Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther - The Firearms Forum

bluesea112 · 12-10-2007, 06:32 PM

I have a DPMS Panthern chambered in .308 Win. A couple of days ago I was sighting it in and the bolt stuck closed on the 21st shot. I used a rubber mallet and a hard rubber rod to pop the bolt open. After it opened, I cycled the bolt a couple of times by hand and it seemed to work fine. I chambered a round, pulled the trigger, and it worked fine. Pulled the trigger again and it just clicked. The bolt was stuck closed again. Used the same method to open the bolt. I tried to get the live round out of the barrel and it would not move. I tried pulling it out with a pair of pliers, and it would not move at all. After the pliers failed, I carefully inserted a long wooden dowel rod down the barrel from the muzzle end and tapped it with the rubber mallet. The cartridge still did not move at all. Not even a fraction of a millimeter. It is stuck really well.
Just as an fyi, the cartridge is not butted up again the barrel. There is about 1/4 inch of brass between the cartridge rim and the barrel.
What in the world would make a cartridge stick in the barrel like that?

I was shooting factory new .308 Remington ammunition, so it was NOT a malfunction due to a reloading error.
Any suggestions for getting the live round out of the barrel would be appreciated.

Crpdeth · 12-10-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bluesea112

Any suggestions for getting the live round out of the barrel would be appreciated.

Is the extractor/bolt holding the rim of the cartridge?

If not, allow to bolt to slam home while pointing it in a safe direction, then grasp the charging handle with two fingers and lightly tap the butt of the rifle on a sturdy surface (Work bench/Shooting bench) while applying downward pressure on the charging handle. The round should pop right out.

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Originally Posted by bluesea112

What in the world would make a bullet stick in the barrel like that?

Grit will do it for sure...Make sure the throat is good and clean.

Please don't fire that round after tapping the bullet with the dowel...I would dispose of it.

Let us know how everything goes.

Crpdeth

bluesea112 · 12-10-2007, 07:13 PM

Thank you for the suggestion crpdeth, but I tried that when it first happend. It broke the rim of the bullet. Now the bolt will not grip the bullet at all.

bluesea112 · 12-10-2007, 07:14 PM

I also tried spraying penetrating oil down the barrel, hoping it would work it's way down the walls of the bullet. Nope

Crpdeth · 12-10-2007, 07:22 PM

OMG, I didn't realize the rim was broken off.

I really don't like the idea of the wooden dowel thing, but I suspect that is what a smith will do...Have you tried some CLP? How about letting it sit over night?

Like I say, I just don't like suggesting that you have your hands over the barrel with a live round chambered, but I know that is what I would do anyway (gingerly) after allowing it to soak in the CLP over night.... If it didn't pop out pretty easily after an all night soaking, I'd carry it to a smith.

Crp

bluesea112 · 12-10-2007, 07:24 PM

I am not familiar with CLP. Is that a type of oil? Pardon my ignorance.

Follow up: I drew a blank for a minute because i always call it "break free". That is a good idea. I will try it and see what happens. I have never seen a bullet stick like this one. This is a brand new rifle, so I kind of wonder if there is a metal burr that the bullet has hung on. However, I would have thought that it would have happend during the barrel break in. I fired 20 rounds, with a good cleaning between each shot, and I never had a round stick.
I will let you know how the CLP works. I really appreciate your help Crpdeth.

Crpdeth · 12-10-2007, 07:52 PM

I should have called it Break free...That was my fault.

Definitely could be a metal burr or something Blue, do you have any spent casings to look at?

Crpdeth

bluesea112 · 12-10-2007, 08:14 PM

That is a great suggestion. I think I have a few that I was able to keep. That DPMS is EXTREMELY hard on rims, and most of them are bent to a point that they start to rip where the extractor pulls on them.

Crpdeth · 12-10-2007, 08:51 PM

Thats not normal Blue...Something is wrong and I'd stop everything and take the weapon and those damaged cases to a good gunsmith before firing it again...Did you find any burrs on the case necks?

Crpdeth

Texman · 12-10-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crpdeth

Thats not normal Blue...Something is wrong and I'd stop everything and take the weapon and those damaged cases to a good gunsmith before firing it again...Did you find any burrs on the case necks?

