saw Rudy Giuliani today - The Firearms Forum

Luke · 12-23-2007, 03:17 PM

Rudy Giuliani came to Beantown coffee today in Hampstead, NH. I went to see him and he talked about his 12 goals and we also were able to ask him questions. My number one choice would have to be Duncan Hunter, followed by Thompson and for third a tie between Giuliani/Romny. Realisitically, Hunter and Thompson probably wont win, so I would have to go ahead and Vote for Giuliani. Whats your opinion on him? how do you think he'll do in regards for us gun-totin loonies?

Luke

358 winchester · 12-23-2007, 03:26 PM

He will take them all away if he can don't trust that man

Willie · 12-23-2007, 03:32 PM

I understand New York has very restrictive gun laws and the City has even more gun laws. I am not sure you can even permit or carry in N.Y.C. Does anyone know for sure? I think the NRA rates Guilani very badly too.I don't have a better answer yet but I would question Rudy's 3 or is it 4 divorces as to his judgement and character.

Pistolenschutze · 12-23-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 358 winchester

He will take them all away if he can don't trust that man

No, I don't think we can either, Ron. Rudy Giuliani is, at best, left of center, and he would sign any anti-gun package the Congress sent him.

catfish83861 · 12-23-2007, 04:50 PM

Close to an Edwards with a "R" behind his name in my opinion, for what thats worth.

catfish

Marlin T · 12-23-2007, 05:43 PM

Here Luke, you have to make your mind but look at this before you do.

berto64 · 12-23-2007, 08:11 PM

Couldn't get a clean shot, huh?

We'll see how long it takes before I get a knocked down door, heheheheee)

White Hawk · 12-23-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

Realisitically, Hunter and Thompson probably wont win, so I would have to go ahead and Vote for Giuliani.

Don't vote for Giuliani in the primary, and you won't have to vote for him in the general. As I've stated before, the primaries are for picking the person you want to see in the general. If everybody thinks "Duncan Hunter and/or Fred Thompson won't win the primary, so I might as well vote for Giuliani", then Giuliani will win the primaries and we'll all have to hold our noses and vote for him to avoid an even bigger liberal winning the general.

Make sure all your right-minded friends get the message.

As for what I'd ask Rudy if I met him...

ThunderStick300MAG · 12-23-2007, 10:12 PM

Ron Paul 08!!!! He's very constitutional. The way he votes on items is strictly based on what's already Constitutional Law, so I think that since the 2nd Amendment is already in place we should be much good to go on that issue...

glocknut · 12-23-2007, 11:39 PM

I will never, ever vote for Giuliani.... Period. Not even in the general election....

mike
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noslolo · 12-24-2007, 01:58 AM

Go Ron Paul!!

Marlin T · 12-24-2007, 04:56 AM

Ron Paul, wasn't that the guy that was hanging out with aliens?

troutwest66 · 12-24-2007, 09:36 AM

I'm going with Huckabee at his point. I've seen him on the Outdoor Channel and I visited his and Paul's websites. I get a better feeiling with Huck'.

Luke · 12-24-2007, 10:25 AM

well then looks like im going to have to re-think my selection!! what I am trying to say though is that I think he, or maby Romny, is the only one that could beat Hillary. I would much rather Giuliani than another round of Clinton. I think the candidates like Huckabee, Hunter, Thompson, etc. are too normal for the lefties, so they wouldn't have much of a chance up againtsed Hillary. Edwards, yes, but Hillary or maby Obama, no.
thanks for all your response,
Luke

troutwest66 · 12-24-2007, 02:39 PM

I think anyone less than someone normal is too much of a compromise and there is no compromise on the 2nd. I felt Gore was almost a shoe-in, too, and look what happened. Gun owners had to be a large part of it.

ponycar17 · 12-24-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

I think the candidates like Huckabee, Hunter, Thompson, etc. are too normal for the lefties, so they wouldn't have much of a chance up againtsed Hillary. Edwards, yes, but Hillary or maby Obama, no.
thanks for all your response,
Luke

Things REALLY ARE different in the North East, aren't they?

The popular opinion around the rest of the country, as far as I can tell, is that Mickey Mouse could beat Hillary, but I guess she's done a good job in the NE of convincing the union types that the only choice for a job is with one of the Demoncrats...

I understand and appreciate your regional differences, however they do astound me...

Luke · 12-30-2007, 09:47 PM

haha i guess so pony-cart. Around here in southern NH and nothern mass, it seems that theres about 60 to 65% democrats, mostly supporting Hillary, and the rest Republicans and indi's split mainly between Guliani and McCain. I wish it was more like the rest of the country around here!!

