past is wrong and I can accuratelly shoot it ( although I hate peep sites). In Georgia or Alabama, I believe it would be a perfect weapon for killing deer. next to my 97 shotgun. I also believe I could easily kill deer here with my 22LR Ruger semi-auto pistol, which I believe is the finest little pistol made. I also own the ONLY large caliber semi-auto pistol, a 1911A1. Glock is the sound crap makes when it hits the ground.

03-05-2006, 04:11 PM	#55
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? Shaky, I'm going to LIKE you...and the fact I found ANOTHER like soul who takes deer with a '97... Although down south, do you use buckshot? I'm just a "slugger" with mine. __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

03-05-2006, 07:41 PM	#58
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? I thought the hometown of glock was somewhere in the alps, near where BobinStL used to dream of Julie Andrews dressed in nothing but two Eibar .32ACPs in a low slung rig.... __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

03-05-2006, 09:40 PM	#60
wolfgang2000 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mountain Grove MO. Posts: 542	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? Maybe I should have said the US home of Glock! __________________ Guns are like Jello, there is always room for more!

03-05-2006, 11:01 PM	#61
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? The US home of Glocks is in holsters of cops who never really learned how to shoot a pistol, isn't it? __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

03-06-2006, 09:05 AM	#63
wolfgang2000 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mountain Grove MO. Posts: 542	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? At least Glock users are not afraid to keep a round in the chamber! The fact the cops that are not "shooters" can master the Glock proves not just the mechanical superiority of the Glock but the superior handleing characteristics, and it's natural pointing ability. __________________ Guns are like Jello, there is always room for more! Last edited by wolfgang2000; 03-06-2006 at 08:36 PM..

03-06-2006, 09:43 PM	#64
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? OMIGOD, the Glockies are taking over the HISTORY forum! Did THEY come from Katrina like the Louisiana Monster house eating Bugs too?!?!? EEEEEEEEeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyuuuuuuuuuckkkk........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get them their own forum quick, so we can QUARANTINE them!!!!! But until then I think I can hold them off! __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living. Last edited by polishshooter; 03-06-2006 at 09:45 PM..

03-06-2006, 11:45 PM	#66
wolfgang2000 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mountain Grove MO. Posts: 542	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? __________________ Guns are like Jello, there is always room for more!

03-07-2006, 09:44 PM	#67
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? Shouldn't be too hard, Wolfie and shootzer, the Glockies' CHAINS are probably tupperware too... __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

03-07-2006, 10:20 PM	#68
wolfgang2000 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mountain Grove MO. Posts: 542	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? TRUE!!! But you can twist and bend tubberware and it springs back!!! Pot metal just cracks. __________________ Guns are like Jello, there is always room for more!

03-07-2006, 10:36 PM	#69
Pistolenschutze Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 13,094	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? Face it, Polish: high buckle shoes, Coca Cola with cocaine in it, horse-drawn cabs, the P-40 fighter, and 1911 Colts are now obsolete! Not to worry though, the Great Glock Collective will eventually encompass you too, Polish. You too will be assimilated. Resistance is futile!!! __________________ --Pistolenschutze (Pistol Shooter)

05-08-2006, 12:20 AM	#70
Bernie109 Former Guest Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central CA Posts: 274	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? I love the feel and the looks of the M-1 Carbine. I only wish it had something more comming out of the muzzle. Of course, Carbine + more potent cartidge = Mini 14 or Mini 30! Reports from the Sandbox indicate that the M-4 Carbine is suffering the same fate as the M-1. Like the M-1, the M-4 is preferred by the troops because it is lighter and more compact. Even though it uses the same ammo as the M-16, the shorter barrel deprives the 5.56 of the one thing it needs to work...Velocity. Navy EOD is now issued M-4's. Although we are told never to load them. "If attacked, find a Marine and hide behind him" we are always told. On one of the rare occasions we did get to practice patrol and counter ambush, we had marines envying our M-4's. Never though I would see the day, Marines wishing they had Navy weapons!

06-20-2006, 10:10 AM	#71
Red Neck64 Former Guest Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North N.Y.STATE Posts: 330	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? As a firearm I hold no prejudice for the M-1 Carbine ,but as a weapon I do it is short on stopping power.And stopping is what you want when encountering the enemy combatant .Chambered in 45 caliber I would consider it a fine close encounter weapon,as I consider the grease gun in 45 caliber a true man stopper.

08-01-2006, 08:40 AM	#72
nitrox Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: WV,Philippines Posts: 22	Re: .30 Cal. used by US troops on recent exercise just want to let you know what i heard that at the recent Philippine American military joint exercise held last Febuary known as BALIKATAN 2006 in the Philippines. there was an unconfirmed report that American Troops where using .30cal CARBINE rounds on the firing range using M16 rifles. they have conversion kits with them. I really dont know if this is true or not, but it's something to think of. Last edited by nitrox; 08-02-2006 at 09:49 AM..

08-02-2006, 08:06 PM	#73
Bernie109 Former Guest Join Date: May 2006 Location: Central CA Posts: 274	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? I love the look and feel of the carbine. The ammo is expensive and does not do very well. A Carbine chabered for a more powerful round would fit the bill perfectly. Can nybody say Ruger mini-14 or mini-30? Either one of these are little more than an carbine chambered for a more powerful cartidge. I still like the look and feel of the original 30 though.

08-06-2006, 07:42 AM	#74
nitrox Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: WV,Philippines Posts: 22	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? Bought a carbine recently from a friend for only $190. It in good condition. i always bring it with me when i stay overnight in my farm. Its a collector item and a gun i dont mind using to protect my family. i believe its better than a handgun and easy to handle. I always bring in to the range and have fun with it. it kicks like a 22 and hits like a 357 magnum. what more can i ask.

08-06-2006, 12:43 PM	#75
polishshooter Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Indiana Contributor Posts: 7,860	Re: M1 Carbine - Why the dislike? Better adjust that sear Nitrox, you doubled! But Welcome! I was reading in a Combat Arms mag I picked up last week because of an in depth article on the x54R round and it's uses today, and they had a teaser in the "notes" section that CorBon is close to manufacturing a "hot" .30 Carbine round designed to work in the carbines and clones, and give them a "whole lot" more power that will make them "serious" battle weapons...it said something like they have been playing with it for years with "revolutionary" bullets and powder for the case... Has anybody heard anything else about this? __________________ The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.