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Old 01-13-2008, 11:03 AM   #1
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Got a question you guys can answer I am sure. Having not hunted nor done any serious shooting besides pellet for annoying birds in the yard , for several years, my eyes have changed. I now wear glasses.. Trifocals, fine print reading, TV watching and dashboard reading and slight correction for far distance driving..

How badly are these glasses going to effect my hand gun shooting? Any thoughts about having shooting glasses made or just learn to aim hand gun with what I got? or should I get a laser site for the new handgun? and can you use the laser sight to take the Texas hand gun licensing course?

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Old 01-13-2008, 11:13 AM   #2
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Many of us old farts here wear glasses, Tex. They needn't affect your handgun shooting adversely, though shooting with them may take a bit of getting used to. Personally, I wouldn't bother with special glasses for shooting unless you intend to engage in the competition sports. I would suggest you get yourself a few boxes of ammo, go out to the range, and practice with the glasses on. That way you can get a good feel for how the glasses affect your shooting and teach yourself to compensate if that is needed. Just my thoughts, based on experience.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:14 PM   #3
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Texman, I would at least recommend polycarb/safety lens material. They can be as thin as 2.0 mm (legally with safety stamp) but you would have to have safety frame to go with them. Now days they make nice, in-style safety frames that could be worn all the time. With the safety type glasses you won't have to change into another pair of glasses for shooting. At my range for instance, they will supply safety glasses for shooting but of course not RX. You might not shoot as well without your Rx glasses. If you need more explanation let me know. My wife is a GM at a optical lab. She makes all of my glasses.
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:54 PM   #4
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Texman, I would at least recommend polycarb/safety lens material. .
Thanks for the advice guys, and my lenses are already polycarb lens. With all the outdoor and other work, I used to do,, I insisted on them... So, I am good..
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Old 01-13-2008, 03:56 PM   #5
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Texman,
Everyone's situation is different in you dilimma.....and most of us are there and the rest are 'on deck'...... I'd follow PS's advice and try it on.....then hunt up an optician that hunts/shoots. They have first hand acquaintence with your issues.

FWIW, Ive used contacts to address my myopia (near sightedness) for three plus decades. But in the last I've needed those cheap 'cheaters' you get at the dollar store to work up close. I've found ghost rings, apature, (peep), and 'scout sights' work better for me. I suspect y'all will find the greatest difficulty in low light situations, so anything you do to enhance sight contrast is a boon ! I've been know to drill and dot my front, and sometimes rear, sights with white paint, BTW.....

I suggest you do some research on the net and local library on how the human eye works - and ages. Its enlightening - and will be a major boon when you next visit your eye doctor, too. >MW
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Old 01-13-2008, 07:43 PM   #6
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I shoot wearing glasses, I should have bifocals but, refuse to wear 'em as I look up 90% of the time when I'm in close on something because of the nature of the work I do. I've not even thought about shooting glasses or safety lens though. I guess it'll be a investment I'll have to make.

I do know I couldn't hit a barn with a shotgun from the inside without the glasses.
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Old 01-13-2008, 09:14 PM   #7
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I got some great plastic lenses, prescription, that work great for shooting. They're impact resistant (though not polycarbonate), photochromatic, tinted sort of an amber color (reduces glare and sharpens vision by reducing blue light component) and polarized. About the same price as similar plastic lenses. The trade name is "drivewear" and they're sold as prescription sunglasses especially designed for driving (they work great for that, too).
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Old 01-14-2008, 06:18 AM   #8
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Devices like the Merrit sighting aid and others similar devices that clip to your shooting glasses can solve all your shooting problems related to vision that needs correction.

When we are young our eyes shift focus so fast and over huge distances that we do not recognise that the target, the front sight, and the rear sight are never in focus at the same instant. The eye just scans back and forth between the three, giving us the impression that all is in focus at all times. But as we age we lose both the speed of focus change and the range over which we can focus and then need correction lens to concentrate the focus on the range we can no longer reach. That results in one or two or the three (target and front and rear sights) being out of focus. We are told to focus on the front sight and not worry that all else is out of focus. That sounds easy but the accuracy of sighting may suffer.

If you view objects through a pin hole you notice that all things at all distances seem to be of equal sharpness. The clip on Merrit Sighting device and other like it work on that principal. With those devices all three (target and front and rear sights) seem equally sharp (but dimmer). It gives older eyes a new outlook on sighting a gun! While dimmer, it works fine in the lighting of an indoor range and fine outdoors as well. A Google search will locate a source but Brownells has one or two as does Champion Shooters Supply.

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Old 01-14-2008, 09:42 AM   #9
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I have worn glasses for thirty years and have never had any problem shooting other than once while using a scope with a very short eye relief. I solved that problem by getting rid of the less expensive, scope and replacing it with a good quality Burris having plenty of eye relief that seems to be almost tuned to my eyes.

This includes all types weapons - Rifle, shotgun, pistols or revolvers.
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Old 10-20-2010, 07:43 PM   #10
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I'd like to rehash this thread, as I find vision to be of great importance in our sport. I'm wondering how everyone's vision concerns have resolved, and if the pinhole technique LDBennet suggested, or if replacing scopes like Marlin mentions has been working. I'm a seasoned shooter with bad eyesight myself, and have a few tips of people are still interested. I would love to hear more about the solutions other older shooters have found, as well.