NH use to be pretty conservative but over the last 10-15 yrs, its became more and more liberal, because all the Mass people messed up there state so now they have high taxes, strict gun control, etc. so they all move to NH, and instead of learning that what they did before in Mass didnt work out, they still vote EXACTLY THE SAME. Some people truly are stupid! Now theirs a democratic majority in the NH house, so its starting to go down hill. I hope it changes soon, but its not looking so great

Luke

Luke · 12-30-2007, 09:49 PM

sorry ponycar i dont know how i came up with pony-cart, I wasn't trying to be rude/offensive

luke

tuckerd1 · 12-31-2007, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by glocknut

I will never, ever vote for Giuliani.... Period. Not even in the general election....

mike
gn

DITTO! Its Huckabee for me.

ponycar17 · 12-31-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

sorry ponycar i dont know how i came up with pony-cart, I wasn't trying to be rude/offensive

luke

No offense taken...

I just find it sooooo hard to believe that Democrats have such a hold on the Union states.

I know it's not a popular topic, but the Unions really have people fooled as to what it takes to keep a job, and the Democrats are capitalizing on that mentality. If not for the Labor Unions, the Democrat party would be ENTIRELY different, and there would be no modern liberal as we have today. Let's face it, not even the Democrat voters typically agree with all the BS the front-runner Dems believe. It's someone else TELLING them who to vote for...

Let's take a look at something...

A map of Right to Work States vs. Non-Right to Work States. For those not aware of this, Right to Work discourages Unions from forming because true employment CONTRACTS don't necessarily exist. There are Labor Unions in Some Right to Work states, but it's not the rule...

Now, 2004 Presidential results...

Interesting, huh?... Not to get TOO far off subject... Well, maybe...

Labor Unions have as much control over the lower middle-class vote in the Union states as the NAACP has over their constituents nationwide... That's some scary stuff...

dcd_enterprises · 12-31-2007, 05:13 PM

Something I found neat, and interesting to go along with your maps there, pony car

dcd_enterprises · 12-31-2007, 05:15 PM

Man...that loaded huge...I have no idea how to make it smaller, either.

dcd_enterprises · 12-31-2007, 05:17 PM

Here is the County by county map from the last presidential race... I hope this next one looks as good...

ponycar17 · 12-31-2007, 07:30 PM

That map through the years is awesome. I'm saving that one! Thanks DCD!

I'm aware of the one from the last presidential election by county. What it shows is that metropolitan areas vote Democrat, and there's a larger population density in those locations... Depressing... It kind of goes along with this article...

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=30392

Marlin T · 12-31-2007, 09:39 PM

DCD, that is awsome!!!! You get the gold star for the day.

Along with sad to boot. Just think, 10% of CA controlls the rest. Same with OR but with a smaller number.

12-23-2007, 03:17 PM	#1
Luke V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 105	saw Rudy Giuliani today Rudy Giuliani came to Beantown coffee today in Hampstead, NH. I went to see him and he talked about his 12 goals and we also were able to ask him questions. My number one choice would have to be Duncan Hunter, followed by Thompson and for third a tie between Giuliani/Romny. Realisitically, Hunter and Thompson probably wont win, so I would have to go ahead and Vote for Giuliani. Whats your opinion on him? how do you think he'll do in regards for us gun-totin loonies? Luke -->

12-23-2007, 03:26 PM	#2
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today He will take them all away if he can don't trust that man __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

12-23-2007, 03:32 PM	#3
Willie Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Galveston,TX Contributor Posts: 1,002	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today I understand New York has very restrictive gun laws and the City has even more gun laws. I am not sure you can even permit or carry in N.Y.C. Does anyone know for sure? I think the NRA rates Guilani very badly too.I don't have a better answer yet but I would question Rudy's 3 or is it 4 divorces as to his judgement and character. __________________ Willie West End Electric Galveston Electricians

12-23-2007, 04:50 PM	#5
catfish83861 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Idaho Posts: 2,019	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today Close to an Edwards with a "R" behind his name in my opinion, for what thats worth. catfish __________________ 'Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid.' - David Hackworth

12-23-2007, 05:43 PM	#6
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today Here Luke, you have to make your mind but look at this before you do. Attached Images __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

12-23-2007, 08:11 PM	#7
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today Couldn't get a clean shot, huh? We'll see how long it takes before I get a knocked down door, heheheheee) __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God. Last edited by berto64; 12-23-2007 at 08:14 PM.. Reason: bad spelling

12-23-2007, 10:12 PM	#9
ThunderStick300MAG V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wallburg, NC Posts: 177	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today Ron Paul 08!!!! He's very constitutional. The way he votes on items is strictly based on what's already Constitutional Law, so I think that since the 2nd Amendment is already in place we should be much good to go on that issue... __________________ There is a WORLD of difference in seeing the round hit a paper target and one that changes the targets expression.