Crpdeth

Yep, take it to your trusted gun smith,, I had a pump shot gun do that some years ago and when I laid it on the smiths counter and told him the problem, I thought he was going to pass out... that stuck shell could go off with the bolt closed when you least expect it, you also mentioned that some spent cartrigens were bent or nicked? what up with that.. A gun smith is in order,, and sooner than later.

just my nickels worth.

stash247 · 12-10-2007, 11:01 PM

Sounds a lot like the previous round separated a case, with the brass protrusion, as you describe.
Get the bolt out of the issue, and use a .30 cal jag, on a solid rod, to beat that bugger out, thru the chamber; with no bolt, it won't go 'bang'; then inspect the chamber; and, if you still have the front half of the case, in there, you now have all the room in the world, to remove it, with a proper tool!

bluesea112 · 12-11-2007, 01:38 AM

There is no damage on the spent cases. Not even a scratch. I think Stash may have something. A seperated case would explain the bolt sticking shut on the previous shot. Guess I will try to pop that round out with a solid rod. Instead of tapping the rod with a mallet, I think I will weld a washer to the rod so that the washer is positioned 2" outside of the muzzle. Then I could drill a hole through the center of a 5 ounce ball of lead and send the lead ball sliding down the rod towards the washer....kind of a make shift slide hammer. That way my hand will be out of the way when the lead hits the washer, making the rod push on the nose of the bullet. If for any reason it goes off, I will still have all my fingers to squeeze caulk into the hole in the roof.

LDBennett · 12-11-2007, 06:18 AM

bluesea112:

Beating the cartridge case out of the barrel is indeed a safety problem. I'd disassemble the gun getting the bolt out. Using a long rod (brass would be safer for the bore) that sticks out of the barrel at least 6 inches, I'd beat on the stuck case through the muzzle end (send the cartridge back the way it came in). Well aimed deliberate blows is what it is going to take. The bullet will push into the case, the blows will probably collapse the shoulder of the case but it will eventually exit. I too think there is another seperated case left in the chamber. You'll have to get that out too.

If all the cases show damage to the rim from the extractor (???) then you have a timing problem with this gun. If you have too much gas pressure getting to the bolt to operate it in extraction, the bolt will try to remove the spent cartridge before the pressure has subsided enough and the case is still forced against the chamber wall. Damaged rims are the best case in this scenerio and case separtions are the worst. Sounds like maybe you got the case sereration case and the new round slipped into the remains of the previous case. Assuming you have regualr ammo and not pressure test ammo and if the above is all true, that gun needs to go back to the manufacturer if it is new or to a gunsmith if it is used. The gun is dangerous!

LDBennett

wonderwhippet · 12-16-2007, 11:40 PM

Please stop referring to the cartridge as a "bullet." It kind of confuses the issue. Try putting the rifle in a freezer overnight. It is possible the case may come out easily immediately after removing from freezer.

Crpdeth · 12-17-2007, 04:14 AM

Just curious how this turned out Blue...Everything work out okay?

Crpdeth

LDBennett · 12-17-2007, 08:13 AM

wonderwhippet:

You referring to me? The place where I used "bullet" I meant the bullet!

"The bullet will push into the case,"

What we are assuming here is that there has been a case seperation and a loaded cartridge case (with a bullet) is stuck into the chamber on top of the seperated case. If you beat on the cartridge from the muzzle end of the barrel then the bullet will sink inside the case, probably.

I think that to be proper usage???????

LDBennett

bluesea112 · 12-17-2007, 06:04 PM

I finally had a few minutes to work on it. Unfortunately, I did not have any luck. I used a brasss rod, and the end of the rod flattened out from my blows. I would have thought that it would have broken through the casing before it flattened out. I don't get it.
I am going to try the freezer idea. This has become a mission.

Crpdeth · 12-17-2007, 11:12 PM

Lynn, I think Wonder was referring to Blue's first post.

Well, let us know how it turns out, Blue. I'm curious as heck.

Crpdeth

bluesea112 · 12-18-2007, 04:05 AM

Sorry about the confusion WonderWhippet. It peves me too when people do that, and then I went and did it. (smile). I went back and edited my first post and changed "bullet" to "cartridge".
By the way, I walked over to the freezer a little while ago to get some ice cream and forgot I had put my rifle in there. For the first millisecond after opening the freezer door, I thought "I've never had this dream before". lol