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Old 10-20-2010, 08:01 PM   #11
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Glad to know , i'm told just recently i need glasses for reading and fine /close in work

no worries about shooting yet , but told it will happen

nice to know it wont all go to hell and i'll still eat well in the future

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Old 10-21-2010, 08:26 AM   #12
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Thanks for the original as well as the rehash thread. I am supposed to wear bifocals but don't. I shoot iron sights, they continue to get fuzzier. Looks like I better get serious as I do shoot competition, iron sights only.
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Old 10-21-2010, 03:17 PM   #13
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You just need to be able to focus on the front sight. The rest is relatively unimportant.
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Old 10-21-2010, 04:38 PM   #14
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You just need to be able to focus on the front sight. The rest is relatively unimportant.
Exactly so, and my tri-progressives don't work as well for that as I would like. You have to find the right sweet spot in the lenses to focus the front sight. It's easy to get your eye quack to write a scrip for single focus lenses that will make life easy as long as you don't have to do something else with the same glasses on. (A possible advantage could be that you might not be able to focus on the bullseye, so won't try.)
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:27 AM   #15
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I have been wearing trifocals for about 5 years and I am starting to have a problem seeing the front sight. I have tried lifting my glasses up with my left hand, I have tried holding my head back, I have tried focusing on the bullseye, I have tried everything and find that nothing seems to help. I am getting ready to go back to bifocals in a few weeks anyway so maybe that will help.
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My eyesight has been going south for some time (years) and bifocals is going to be a must. Ive worn glasses most of my adult life and at work instead of "having" to wear safety glasses, prescription plastic lenses workes great and with shooting as well.
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My eyes are fairly good at a distance, it's up close that is hard for me to see. I have never tried my glasses for shooting. Although it might help. Guess I need to try that sometime.
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:28 AM   #18
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Prescription glasses are made for normal sighting distances: far... infinity; close-up...12 to 18 inches; extra trifocal area.... 10 feet or so. None match the requirement of a pistol shooter. Sometimes you can get drug store reading glasses that will focus at handgun front sight distance..... 30 inches or there abouts or some compromise distance that will allow a less fuzzy target image as well as a little less sharp front sight image.

The clip on lens adapters Olympic shooter use give you several different lens powers to achieve a compromise focus. Clip on apertures increases your eyes depth of focus at the price of a slightly dimmer view but work best of all. They work at indoor ranges and outside too. There are several on the market.

For pistol plinking I just use my progressive focus regular glasses. There is a spot in their field of view that gives the best compromise focus of both the front sight and the target. You have to move your head around a bit to find that point but the more you wear progressives the less you have to think about what to do to get a sharp image of anything. But I use the aperture clipped to distance area of my bi-focals to shoot accurately with both pistols and rifles with open sights.

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I have been nearsighted for 3/4 of my life, but may need bifocals by next spring according to my eye doc. She says it's a fairly common 40th birthday present, ugh. I will consider getting a pair of glasses just for shooting, if I can fine-tune them to my needs, that's a good tip.
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Old 10-22-2010, 10:31 AM   #22
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As I and others have stated here progressive lenses work for shooting and every day use. You just have to learn how to tilt your head to make the front sight in focus. Regular everyday use teaches you that skill and you only have to remember to concentrate on the front sight to use them for shooting.

In a defense situation I would be willing to bet that the adrenalin would not let you use the sights accurately no matter what sighting aids you might be using. COP's involved in shootouts randomly hit their targets and usually can not even remember how many shots they took.

I think that progressive lenses in your regular wear glass are the best compromise for pistol shooters for both in-prompt-to shooting sessions and defense. Personally, I shoot quite well with mine and only go to other sighting aids when absolute precision is required. "Can" shooting with the grand kids is always done with my regular wear progressives and I don't miss many cans.

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When i first started to need glasses, i went to the doc and told him that I shoot both rifle and pistol, but with different hands. He let me brng in a rifle and a pistol and we sat down to find out where my "aiming line" was for each. He stood infront of me as I aimed each gun and looked down the sights to find the spot on my (dummy) glasses that matched the front and rear sight. Then he put a little black mark on the lens at that spot. Then he measured the distance from the eye to the front sight.

Later, he did his usual handwaving and bright lights on my eyes and figured out what enhancement I needed. From the earlier measurments with the guns, he knew what power to make that particular spot on the lens. It worked. I've used progressives ever since.

I did have to do a little special when I got my first Hawken, as the iron sights were way up in the corner of the lens. I got a pair of the stick-on bi-focal lenses intended for sunglasses and cut a dot to stick on the eyeglass lens at the right spot.

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Old 11-02-2010, 04:18 PM   #24
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Glad to hear I'm not the only one out there looking for solutions to my vision problems.

After speaking to my doctor I realized it become more difficult to focus on both your sites and your target is because by a very common condition called presbyopia.
Now I work for a company called Superfocus who produce glasses for shooters who need this extra help seeing at the range. They are biomimetic, adjustable-focus glasses, which means that you only need 1 pair of glasses for everything. You can see both the front sight post and the target clearly when you adjust them to your "sweet spot", and then readjust on your drive home, or when on the computer.

Check them out for yourself. We have a Shooter's Challenge where you can try them out while shooting, risk free.

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I'm totally with the shooting glasses advice that Pops gave. A friend of mine who shoots NRA high power was having some fairly serious age and stage related fuzzy sight vs. fuzzy target vision issues. He was trying to shoot with his normal trifocals and it was not even working correctly. His scores were tanking. As luck would have it, he found a optician that also shoots competitively while he was competing at Camp Perry. He went through the very same type of precise measurement routine that Pops did and ended up with a fully rigged out set of shooting glasses. Once you get over the somewhat strange looks and expense of some of the serious custom shooting glasses with special little vision enhancement doohickeys on them, they are pretty slick and they really work. His shooting scores increased accordingly. It helps greatly if you get your shooting glasses from an optician that is very familiar with the diverse corrected vision needs required of the various shooting disciplines.
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