NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops - The Firearms Forum

Don Buckbee · 12-07-2007, 04:20 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315944,00.html

Group Says NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops Over Holidays
Friday, December 07, 2007

WASHINGTON — NBC has nixed holiday advertisements meant to thank troops for serving overseas in opposition to the inclusion of a non-profit's Web address.
The ads, paid for by the non-profit Freedom's Watch, are a simple thank you, the group says, with people shown paying gratitude to members of the military and the final frame showing the group's Web address, www.freedomswatch.org.

Click here and here to view the ads that NBC won't air.

NBC is refusing to air the ads as long as the address is included, according to an e-mail exchange between NBC and the group, which Freedom's Watch provided to FOX News.

"Per my previous email, the www.freedomswatch.org website will have to be redacted from the commercials for approval. This comes from Alan Wurtzel and Rick Cotton," according to one of the notes.

Wurtzel is president of research at NBC. Rick Cotton is general counsel for NBC Universal.

Speaking with FOX on Friday, Wurtzel said NBC has no problem with the content of the ad, specificallythe well-wishes to troops.

However, he said, the link to the website violates their policy on controversial issue advertising because it encourages political action and other activities. He said the policy is applied consistently across the board and this group was not targeted in any way.

Wurtzel also expressed general concerns that NBC has about people with "deep pockets" being able to buy up a great deal of advertising and affect public perception on any issue, solely because they have the money to do it.

Freedom's Watch President and CEO Bradley Blakeman told FOX on Friday that this is not the first time NBC has turned down his group's ads and believes it has a specific objection to his group's support for the War on Terror.

"NBC asked us to re-vamp our Web site. They wanted to censor us, and we said, 'No we're not going to be censored,'" Blakeman said, noting that the organization's Web site points to more than 20 other non-profit Web sites where readers can thank and support troops.

NBC also objected to using images including military uniforms and vehicles and asked for proof of government approval for the group's use of the images in its ads.

Freedom's Watch says it has never been questioned on that before and paid for the rights to use the images from an independent licensing company.

E-mails provided to FOX show that NBC also might have objected to the ads on its in-house issue advertising policy.

FOX News' Shannon Bream contributed to this report.

358 winchester · 12-07-2007, 04:35 PM

&%#^&(*^^*&^%$$%*** NBC

Marlin · 12-07-2007, 05:09 PM

I'm too angry to comment.....

Marlin T · 12-08-2007, 02:27 PM

Typical main stream media showing their true colors. Nobody should be suprised.

dcd_enterprises · 12-08-2007, 02:37 PM

Oh Well...Who watches NBC Anyway?

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 12-08-2007, 02:47 PM

National Boredom Channel? Nope, I mostly watch CNN when Robin and Company is on.

dcd_enterprises · 12-08-2007, 02:50 PM

CNN?! The Clinton News Network?!

ponycar17 · 12-08-2007, 02:51 PM

But it's OK to allow commentators on the evening news to use their power to influence peoples' opinions on various issues? (and they flagrantly do) Give me a break...

dcd_enterprises · 12-08-2007, 04:01 PM

Sure...check the first amendment...Freedom of the Press, and Freedom of Speech...doesn't mean they have any right to be heard...That's why NBC hired 'em.

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 12-08-2007, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcd_enterprises

CNN?! The Clinton News Network?!

Did you read my post, only when Robin and company are on...and Glen Beck every once and a while. I don't care much about when politics are being talked about.

obxned · 12-08-2007, 05:01 PM

NBC? Does anybody watch that crap anymore? Their news is poorly done propaganda and their entertainment is barely sophisticated enough for a gerbil.

former marine · 12-08-2007, 05:06 PM

F-em i don't watch cbs-nbc-or, abc

satellite66 · 12-08-2007, 05:22 PM

NBC did not find Moveon.org to controversial. Odd isn't it?

NBC double standard

Marlin T · 12-08-2007, 06:21 PM

I guess now that there true ANTI American stance has been blown, like we didn't already see it (CNN too) they are now going to start running the commercial.

satellite66 · 12-09-2007, 03:45 AM

On Saturday NBC changed its mind. Still think they are liberal pukes though. It seems the lawyer who blocked the ad gives big time to dems.