stash247 · 12-18-2007, 07:52 PM

I may have another plan.
Kroil, from Cano Labs, (not sure of the spelling; may be Kano) it the most ferocious penetrant I've ever seen; put three ounces in an apothecary's jar, with the ground glass stopper in place, invert it once, and tomorrow, the outside will be oily, to the touch; next best I have found BG Chemicals'(Automotive) 'Inforce', to work very well, and it's a lot easier to find, and cheaper, than Kroil!
Either works so good, around the shop, that the running instructions are: (1) Apply liberally, (2) Duck! The bolts come loose rapidly, with either!
a teaspoon of either, poured down the bore, and allowed to 'soak' for 24 hours or so, will likely not only 'kill' the primer, and powder, but 'loosen things up', a bunch; If my memory is correct, this rifle is nothing but a 'Man Caliber' (this will catch some heat) AR15 clone.
Meaning, push the pin, lose the lower, and deal with the upper like a stopped up pipe!
Years ago, we used a steel cleaning rod, plus one section, to clear 'chamber jams', from a separated case, on the M-16, then a 'torn case extractor', to fix the problem, at least for a short while; this was on some early rifles, most, before chrome.
An approved and authorised Army procedure, then.
The 'extra section' allows you to 'capture' the bullet. in the thread of the rod, and not damage the bore; it was 'sacrificial', but cheap; we had rods, needed rifles!
Hope this helps!

bluesea112 · 12-22-2007, 01:04 PM

Wow, I need some of that Kroil. That stuff sounds great! I had no idea that there was a penetrating oil that works so well.
Fortunately, the freezer idea worked the second time I tried it. The first time I pulled the rifle out of the freezer, I could not get the cartridge to budge. I was giving it some well aimed, forceful blows, and it did not budge!
Put the rifle back in the freezer for another 10 hours. As soon as I pulled it out of the freezer, I held a hair dryer with maximum heat on the portion of the barrel where the cartridge was stuck. I held the air on the barrel just long enough for the frost to melt. My thought was that the heat would expand the barrel, but the cartridge would still be frozen and not expand. Apparently the rifle steel expanded just enough to take a little pressure off the cartridge, because the cartridge moved with the first blow. A couple more light taps and the cartridge came out.
Just as y'all suspected, a casing from a previous shot had seperated, and there was a tiny piece of brass stuck to the inner barrel wall that was holding the live cartridge in the barrel.
THANK YOU for all of your help and suggestions. I really appreciate y'all taking time to help me out.

Bluesea112

wonderwhippet · 12-22-2007, 05:11 PM

Good work, buddy! I love that freezer trick.

Bruce FLinch · 12-22-2007, 08:47 PM

WOW! Glad that worked out for you. This thread made for some pretty suspenseful reading!

Crpdeth · 12-23-2007, 03:28 PM

Glad to hear everything "came out" for ya.

How does the throat look?

Crpdeth

sksm762 · 12-23-2007, 05:11 PM

I had the same issue with a DPMS that I no longer own. It was one of the very few rifles I have ever sold. It happened twice to me. First time it came right out with a pair of pliers second time I used the the freezer and a butane torch. Cool rifles but mine just happened to have this odd quirk.

12-10-2007, 06:32 PM	#1
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther I have a DPMS Panthern chambered in .308 Win. A couple of days ago I was sighting it in and the bolt stuck closed on the 21st shot. I used a rubber mallet and a hard rubber rod to pop the bolt open. After it opened, I cycled the bolt a couple of times by hand and it seemed to work fine. I chambered a round, pulled the trigger, and it worked fine. Pulled the trigger again and it just clicked. The bolt was stuck closed again. Used the same method to open the bolt. I tried to get the live round out of the barrel and it would not move. I tried pulling it out with a pair of pliers, and it would not move at all. After the pliers failed, I carefully inserted a long wooden dowel rod down the barrel from the muzzle end and tapped it with the rubber mallet. The cartridge still did not move at all. Not even a fraction of a millimeter. It is stuck really well. Just as an fyi, the cartridge is not butted up again the barrel. There is about 1/4 inch of brass between the cartridge rim and the barrel. What in the world would make a cartridge stick in the barrel like that? I was shooting factory new .308 Remington ammunition, so it was NOT a malfunction due to a reloading error. Any suggestions for getting the live round out of the barrel would be appreciated. --> Last edited by bluesea112; 12-18-2007 at 03:52 AM..

12-10-2007, 07:13 PM	#3
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther Thank you for the suggestion crpdeth, but I tried that when it first happend. It broke the rim of the bullet. Now the bolt will not grip the bullet at all.