12-23-2007, 11:39 PM	#10
glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today I will never, ever vote for Giuliani.... Period. Not even in the general election.... mike gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone....

12-24-2007, 01:58 AM	#11
noslolo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Johnstown PA Posts: 1,558	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today Go Ron Paul!! __________________ I'm a heck of a "obesito illegitimo"

12-24-2007, 04:56 AM	#12
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today Ron Paul, wasn't that the guy that was hanging out with aliens? __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

12-24-2007, 09:36 AM	#13
troutwest66 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Post Falls, Idaho Posts: 286	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today I'm going with Huckabee at his point. I've seen him on the Outdoor Channel and I visited his and Paul's websites. I get a better feeiling with Huck'. __________________ Mel Westlake- NRA Life Member and Flyfisher Guns are like tools, you can never have too many and you need the right one for the job!

12-24-2007, 10:25 AM	#14
Luke V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 105	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today well then looks like im going to have to re-think my selection!! what I am trying to say though is that I think he, or maby Romny, is the only one that could beat Hillary. I would much rather Giuliani than another round of Clinton. I think the candidates like Huckabee, Hunter, Thompson, etc. are too normal for the lefties, so they wouldn't have much of a chance up againtsed Hillary. Edwards, yes, but Hillary or maby Obama, no. thanks for all your response, Luke

12-24-2007, 02:39 PM	#15
troutwest66 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Post Falls, Idaho Posts: 286	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today I think anyone less than someone normal is too much of a compromise and there is no compromise on the 2nd. I felt Gore was almost a shoe-in, too, and look what happened. Gun owners had to be a large part of it. __________________ Mel Westlake- NRA Life Member and Flyfisher Guns are like tools, you can never have too many and you need the right one for the job!

12-30-2007, 09:47 PM	#17
Luke V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 105	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today haha i guess so pony-cart. Around here in southern NH and nothern mass, it seems that theres about 60 to 65% democrats, mostly supporting Hillary, and the rest Republicans and indi's split mainly between Guliani and McCain. I wish it was more like the rest of the country around here!! NH use to be pretty conservative but over the last 10-15 yrs, its became more and more liberal, because all the Mass people messed up there state so now they have high taxes, strict gun control, etc. so they all move to NH, and instead of learning that what they did before in Mass didnt work out, they still vote EXACTLY THE SAME. Some people truly are stupid! Now theirs a democratic majority in the NH house, so its starting to go down hill. I hope it changes soon, but its not looking so great Luke

12-30-2007, 09:49 PM	#18
Luke V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 105	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today sorry ponycar i dont know how i came up with pony-cart, I wasn't trying to be rude/offensive luke

12-31-2007, 05:13 PM	#21
dcd_enterprises Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wheatland, Iowa Posts: 1,313	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today Something I found neat, and interesting to go along with your maps there, pony car __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, National Guard or Reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand that - Author unknown

12-31-2007, 05:15 PM	#22
dcd_enterprises Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wheatland, Iowa Posts: 1,313	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today Man...that loaded huge...I have no idea how to make it smaller, either. __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, National Guard or Reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand that - Author unknown

12-31-2007, 05:17 PM	#23
dcd_enterprises Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wheatland, Iowa Posts: 1,313	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today Here is the County by county map from the last presidential race... I hope this next one looks as good... Attached Images __________________ A veteran - whether active duty, retired, National Guard or Reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America" for an amount of "up to and including my life." That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand that - Author unknown

12-31-2007, 07:30 PM	#24
ponycar17 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Carolina Contributor Posts: 4,884	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today That map through the years is awesome. I'm saving that one! Thanks DCD! I'm aware of the one from the last presidential election by county. What it shows is that metropolitan areas vote Democrat, and there's a larger population density in those locations... Depressing... It kind of goes along with this article... http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=30392

12-31-2007, 09:39 PM	#25
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: saw Rudy Giuliani today DCD, that is awsome!!!! You get the gold star for the day. Along with sad to boot. Just think, 10% of CA controlls the rest. Same with OR but with a smaller number. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<