Big dem donor

12-07-2007, 04:20 PM	#1
Don Buckbee Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 712	NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315944,00.html Group Says NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops Over Holidays Friday, December 07, 2007 WASHINGTON — NBC has nixed holiday advertisements meant to thank troops for serving overseas in opposition to the inclusion of a non-profit's Web address. The ads, paid for by the non-profit Freedom's Watch, are a simple thank you, the group says, with people shown paying gratitude to members of the military and the final frame showing the group's Web address, www.freedomswatch.org. Click here and here to view the ads that NBC won't air. NBC is refusing to air the ads as long as the address is included, according to an e-mail exchange between NBC and the group, which Freedom's Watch provided to FOX News. "Per my previous email, the www.freedomswatch.org website will have to be redacted from the commercials for approval. This comes from Alan Wurtzel and Rick Cotton," according to one of the notes. Wurtzel is president of research at NBC. Rick Cotton is general counsel for NBC Universal. Speaking with FOX on Friday, Wurtzel said NBC has no problem with the content of the ad, specificallythe well-wishes to troops. However, he said, the link to the website violates their policy on controversial issue advertising because it encourages political action and other activities. He said the policy is applied consistently across the board and this group was not targeted in any way. Wurtzel also expressed general concerns that NBC has about people with "deep pockets" being able to buy up a great deal of advertising and affect public perception on any issue, solely because they have the money to do it. Freedom's Watch President and CEO Bradley Blakeman told FOX on Friday that this is not the first time NBC has turned down his group's ads and believes it has a specific objection to his group's support for the War on Terror. "NBC asked us to re-vamp our Web site. They wanted to censor us, and we said, 'No we're not going to be censored,'" Blakeman said, noting that the organization's Web site points to more than 20 other non-profit Web sites where readers can thank and support troops. NBC also objected to using images including military uniforms and vehicles and asked for proof of government approval for the group's use of the images in its ads. Freedom's Watch says it has never been questioned on that before and paid for the rights to use the images from an independent licensing company. E-mails provided to FOX show that NBC also might have objected to the ads on its in-house issue advertising policy. FOX News' Shannon Bream contributed to this report. __________________ Don JPFO NRA Benefactor Member NSSA Life Member -->

12-07-2007, 04:35 PM	#2
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops &%#^&(^^&^%$$%*** NBC __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

12-07-2007, 05:09 PM	#3
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops I'm too angry to comment..... __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

12-08-2007, 02:27 PM	#4
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops Typical main stream media showing their true colors. Nobody should be suprised. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

12-08-2007, 02:37 PM	#5
dcd_enterprises Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wheatland, Iowa Posts: 1,313	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops Oh Well...Who watches NBC Anyway? __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, National Guard or Reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand that - Author unknown

12-08-2007, 02:47 PM	#6
Mosin_Nagant_Fan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,832	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops National Boredom Channel? Nope, I mostly watch CNN when Robin and Company is on. __________________ Long Gun Collection: M38 Mosin-Nagant Carbine Russian 1950 SKS Winchester 1300 20Ga Western Field Single-Shot 16Ga Sears Ranger .22S-L-LR Bolt-Action Rifle Marlin 795 Semi-Auto (Brother's) Handgun Collection: Springfield Armory XD9 Service

12-08-2007, 02:50 PM	#7
dcd_enterprises Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wheatland, Iowa Posts: 1,313	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops CNN?! The Clinton News Network?! __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, National Guard or Reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand that - Author unknown

12-08-2007, 02:51 PM	#8
ponycar17 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Carolina Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops But it's OK to allow commentators on the evening news to use their power to influence peoples' opinions on various issues? (and they flagrantly do) Give me a break...

12-08-2007, 04:01 PM	#9
dcd_enterprises Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wheatland, Iowa Posts: 1,313	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops Sure...check the first amendment...Freedom of the Press, and Freedom of Speech...doesn't mean they have any right to be heard...That's why NBC hired 'em. __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, National Guard or Reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand that - Author unknown

12-08-2007, 05:01 PM	#11
obxned Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,342	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops NBC? Does anybody watch that crap anymore? Their news is poorly done propaganda and their entertainment is barely sophisticated enough for a gerbil. __________________ Proud member of a North Carolina Committee of Safety "If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Stand on Earth!" Ronald Reagan

12-08-2007, 05:06 PM	#12
former marine Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: richardson,tx Posts: 15	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops F-em i don't watch cbs-nbc-or, abc

12-08-2007, 05:22 PM	#13
satellite66 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 2,068	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops NBC did not find Moveon.org to controversial. Odd isn't it? NBC double standard __________________ “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not” — Thomas Jefferson. "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

12-08-2007, 06:21 PM	#14
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops I guess now that there true ANTI American stance has been blown, like we didn't already see it (CNN too) they are now going to start running the commercial. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

12-09-2007, 03:45 AM	#15
satellite66 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Central NJ Posts: 2,068	Re: NBC Refuses to Air Ads Thanking Troops On Saturday NBC changed its mind. Still think they are liberal pukes though. It seems the lawyer who blocked the ad gives big time to dems. Big dem donor __________________ “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not” — Thomas Jefferson. "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948