12-10-2007, 07:14 PM	#4
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther I also tried spraying penetrating oil down the barrel, hoping it would work it's way down the walls of the bullet. Nope

12-10-2007, 07:22 PM	#5
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther OMG, I didn't realize the rim was broken off. I really don't like the idea of the wooden dowel thing, but I suspect that is what a smith will do...Have you tried some CLP? How about letting it sit over night? Like I say, I just don't like suggesting that you have your hands over the barrel with a live round chambered, but I know that is what I would do anyway (gingerly) after allowing it to soak in the CLP over night.... If it didn't pop out pretty easily after an all night soaking, I'd carry it to a smith. Crp __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer

12-10-2007, 07:24 PM	#6
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther I am not familiar with CLP. Is that a type of oil? Pardon my ignorance. Follow up: I drew a blank for a minute because i always call it "break free". That is a good idea. I will try it and see what happens. I have never seen a bullet stick like this one. This is a brand new rifle, so I kind of wonder if there is a metal burr that the bullet has hung on. However, I would have thought that it would have happend during the barrel break in. I fired 20 rounds, with a good cleaning between each shot, and I never had a round stick. I will let you know how the CLP works. I really appreciate your help Crpdeth. Last edited by bluesea112; 12-10-2007 at 07:44 PM..

12-10-2007, 07:52 PM	#7
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther I should have called it Break free...That was my fault. Definitely could be a metal burr or something Blue, do you have any spent casings to look at? Crpdeth __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer

12-10-2007, 08:14 PM	#8
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther That is a great suggestion. I think I have a few that I was able to keep. That DPMS is EXTREMELY hard on rims, and most of them are bent to a point that they start to rip where the extractor pulls on them.

12-10-2007, 08:51 PM	#9
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther Thats not normal Blue...Something is wrong and I'd stop everything and take the weapon and those damaged cases to a good gunsmith before firing it again...Did you find any burrs on the case necks? Crpdeth __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer

12-10-2007, 11:01 PM	#11
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,815	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther Sounds a lot like the previous round separated a case, with the brass protrusion, as you describe. Get the bolt out of the issue, and use a .30 cal jag, on a solid rod, to beat that bugger out, thru the chamber; with no bolt, it won't go 'bang'; then inspect the chamber; and, if you still have the front half of the case, in there, you now have all the room in the world, to remove it, with a proper tool! __________________ Don't start no s**t and there won't be none, Terry

12-11-2007, 01:38 AM	#12
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther There is no damage on the spent cases. Not even a scratch. I think Stash may have something. A seperated case would explain the bolt sticking shut on the previous shot. Guess I will try to pop that round out with a solid rod. Instead of tapping the rod with a mallet, I think I will weld a washer to the rod so that the washer is positioned 2" outside of the muzzle. Then I could drill a hole through the center of a 5 ounce ball of lead and send the lead ball sliding down the rod towards the washer....kind of a make shift slide hammer. That way my hand will be out of the way when the lead hits the washer, making the rod push on the nose of the bullet. If for any reason it goes off, I will still have all my fingers to squeeze caulk into the hole in the roof. Last edited by bluesea112; 12-11-2007 at 01:40 AM..

12-11-2007, 06:18 AM	#13
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,714	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther bluesea112: Beating the cartridge case out of the barrel is indeed a safety problem. I'd disassemble the gun getting the bolt out. Using a long rod (brass would be safer for the bore) that sticks out of the barrel at least 6 inches, I'd beat on the stuck case through the muzzle end (send the cartridge back the way it came in). Well aimed deliberate blows is what it is going to take. The bullet will push into the case, the blows will probably collapse the shoulder of the case but it will eventually exit. I too think there is another seperated case left in the chamber. You'll have to get that out too. If all the cases show damage to the rim from the extractor (???) then you have a timing problem with this gun. If you have too much gas pressure getting to the bolt to operate it in extraction, the bolt will try to remove the spent cartridge before the pressure has subsided enough and the case is still forced against the chamber wall. Damaged rims are the best case in this scenerio and case separtions are the worst. Sounds like maybe you got the case sereration case and the new round slipped into the remains of the previous case. Assuming you have regualr ammo and not pressure test ammo and if the above is all true, that gun needs to go back to the manufacturer if it is new or to a gunsmith if it is used. The gun is dangerous! LDBennett

12-16-2007, 11:40 PM	#14
wonderwhippet Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,585	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther Please stop referring to the cartridge as a "bullet." It kind of confuses the issue. Try putting the rifle in a freezer overnight. It is possible the case may come out easily immediately after removing from freezer.

12-17-2007, 04:14 AM	#15
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther Just curious how this turned out Blue...Everything work out okay? Crpdeth __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer

12-17-2007, 08:13 AM	#16
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,714	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther wonderwhippet: You referring to me? The place where I used "bullet" I meant the bullet! "The bullet will push into the case," What we are assuming here is that there has been a case seperation and a loaded cartridge case (with a bullet) is stuck into the chamber on top of the seperated case. If you beat on the cartridge from the muzzle end of the barrel then the bullet will sink inside the case, probably. I think that to be proper usage??????? LDBennett

12-17-2007, 06:04 PM	#17
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther I finally had a few minutes to work on it. Unfortunately, I did not have any luck. I used a brasss rod, and the end of the rod flattened out from my blows. I would have thought that it would have broken through the casing before it flattened out. I don't get it. I am going to try the freezer idea. This has become a mission. Last edited by bluesea112; 12-17-2007 at 06:06 PM..

12-17-2007, 11:12 PM	#18
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther Lynn, I think Wonder was referring to Blue's first post. Well, let us know how it turns out, Blue. I'm curious as heck. Crpdeth __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer

12-18-2007, 04:05 AM	#19
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther Sorry about the confusion WonderWhippet. It peves me too when people do that, and then I went and did it. (smile). I went back and edited my first post and changed "bullet" to "cartridge". By the way, I walked over to the freezer a little while ago to get some ice cream and forgot I had put my rifle in there. For the first millisecond after opening the freezer door, I thought "I've never had this dream before". lol

12-18-2007, 07:52 PM	#20
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,815	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther I may have another plan. Kroil, from Cano Labs, (not sure of the spelling; may be Kano) it the most ferocious penetrant I've ever seen; put three ounces in an apothecary's jar, with the ground glass stopper in place, invert it once, and tomorrow, the outside will be oily, to the touch; next best I have found BG Chemicals'(Automotive) 'Inforce', to work very well, and it's a lot easier to find, and cheaper, than Kroil! Either works so good, around the shop, that the running instructions are: (1) Apply liberally, (2) Duck! The bolts come loose rapidly, with either! a teaspoon of either, poured down the bore, and allowed to 'soak' for 24 hours or so, will likely not only 'kill' the primer, and powder, but 'loosen things up', a bunch; If my memory is correct, this rifle is nothing but a 'Man Caliber' (this will catch some heat) AR15 clone. Meaning, push the pin, lose the lower, and deal with the upper like a stopped up pipe! Years ago, we used a steel cleaning rod, plus one section, to clear 'chamber jams', from a separated case, on the M-16, then a 'torn case extractor', to fix the problem, at least for a short while; this was on some early rifles, most, before chrome. An approved and authorised Army procedure, then. The 'extra section' allows you to 'capture' the bullet. in the thread of the rod, and not damage the bore; it was 'sacrificial', but cheap; we had rods, needed rifles! Hope this helps! __________________ Don't start no s**t and there won't be none, Terry

12-22-2007, 01:04 PM	#21
bluesea112 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: West, TX Contributor Posts: 1,257	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther Wow, I need some of that Kroil. That stuff sounds great! I had no idea that there was a penetrating oil that works so well. Fortunately, the freezer idea worked the second time I tried it. The first time I pulled the rifle out of the freezer, I could not get the cartridge to budge. I was giving it some well aimed, forceful blows, and it did not budge! Put the rifle back in the freezer for another 10 hours. As soon as I pulled it out of the freezer, I held a hair dryer with maximum heat on the portion of the barrel where the cartridge was stuck. I held the air on the barrel just long enough for the frost to melt. My thought was that the heat would expand the barrel, but the cartridge would still be frozen and not expand. Apparently the rifle steel expanded just enough to take a little pressure off the cartridge, because the cartridge moved with the first blow. A couple more light taps and the cartridge came out. Just as y'all suspected, a casing from a previous shot had seperated, and there was a tiny piece of brass stuck to the inner barrel wall that was holding the live cartridge in the barrel. THANK YOU for all of your help and suggestions. I really appreciate y'all taking time to help me out. Bluesea112

12-22-2007, 05:11 PM	#22
wonderwhippet Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,585	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther Good work, buddy! I love that freezer trick.

12-22-2007, 08:47 PM	#23
Bruce FLinch Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Point, Kali..aka Gun Point Posts: 5,016	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther WOW! Glad that worked out for you. This thread made for some pretty suspenseful reading! __________________ A bad day @ the Range, is better than a good day @ work.

12-23-2007, 03:28 PM	#24
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther Glad to hear everything "came out" for ya. How does the throat look? Crpdeth __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer

12-23-2007, 05:11 PM	#25
sksm762 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1	Re: Live round stuck in my DPMS Panther I had the same issue with a DPMS that I no longer own. It was one of the very few rifles I have ever sold. It happened twice to me. First time it came right out with a pair of pliers second time I used the the freezer and a butane torch. Cool rifles but mine just happened to have this odd quirk.